Your rights with police...

ICary

ICary

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Long story short, just had a nice run in with the police...im not even sure if they are police. its the police run by my university, anyway. did everything they asked answered there questions, but being only a 20 year old i was scared it was my first run in with them and i didn't do anything apparently there was a mix up in my apartment and they thought our room had people in it who weren't signed in. So after answering the questions i pulled out my phone told the office i was calling my mom, showed him the screen so i could make sure i was in the clear, didn't even hold the phone to my ear held it sideways so he could always see it, and after about 2 rings, it was now apparent that i guess i wasn't allowed to make a call, the police then decided the only way this scared 20 year old kid was gonna hang up a phone call with his roommate was by pinning him against a wall, grabbing his wrist, and taking his phone. Now I'm not a police guy, i know maybe more then the normal person about my rights, but can someone enlighten me with these laws along these lines. Are you allowed to make a phone call while answering/answered the cops questions, mind you i told him and showed him. and is he allowed to touch(push, grab, and push) me for doing so. Like he never said no till like 3 rings it didn't make sense, he could have just been like no phone calls or can you hang up, not just go full linebacker stance and grab my wrist and phone, I'm a scared little college boy who's 20 and was playing freaking COD all night.
 
Dealing with police you start by asking yourself one question. Are you black or white? Then proceed from there.
 
Start talking about knowing your rights with to police..... if you want your ass beat.

Because that is how you get your ass beat!
 
it doesn't matter if you know your rights or not, the cop is going to do whatever the fuck he wants because of the little piece of metal he has pinned to his shirt, and 99% of the time they will get away with it. If you ever feel like your rights are being explicitly violated, like he's trying to search your car or bag request that he call in his supervisor. Most of the time they just stop what they're doing and leave... Best advise though, avoid police at all costs, even if you haven't done anything wrong
 
If they are real police officers, you are allowed to ask them for their personal information. If they refuse then put 2 and 2 together and tell them to leave you alone.
 
Update: met with one of the officers thats "up there" told him the story, he said I did everything correct and the officer had no right to touch me and what not. Have a follow up meeting sometime this week, to fill out some paper he said.
 
13666922:ICary said:
Update: met with one of the officers thats "up there" told him the story, he said I did everything correct and the officer had no right to touch me and what not. Have a follow up meeting sometime this week, to fill out some paper he said.
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Why the fuck were you calling your mommy? youre a 20 year old man. Start fucking acting like it.
 
13666928:californiagrown said:
Why the fuck were you calling your mommy? youre a 20 year old man. Start fucking acting like it.
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Yeah, OP. Interaction with your loved ones is a terrible idea. I'm sure they would hate to hear from you.
 
13666929:Point. said:
Yeah, OP. Interaction with your loved ones is a terrible idea. I'm sure they would hate to hear from you.
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You really think its a normal reaction for a 20 year old man to immediately call mommy when he thinks he may be in trouble? Fuck fighting your own battles and handling your own problems, just have mommy and daddy do it for you! I guess this here is neverneverland and OP sure doesnt want to grow up!
 
13666932:californiagrown said:
You really think its a normal reaction for a 20 year old man to immediately call mommy when he thinks he may be in trouble? Fuck fighting your own battles and handling your own problems, just have mommy and daddy do it for you! I guess this here is neverneverland and OP sure doesnt want to grow up!
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When you're corned by 3 cops, have answered everything and still keep getting questioned when you did nothing, the last thing you were doing was playing PS4 now your getting questioned i think a valid call to inform my mother what was going on wasn't un called for. Id want my child to be able to call me no matter what if he was flusterd and in a strange situation. Especially in Philly, there are daily shootings/stabbings and what not every freaking day.
 
13666932:californiagrown said:
You really think its a normal reaction for a 20 year old man to immediately call mommy when he thinks he may be in trouble? Fuck fighting your own battles and handling your own problems, just have mommy and daddy do it for you! I guess this here is neverneverland and OP sure doesnt want to grow up!
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Whats wrong with seeking help from your parents when you dont know what to do?

