1% CEO runs train on Occupiers

you know the average HOUSEHOLD with a family in america is about $61,000? how can you say that everyone single person can earn six figures?

Besides it's not all about the money you make from a job. There are numerous jobs that well respected and help people lead fulfilling lives. These people are angry because they can't find jobs they like.
 
Oh, don't mind me. I'm just trolling the night away. Of course I don't believe that everyone in the United States can make a 6 figure salary haha.
 
where I come from pro is anyone trying to make themselves seem better than they actually are. I.E. Orange name that means nothing.
 
I figured you would be confused, Small brains have a hard time understanding such far out logic. Same shit happens when I talk about my dinosaur/bird theory.

 
I have no idea what you're trying to say, but you seem to be enjoying the drugs you've clearly taken, sooo I'm gonna go...and you can...keep on doing whatever it is you're doing, k? Adios.
 
This. But there A LOT of stupid people on both sides of this issue.. They make me too frustrated to want to even listen to anything about Occupy.
 
they aren't overworking and underpaying so they can reap from the benefits. they have to produce to meet the low prices that we demand. you cant give benefit to a bunch of American workers with high wages and sell your product for a competitive price while keeping your business afloat.
 
You really think that all of the people in this movement are there just to raise public awareness about the distribution of money in America? That might be your reason, but the people in that video wanted money and jobs. I highly doubt that some of the lower class uneducated people in that video, including the select group of ass-wipes that were interviewed, only were there to raise public awareness. This is America, not a PTA meeting
 
The problem is that globalization has pushed the American market across oceans. The way to stimulate an economy is to keep demand high and prices low. The problem with prices being low when our goods are being produced indo-china, is that the money must be pushed back out to indo-china when it should be pushed back into our economy. The facts are that we are losing money faster than we can make it. The people want the 1% to put money in the protesters hands. Who's greedy now? A half assed movement with a bunch of hippie bullshit is not how you change a country. Sitting and fucking up traffic is bot how you change a country. Sleeping and shitting in a damn tent in the middle of the fucking park is not how you change a country. The way you do it is to find ways to get money into your own economy. Support local business. Buy from small companies. Keep the money where it is supposed to be. If that's too hard for you bitch ass motherfuckers to handle and you still want to feel like a hero. Pick your shit up and go sleep and shot and pee on capital hill. And when you do call me and I'll stand right fucking beside you. The 1% is the 1% because they have worked for they're money. They didnt set up camp and chant and make drum circles for two months and magically walk away 700,000,000 dollars richer.
 
A problem I see with his argument round 4:05ish... China, India, and the rest of SE asia hadn't perfected their sweat shop designs...

 
Hahahahahaha this is the best part of this whole thread, I came in to be entertained and bam. Right there. Golden wheelchair for you sir.

SYNECDOCHE.
 
You, my good friend, are wrong.

It is not my job to become educated about your "cause".. If you want people to be even slightly sympathetic to the Occupy Wall Street movement, the typical protester is doing you a huge disservice. I'm sure that the movement started with good intent, but the average pile o' shit hopped on the band wagon and now nobody cares. So don't say that the movement was a success, it wasn't. Every other nation in the world has just taken front seat to a splendid show that emphasizes how lazy, ungrateful, and uneducated the typical american is.

In regards to your school/job situation.. Congratulations. You work hard. So do I, but I'm not complaining about the wealth distribution. Many college students take on heavy student loans, but work hard to pay them off. I'm willing to have a slightly lower quality of life for a few years, paying off my debts rather than asking corporations to essentially subsidize my educational costs. But the cool thing is, since I've been working hard in high school the past three and a half years, private universities offered me scholarships that significantly lower my tuition. Look at that, my hard work benefiting me.

About the war comments earlier, stop. That's just stupid that you're going to try to argue that our government is corrupt and that it's no longer an institution of the people and blah, blah, blah. I challenge you to find a single nation of similar power that has a government without corruption. Obviously we would like a society that has strong morals, but that's not how things turned out. But don't try to tell me that we are entitled to a better government when we have privileges that we neglect, while there are so many more-deserving people living in third world countries.
 
I believe what he's saying is that hardly anyone in America applies themselves.And I can't say I disagree. Applying yourself isn't a one day or a couple month long change, it's how you live your life.. And I don't think that even 10% of Americans can honestly say they are hard workers that push themselves beyond their requirements/expectations/whatever.

