1% CEO runs train on Occupiers

i agree with most of your post but...

regarding your statement about the 6 cars. how else would he spend the money to benefit the economy? he buys 6 cars. the car company has to pay wages to X number of employees to manufacture cars + plus wages of sales force and the engineers who created the cars. if he didn't buy the cars there wouldn't be as large a demand for the product and there would be less manufacturing jobs resulting in higher unemployment and more citizens without money.

Very few "1%" just sit on cash. they invest it in businesses which then grow and hire more people paying out more wages. Not to mention that many 1% understand that they have more money than they need and do support charities and even create there own. eg, under the same sun, Vancouvers vivian house, YWAM's home for hope is supported by those i would classify as the 1%.

Biggest misconception from the 99% is that greed is totally bad. Greed is an incentive for people to work harder and make more money (would you work hard if you knew the GOV would take a significant portion of it? Same goes for 99% they aren't working because they dont feel they make enough money). greed is also our biggest enemy because most people demand low prices and high wages.

using the CEO's example most people want ipods (lol at 99% filming interview with ipad). and we want them cheap. however due to unions and labour laws, labour costs in the USA are expensive (unionized labour). so we can either pay out big wages and sell expensive products, or move manufacturing somewhere cheaper and provide the ipods at a price everyone wants, at the expense of those looking for jobs.

Theres also the case with online businesses. Online businesses are not confined to geographic locations which means that they will move there HQ's to places with lower tax rates such a Malta removing potential tax revenue from USA or Canada (wherever your from). not only that but the wages will also be paid offshore because the cost of paying larger wages is offset by a lower tax rate.

so from my perspective a potential solution (i understand its easier said then done) is to reduce spending on military and other nonessential services (in canada i would say remove therapeutical massages ,among other things, from medicare) and lower profit taxes to make our country more globally competitive. Thus generating a greater foreign revenue and creating more local jobs.

Im not saying either side is 100% correct. there are some things that need to change. But there are plenty of things that the 99%'rs are arguing against that are helpful to them.

this is no way a comprehensive argument for the 1%'rs but i do think it breaks down a few of their arguments.

For the record i am in favour of welfare programs and help programs for the genuinely needy but i do have an issue with people slamming the 1% and then asking for handouts, seeing how thats where the money comes from.

 
Why does the average person support and feel more connected to the 1% than those who are of the same social class as them? Is it an issue of social alienation? Do they feel that in aligning with the ideologies of the super successful that it will account for their failings? Obviously this guy has vested interests in seeing no change in the economic structure of the US, but why do you people feel that way? It clearly is not working, and while the "99%" have done lots to alienate themselves from the population insofar as questioning the status quo which has been beaten into your minds your entire lives, why do you support a system that is, more and more, clearly being exposed as one that aims to exploit the general population in order to satisfy the over inflated needs of an overwhelmingly small minority?

I know words like "class" and "exploitation" automatically make people who cannot think critically cringe, however these are reasonable questions. While the American political system has done an excellent group at polarizing hundreds of millions of people based on two ideologies that in themselves encompass many different ideologies, this should be a bipartisan issue. It is sad that the population feels the need to address major issues under the comfort of their political ideologies, toeing a line they have no obligation to, even when the issue at hand certainly demands more.
 
maybe because people will argue for reasons they believe in and not just blindly follow the arguments of their "social class"

and the CEO in the vid is advocating change....
 
on an unrelated note anyone notice that in the video posted above at 1:48 the woman calls Obama the "leader of the free world". inflated ego much USA
 
Simply put, I value logic and reason above all else. I put it above other people's feelings, my class, my country, anything. To do so otherwise is purely idiotic, in my opinion.

And did you not watch the entire video? He states repeatedly that he agrees that people should protest and that things should change. His primary argument is that people are so grossly misinformed about basic U.S. economics that they actually think Wall Street is the cause of the problem.
 
i've seen it before. i didn't realise that in a emotionally charged argument it became a synonymous fallback term for president. Just found it interesting...

I wonder if they know how stupid they sound claiming that.
 
Your right the cars thing was pretty weak. But then again where are most luxury cars made?

I think the only way we will save our country is to produce more and spend less, Seems really obvious but shit, what do we make? I watched a short video where they took everything out of a house that wasn't made in America, the house was empty.

The only thing USA produces is a lot of really fat people.
 
hey be easy. I could probably beat the shit out of you in real life, just sayin.

Im 5'9" 196 with 18% body fat and I hate when people call me names, it hurts my feelers, rude guy.
 
As if that were the case and not vice versa. As if people don't have the freedom to pursue more lucrative positions of employment that are available, as if salaries aren't dictated by the market and by how much each employee produces (at least in the private sector).
 
You live in north america, you have a world of opportunity at your finger tips and your complaining?

There are billions of people who would do ANYTHING to have the opportunities you have in life, and now look at you, I can't stand your type.
 
Ive seen you on tiny chat plenty of times. I serious don't doubt it at all. but if you would like to try me, my acl should be healed in a couple months. Take a trip to Utah, i'll be here.
 
Sooo...you're judging whether you could beat me up based on seeing my face in a chatroom? LOL. Easy there, tiger.
 
na there was one time you and a bunch of other homos were chatting with you shirts off for some fucking reason.

But you can hide behind your keyboard, drunk, being a dick to every kid on here your whole life if you want and nothing will ever happen. Come say some of the shit you say on this site to me in person.
 
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Well for starters you have a roof over your head every night, food on your plate everyday, (many kids don't even get that) and you had/have the opportunity to go to school for 12 years for free. You live an extremely priveleged live and the fact that you take it all for granted is downright shameful.

You better not ignore this post.
 
DUDE, who the hell said I take anything for granted? I think you misread my post a lil.

Don't you think if I came from the bottom I would be extremely appreciative of everything?

where were you born? who raised you? where do you live? how much money does your family make?

There were a few times in my life that if I didn't have loving and caring grandparents, me and my mom would have been on the streets.

I am greatful for everything.

You better not ignore this post.
 
I said you were very priveleged, you said show me examples, so i showed you some examples. If you must know my family is an upper-class family that is well off, my dad owns a roofing business that does quite well, he worked very hard to get there. I live in Canada and I try to be as grateful as possible for everything I have been blessed with, and I try to make the most of the amazing opportunities in life I have been given.

"Don't you think if I came from the bottom I would be extremely appreciative of everything?"

Sure coming from the bottom up would make you appreciative of everything you have but in my case I'm not an idiot, I realize that I have lived a very priveleged life since day and am thankful for that, and thats something you should think about too.

I don't care if you had to live at your grandparents house once upon a time, you are still better off than 99% of the rest of the world.
 
and your posts have made it perfectly clear that you are not as grateful as you should be I might add.
 
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