These threads are so fucking worthless. Some kid asks what he should get without providing us any important information such as skiing style, weight, ability, terrain preference, geographical locale. Then in come the hounds, going back and forth, with usually misguided understandings and stupid opinions of construction, skiability, specs. It is so retarded. Why the hell should anyone believe anybody else's opinion when again, they are much too vague. 'Oh, I have the Salomon's they are sick.' 'I have the PEs, and they are super sick.' 'No, my Salomon's are for sure way sick..on eveything too.' 'My PE's are ultra sick on everything.' How does anyone know that you can even ski and that your opinion is worth anything at all? Carry on, I know that made no difference.