My assumption is he just didnt know what to do, sorry were not all big boys like you.
 
13666950:ICary said:
When you're corned by 3 cops, have answered everything and still keep getting questioned when you did nothing, the last thing you were doing was playing PS4 now your getting questioned i think a valid call to inform my mother what was going on wasn't un called for. Id want my child to be able to call me no matter what if he was flusterd and in a strange situation. Especially in Philly, there are daily shootings/stabbings and what not every freaking day.
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Jesus christ. you are the embodiment of the millennial generation- and i dont mean that in a nice way.

You are a grown ass man. Start acting like it. you shouldnt be relying on mommy to handle your problems- especially when you are currently in the problem LOL. You were hoping that mommy would get on the line and be able to convince the police that you are a nice gentle boy, huh?
 
13666958:Titus69 said:
Whats wrong with seeking help from your parents when you dont know what to do?

My assumption is he just didnt know what to do, sorry were not all big boys like you.
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Thats the issue. he is a big boy. He just doesnt want to act like a man, unless the moment suits him. he'd rather just have helicopter mommy come to his rescue.
 
13666963:californiagrown said:
Jesus christ. you are the embodiment of the millennial generation- and i dont mean that in a nice way.

You are a grown ass man. Start acting like it. you shouldnt be relying on mommy to handle your problems- especially when you are currently in the problem LOL. You were hoping that mommy would get on the line and be able to convince the police that you are a nice gentle boy, huh?
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I am a man, college student, job, pay for everything my self. But when your in a situation you have never even been in especially with the police its something new. I didn't call "mommy" to handle it. I called to inform her what the hell was going on, and ask advice. Sorry i don't have cop experience like you must clearly have, and clearly I don't have cop experience with an un lawful cop who decided that my phone call required me to be pushed, shoved, and grabbed. So put on my shoes, you'd just let a cop question the shit out of you corner you for no reason, you already did what they ask and that problem was solved. now they are just picking you. Your 20 year old self who has never had a run in with cops before would just sit there and take it. Or would you call, inform your parents, and ask for insight.

13666964:californiagrown said:
Thats the issue. he is a big boy. He just doesnt want to act like a man, unless the moment suits him. he'd rather just have helicopter mommy come to his rescue.
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13666969:ICary said:
I am a man, college student, job, pay for everything my self. But when your in a situation you have never even been in especially with the police its something new. I didn't call "mommy" to handle it. I called to inform her what the hell was going on, and ask advice. Sorry i don't have cop experience like you must clearly have, and clearly I don't have cop experience with an un lawful cop who decided that my phone call required me to be pushed, shoved, and grabbed. So put on my shoes, you'd just let a cop question the shit out of you corner you for no reason, you already did what they ask and that problem was solved. now they are just picking you. Your 20 year old self who has never had a run in with cops before would just sit there and take it. Or would you call, inform your parents, and ask for insight.
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good god. I certainly wouldnt think of calling my parents to the rescue during the police interaction.

you sound like the kind of cake-eater who would call mommy to handle a bouncer kicking you out of a bar, or to argue a proffessors unfair grade. Do you always call her when things are new and dont go your way?

You claim to be a man, but still choose to have your mommy fight your battles. Again, you are a caricature of the millennial generation. Its sickening.
 
13666974:californiagrown said:
good god. I certainly wouldnt think of calling my parents to the rescue during the police interaction.

you sound like the kind of cake-eater who would call mommy to handle a bouncer kicking you out of a bar, or to argue a proffessors unfair grade. Do you always call her when things are new and dont go your way?

You claim to be a man, but still choose to have your mommy fight your battles. Again, you are a caricature of the millennial generation. Its sickening.
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Did I say it was to the rescue, considering I'm hours and hours away from my parent she's clearly not just gonna pop up, like i said it was to inform and ask what to do. There is an entirely different option between new things and police interaction. You're supposed to be able to look up to police and know they have your back, but when you're getting treated poorly by them for no reason, and you clearly need input thats what I did. Clearly if the Corporal I met with after said I did everything correct and theres nothing wrong with me making a phone call and he understand completely where I'm coming from and he said his officer was in the wrong I'm gonna say i was ok and did the right thing. So thanks for your input, and time. Hope you enjoyed the chat.
 
