ok let one wigged out experience ruin it for you. try talking to them as a company. talk to campbell. or keep drinking your NS produced hateraid on ninthward. im like captain j crew/ classy ns/ lacoste, white bread indiana kid, so its not their image that attracts me obviously. its their company, which ive delt with, and their products. their well produced products. because vick flipped off the fans, will i not watch the atlanta falcons? no. letting their image/riders/whatever deter you isnt wise. they are a great company that deserves way more recognition than they are given because of the teen/pre-teen bandwagon jumpers and fill this site with threads about how they hate 9th. i like you, im not saying you are stupid or inferior, but really im just stating my opinion on 9th, and recommend you look past some of their less desirable characteristics and see what they do offer. give them a chance. they are the ugly puppy at the kennel, but you know that that little guy is really the best pick. (ok, close to the best pic)