Poverty sucks and bad things happen to good people, but that isn't always the case. Some people manage money poorly, others don't take advantage of public education. But that doesn't mean they should starve.. And for that reason, I kinda/sorta/maybe agree with your second point.
 
oh fuck off, i didnt even watch the video, simply listened to the one word without any context, and said a super similar word cause i misheard it. there's even a movie called synecdoche, new york that plays off that mistake, sheesh, there are way dumber posts in this thread for your dorky ass to jerk off to
 
1. That 18 minute clip is of him taking 3 hours out of his day to talk to these people in person. Theres a 1 1/2 hour clip of the whole scene on youtube (I have not watch it yet, but i assume he covers more points.) The purpose of him going down there is to show the public the engagement and arguments of both side of the protest (1% and 99%). I dont know where you got the idea that he is opposing the OWS movement, he is just opposing the fact that it should be addressed towards congress, not wallstreet.

2. It called double taxation. There is a 15% tax on capital gains that cannot be evaded through offshore accounts. Sure there are loopholes where you can defer them for a year, or link capital gain to a charitable trust to defer them even longer. But in the end once you cash in on your portfolio, you need to pay your cap gain tax.

Obviously the double taxation comes into play with his 35% income tax, which includes his income from capital gains.

You could almost argue Schiff is triple taxed in that his corporation is faced profit taxation, which may or may not affect his income, probably not though seeing how big his brokerage firm is.

Personally, I believe there need to be a cap on political party fundraising from corporations. There also needs to be more regulation dealing with the issue of moral hazard.
 
i just have 1 question -

Is it still possible for anyone to get rich if they are smart, work hard, have great people skills, and get a few lucky breaks? Yes? Well that sounds about how its always been.

If you are charismatic, intelligent, and have a strong work ethic, you WILL BE SUCCESSFUL in this country. the level of your success depends on a little luck, but success WILL come.

Sure it is easier for rich kids to become rich adults, but that is how life works. you play the cards you are dealt, you dont try and stop the entire poker game because you were dealt a 2-5 off suit, you either bluff, or quietly bide your time until an opportunity presents itself.

If you want to be succesful, then you must master 3 things (and this is how its been since the beginning of time):

Intelligence, People Skills, Work Ethic.

OWS people should be the change they want to see. instead they are sullying the very causes they wish to promote. No one in the general public knows what the hell they are fighting for. all they see are crunchy-as-fuck, angry, incoherent, dirty people who seem to be a giant, lazy nuisance.

Fools need to get there shit together, or shut the fuck up.

 
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THIS ENTIRE THREAD IS FILLED WITH STUPID ASS WIPES AND KIDS WHOS PARENTS OBVIOUSLY MAKE MORE MONEY THEN THEY NEED.

WOOO HOOO I JUST MADE 50 MILLION THIS YEAR, HMMM I GUESS I WILL GO BUY FOREIGN CARS AND FOREIGN LAND AND THE REST I WILL JUST LET SIT IN MY BANK ACCOUNT FOREVER SO THAT I CAN MAKE MORE MONEY THAT I DON'T NEED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I WISH ALL YOU LITTLE DOUCHERS THE BEST LUCK IN LIFE BECAUSE BY THE LOOKS OF THE LOGIC IN THIS THREAD YOU ARE ALL FUCKED, BIG TIME.

Come from the bottom and then tell me every body can make 6 figures.
 
great stat but like this rich guy in the video said... its not his fault its the governments fault, the government is failing you. all the regulations have pushed production out of this country leaving us with shitty paying jobs and not many of them. the problem is in the government not in the 1% businessmen. Yes, I agree that there are few like this guy in the video says at the top that are fucking shit up for everyone. But you must understand its not the whole 1%, this guy gives 50% of what he makes a year back in taxes... when is it going to be enough for people, should this guy just work for free??? no he shouldnt work for free. He is already working half for free making 50 cents on every dollar.. thats fucked up enough.
 
really really solid post.

So explain to us your idea of how to fix this or change things so everyone gets some money in their pocket. you are sitting here just like the occupy people, yelling stupid shit with no idea of how to fix things. pretty much you are just saying, HEEEYYY GUYZZZ IM SUPER JELLY THAT PEOPLES PARENTS ARE MAKING MORE MANY THAN MINE AND I DIDNT GET THE NEW SAGAZZZ THIS YEAR SO NOW IM SUPPER PISSY I JUST WANNTT IT ALL FOR FREEZ AND SO DOES MY PARENTS PLEASE GIVE ME FREE MOONIEESSS.

come up with a logical idea of how things could be better for everyone and I will take you out of the dumbass that just wants shit for free category.
 
while i don't necessary understand your plight, where you've come from, or what you've been through, i understand your anger. I don't agree with it, but i don't mean to offend you by any means with what i intend to say. i'm sure that you and your family have worked hard for everything you have and i truly respect that.

my family is by no means part of the 1%, we don't have a car newer than 2003, my parents both drive vehicles with no less than 120,000 miles on them, but we are certainly better off than most. my dad has worked for everything we have, and i intend to do the same. what bothers me the most about this movement, and society in general, are the people that put in nothing but expect everything in return. if i have worked my way to pulling $50mil a year, damn right i'm going to buy myself a ferrari and a big ass house. by no means do i need these things, but i've earned them. i put in the work, i don't feel compelled to share with those who went to $50k/yr universities to study english and are somehow astounded that they don't have a job. that was your choice, not mine. however, i will provide for those truly in need. the disabled, the elderly, veterans on the street, people who would jump at the chance for a minimum wage job and to provide for others. that's valiant and i will forever provide for those who do everything but can't seem to make ends meet.
 