13666980:ICary said:
Did I say it was to the rescue, considering I'm hours and hours away from my parent she's clearly not just gonna pop up, like i said it was to inform and ask what to do. There is an entirely different option between new things and police interaction. You're supposed to be able to look up to police and know they have your back, but when you're getting treated poorly by them for no reason, and you clearly need input thats what I did. Clearly if the Corporal I met with after said I did everything correct and theres nothing wrong with me making a phone call and he understand completely where I'm coming from and he said his officer was in the wrong I'm gonna say i was ok and did the right thing. So thanks for your input, and time. Hope you enjoyed the chat.
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Mommy to the rescue till your 45, right?

The officer over reaching and you making a legal phone call is one thing. You calling your mommy to the rescue so she could solve your problem is another.

Hopefully you grow up sooner the later, grow some pride, and learn how to handle your own business, instead of still having your mother handle it for you
 
The officer was out of line. File a report.

But what the fuck are you calling your mom for? Youre a big man. Handle it on your own. It's part of being an adult.
 
13666922:ICary said:
Update: met with one of the officers thats "up there" told him the story, he said I did everything correct and the officer had no right to touch me and what not. Have a follow up meeting sometime this week, to fill out some paper he said.
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Yo if the "up there" officer said that you did everything right, sue their asses
 
Idk why everyone is hating on him so hard. Really nothing wrong with calling your parents when you're 20.People are getting all up tight about nothing.
 
Idk why everyone is hating on him so hard. Really nothing wrong with calling your parents when you're 20.People are getting all up tight about nothing.
 
13666732:McNoche said:
Dealing with police you start by asking yourself one question. Are you black or white? Then proceed from there.
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fucking sick of this social justice warrior bullshit. Go be a pussy some where else
 
13666997:THEDIRTYBUBBLE said:
Also:

Don't let cops into your house without a warrant.

Always ask "Am I being detained"
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Sounds like he's in a dorm where this shit doesn't fly. Campus security doesn't show up to random houses/ apartment complexes
 
13667246:theabortionator said:
Idk why everyone is hating on him so hard. Really nothing wrong with calling your parents when you're 20.People are getting all up tight about nothing.
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Agreed all the way.

I'm 24, I like to think I know most of my rights, but if I ever find myself in a situation where I'm not 100% sure I would definitely think about giving my mom a ring, she is a court clerk and knows way more than I could ever wish to on the matters.
 
13667246:theabortionator said:
Idk why everyone is hating on him so hard. Really nothing wrong with calling your parents when you're 20.People are getting all up tight about nothing.
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13667414:AT-AT said:
Agreed all the way.

I'm 24, I like to think I know most of my rights, but if I ever find myself in a situation where I'm not 100% sure I would definitely think about giving my mom a ring, she is a court clerk and knows way more than I could ever wish to on the matters.
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Agreed. I think the weird part was calling in the middle of the situation. I'd definitely give them a shout after the cops are gone for some advice, but I'm not going to bust out my phone in the middle of a police interaction.
 
I hate hearing about this kind of shit. It pisses me off when people abuse their power. If it was me I would hire a lawyer, or at least talk to one. I believe there is somewhere you can report the officer(can't remember where it is you go to report though). See if you can get his badge number and file a formal complaint. If an officer gets too many they get fired.
 
13667617:Lé.Skiing said:
I hate hearing about this kind of shit. It pisses me off when people abuse their power. If it was me I would hire a lawyer, or at least talk to one. I believe there is somewhere you can report the officer(can't remember where it is you go to report though). See if you can get his badge number and file a formal complaint. If an officer gets too many they get fired.
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Did get his badge number, as well as i believe I am filling out a complaint this thursday, I have a meeting.
 
