what was ignorant about it? the first gen forresters are not that great when it comes to long term reliability. not bad, but no better than a jeep for sure. same with alot of subaru's from around that time. jeeps arent amazing either, but they are alot tougher, and can actually offroad like an suv should be able to. sorry i dont suck subaru dick like everyone else, but they are far from perfect.