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The overextended government us the problem. Let the system weed out the bad businesses. The only laws there should be in business are laws that prevent monopolies and scams.
 
Its not like people steal the money they have and thats why they are rich, they earned it and worked hard to get there, no one needs/should tell them what they should or should not do with it. Plenty of people have gone from nothing to multi millionaires, just takes work and dedication.
 
hes probably mad they just said no to the payroll tax cuts... which makes total sense, if they decided to go along with this it would add something like 100 billion to the deficit..
 
lolololol my parents work their asses off and we certainly dont have a bunch of money, if my dad were to lose his job wed be fucked, and occupy is still idiotic.
 
Oof, everyone in that video is ridiculous.

I'm frankly utterly disappointed in where OWS went. It could have been a real movement towards the undermining of capitalism and coercion-based hierarchy, but it's attracted masses of people that clearly don't have the drive to educate themselves on the very thing they're picketing for.

All the effort that has been put into this movement has been for nothing, largely because they failed to target the media as viciously as they should have. The 1% paid for the media to do its job: to turn public opinion of dissent sour. Had the original organizers, many of whom I spoke with, targeted the media, the movement would have gained the right momentum. The more shit like this video that you see of occupiers making fools of themselves, the more credibility is taken from the REAL movement.

None of it even matters, once economic collapse sets in, we're on auto-pilot to real autonomy. It starts with the individual, and these people don't seem to realize that.

A large segment of the anarchist community, myself included, is totally discontented with where this went. It sucks.
 
7 Step Program to Ruin Your Life

First, enroll in a college that you cannot afford, and rely on large student loans to make up the difference.



Second, spend the next four years having as good

a time as possible: hang out, hook up, and above all, take plenty of

“awesome” courses.



Third, find teachers and role models who will

encourage you to develop an attitude of enlightened contempt for

ordinary American middle class life, the world of business, and such

bourgeois virtues as self-reliance, thrift, accountability and

self-discipline. Specialize in sarcasm and snark.



Fourth, avoid all courses with tough

requirements, taking only the minimum required number of classes in

science, math and foreign languages.



Fifth, never think about acquiring marketable skills.



Sixth, when you graduate and discover that you

have to repay the loans and cannot get a job that pays enough to live

comfortably while servicing your debts, be surprised. Blame society.

Demand that the government or your parents or evil corporations bail

you out.



Seventh, expect anyone (except for other

clueless losers who’ve been as stupid and wasteful as you) to

sympathize with your plight, or to treat you with anything but an

infuriating mixture of sorrow, pity and contempt.

 
if they are the 99%, why aren't there 300+ million people marching around protesting with you. GTFO with this 99% shit and go back to your job already....oh wait you don't have one because you suck off the system which we all pay into.
 
Schenectady = city in New York

Synecdoche = a figure of speech in which a part is made to represent a whole, and vice versa.

He said "synecdoche," which makes perfect sense because he was discussing how the idiots Schiff was interviewing don't represent the whole movement.

On a side note, the argument that "a few idiots don't represent the whole" doesn't really apply here since essentially every person who thinks camping outside of Wall Street is going to change anything is stupid. Schiff is right; these people should be protesting the White House. Instead all they're doing is regurgitating slogans and blindly attacking innocent rich people with specious yelling.
 
Incredibly respectable, thank you. But I feel your missing the point. Im not going for some sob story. My parents made poor decisions earlier in life and because of that they are working a lot to get by.

I am not bagging on anyone who was able to make a lot of money. Chances are they used the knowledge they have and were successful by the decision they made. But sitting on a large sum of money is not going to benefit our economy.

The problem I see is greed. No one needs 6 cars. every dime spend on those cars could possibly benefit our economy, even in the smallest way.

I have no anger towards anyone, the problem is far to large to blame one person. That is my belief.

If you want to buy a ferrari, go for it. Put a lot of gas into it, buy some shoes for it and get it detailed as many times as you can. Use your money here. Thats all I ask.

The occupy movement has ALOT of problems I agree with everyone on that, but you cannot deny the fact that there is a major problem in our country at the moment and something needs to be done.

p.s. sorry if something doesn't make sense, just had surgery and my mind is pretty lazy.

 
This statement is so ignorant to me. Yeah there are A LOT of idiots at the movement but the fact is we need a movement. If you deny that you need to get learned.
 
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