13667617:Lé.Skiing said:
I hate hearing about this kind of shit. It pisses me off when people abuse their power. If it was me I would hire a lawyer, or at least talk to one. I believe there is somewhere you can report the officer(can't remember where it is you go to report though). See if you can get his badge number and file a formal complaint. If an officer gets too many they get fired.
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LOL. Fired for complaints? Be would probably prove that OP had a weapon and it was justified. Maybe even get a promotion.

You have to at least kill somebody to even get honorably discharged.Or maybe if you piss off your fellow officers by being honest, not a douche, and standing up for peoples rights. You could probably do time for that.
 
That's what you get for posting like an idiot. Maybe use a period every once in a while and the cops won't treat you like shit. You brought it on yourself.
 
13667680:theabortionator said:
LOL. Fired for complaints? Be would probably prove that OP had a weapon and it was justified. Maybe even get a promotion.

You have to at least kill somebody to even get honorably discharged.Or maybe if you piss off your fellow officers by being honest, not a douche, and standing up for peoples rights. You could probably do time for that.
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Someone has a whole bunch of misplaced anger lol.
 
13667680:theabortionator said:
LOL. Fired for complaints? Be would probably prove that OP had a weapon and it was justified. Maybe even get a promotion.

You have to at least kill somebody to even get honorably discharged.Or maybe if you piss off your fellow officers by being honest, not a douche, and standing up for peoples rights. You could probably do time for that.
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I read something once where there was an officer that had more than 25 complaints from like 25 different people that were roughly the same complaint and the police officer was let go because of it. I don't remember where I read that before. I know cops get special treatment when it comes to breaking the law, but I read one thing one time that was put in place to prevent the police state that is slowly starting to happen more and more in the US.

I don't think this is exactly what I read before, but this looks close.

http://chicagojustice.org/blog/what-does-it-take-to-get-a-cop-fired

I think where I saw it was on the FB page "Policing the police" or "free thought project"
 
13666974:californiagrown said:
good god. I certainly wouldnt think of calling my parents to the rescue during the police interaction.

you sound like the kind of cake-eater who would call mommy to handle a bouncer kicking you out of a bar, or to argue a proffessors unfair grade. Do you always call her when things are new and dont go your way?

You claim to be a man, but still choose to have your mommy fight your battles. Again, you are a caricature of the millennial generation. Its sickening.
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Californiagrown votes Trump.
 
Sounds like you might definitely have legal recourse. I would guess the supervisor cop you talked to will try to get you to sign something waiving your right to sue, so don't sign that. For future reference, you can always ask if they are detaining you, and if they don't have cause to do so they have to say no and allow you to leave. If you don't ask this and they keep talking and you keep talking back then you are just in for whatever comes about. My law professor (also a judge and lawyer) told our class the other day if cops ever ask to search your property, just say "sorry officer, but I'm not in the habit of letting strangers look through my personal things." Doesn't tell them yes or no so you're not suspicious, while it refuses the search, while it lets them know that you are aware enough of your right to privacy that they won't get away with a bs or otherwise illegal search.
 
13668407:ReetsAdeets said:
Sounds like you might definitely have legal recourse. I would guess the supervisor cop you talked to will try to get you to sign something waiving your right to sue, so don't sign that. For future reference, you can always ask if they are detaining you, and if they don't have cause to do so they have to say no and allow you to leave. If you don't ask this and they keep talking and you keep talking back then you are just in for whatever comes about. My law professor (also a judge and lawyer) told our class the other day if cops ever ask to search your property, just say "sorry officer, but I'm not in the habit of letting strangers look through my personal things." Doesn't tell them yes or no so you're not suspicious, while it refuses the search, while it lets them know that you are aware enough of your right to privacy that they won't get away with a bs or otherwise illegal search.
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Nothing good will come of suing the real police
 
13668460:theabortionator said:
Nothing good will come of suing the real police
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Lol what damages will the guy be suing for? " the officer was rude to me and wouldn't let me call mommy!". Lol. If I was a judge I'd award him a lollipop and tell him to gtfo. Nothing happened to the guy.

By all means file a complaint, and make a stink about the officers illegal actions. But this country doesn't need any more BS lawsuits clogging up the court system.
 
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