Hey, so ive actually ridden these, soooooo first off whoever said that the ski was the big mountain charge tool should note that that is only the case in the 193 or whatever the longer length was. I have ridden the 186 and the 179 (basically a shorter version of the 186) and they are more of a tree and steeps ski. One of the more fun skis ive ever ridden, they are solid underfoot and in the tail but the rockered part in the tip is fairly soft, similar to the tip in the vct, maybe softer. they are super surfy with the moderate side-cut and hold carves very well with the solid tail that isnt a twin. That said, it isnt a twin, there is some tail rocker, so you could go off a stomped take-off switch but i didnt have the balls to hit a jump switch or land. the absence of a twin does help it in non-switch performance, as it wont release the carve until you want it to and you feel way more solid stomping landings. I think its a great tree ski for someone who skis variable conditions and isnt extremely held with the idea of switch riding.