Young cannabis smokers run risk of lower IQ (Article included)

i thought we already knew that you shouldnt smoke it while your brain is still developing? seems like common sense
 
so basically we should ALL smoke weed and adapt as a dumber, but much more peaceful and creatively thinking society
 
Exactly. I know successful people who smoke weed, as well as unsuccessful people who smoke weed. I also know successful people who don't, and unsuccessful people who don't. I'm not taking any sides on this, but it seems like the same thing going on here went on in the cigarettes thread; with the only supporters of it actually do it.
 
to the people saying they know people who smoked and are now doing well doesn't mean it didn't lower their iq, there is a lot more to do well then iq
 
Still it doesn't say how much they smoked, and what the average age was when they started smoking. I am also curious as to how they were able to control this study to adjust it so other substances played no roll.

There is a lot of crucial information missing in this article. I believe that there would be some negative effects from marijuana, as alcohol if it were to be abused buy children with undeveloped brains. It doesn't really surprise me. Would this decrease in IQ fuck over your life and cause you to be a broken down unsuccessful stoner? No, all the media is trying to do is stir up a pot of shit over a study, and they don't even have all the information on it.

FUCK THE MEDIA, AND FUCK THIS STUDY. I'M GOING TO STILL SMOKE MY FLOWERY BUDS, DO GOOD IN MY STUDIES AT SCHOOL, AND HAVE A SUCCESS FULL LIFE.

 
Dude you get so creative when stoned. My friends bong broke and we had all this resin chalked up in the down stem. We McGyvered his bong back together with resin and to this day it still holds together. We made a new multi purpose adhesive that is smoke friendly.

I was short on pancake mix and we wanted chocolate pancakes so I took a brownie mix. Put in a few shakes of flower and a dash of salt, baking powder and 2 eggs. It was super easy to make and tasted like heaven.
 
If you read the article you would have seen that even one of the guys says that he believes marijuana to be essentially harmless after the age of 18. NOWHERE does anyone involved in this study say that smoking weed is going to ruin your life. They simply are stating that they found a correlation between kids smoking starting while they were adolescents and a loss in a few IQ points. You need to chill out.
 
fun fact doctor suess was blazed practically all of the time. If the fing cat in the hat isn't creative i don't know what is
 
I know that. I am afraid how some of the media is going to use this and some people are going to think. "Oh no marijuana makes you dumber and not able to function normally." Not that some people already do know that. 8 points is kind of a lot though and I would really like to see when these guys started smoking cannabis and how much of it they consumed a day.

On a side note the legal herbal smoking age should then be 18 not 21 like most states are going for.

Interesting little video here.

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What sober person decides to make pancakes out of brownie mix? I definitely wouldn't have thought of the idea while sober. Weed was definitely the reason for the McGyvered bong. We used resin. If we hadn't smoked weed there would be no resin to fix the bong. BOOOOOOOOOOOM BAAANG BIIING.

Marijuana opens your mind to new ideas. You think differently so you see things in a little bit of a different perspective. In no way does it make you smarter, you are just more open to try new creative ideas, or think a little more outside of the box.
 
study is sketchy, way to many variables to take it seriously.

but i 100% agree you shouldnt smoke until at least 18, the later the better really, i deff. wouldnt have been ready for it.

there are all types of people, you'd be suprised how much mj doesnt effect some people, and how much it does others. I've seen a direct correlation between my dumbass friends always being dumb, and myself always getting A's, started smoking and continued to work hard and get good grades, i just have way more fucking fun when i'm not studying. ++ vibes to all, just enjoy life to your fullest the best way you can
 
Doing anything like smoking every day for what, 20 years, will definitely have negative consequences. I would like to know the consequences of smoking like once every two months.
 
Post Hoc fallacy. NEXT.

Although there is something to be said about developing hedonistic habits during highly developmental years of one's life, thereby making it more difficult to apply oneself later on.
 
This is news? Used to smoke a lot in college but not so much anymore. Weed definitely has its negative effects, this being one of them.
 
Obviously you're just not a creative person to begin with then. I've done that plenty of times completely sober
 
I completely agree, that it more than one study needs to be done for any level of conclusion to be reached. I also agree that it has a lot more to do with the person than just whether they smoked pot. However, that has little to do with the study. The study simply claims a decrease in IQ. There are certainly successful people who don't all have top level IQ's.
I interpret it as more about the level of success you set your self up to achieve. A successful person will be successful. However, a successful person who becomes addicted to marijuana and starts smoking everyday may very well still achieve their goals and reach a satisfying level of success, but the point is unless done with discipline and thought, the habit of smoking can easily become a hinderance that decreases your chances of succeeding at whatever it is you choose.
Person A smokes on weekend, or vacations, maybe a few times a week, when it is convenient and won't disturb other parts of his/her healthy, successful life. It can be positive to relieve stress, relax and enjoy. It may damage IQ, but is managed well so that is all it can damage. Ultimately it may be a positive.
Person B smokes everyday without discipline--before class, after class, when they wake up, whenever the urge comes. Smoking easily interferes with most aspects of their life and becomes a hinderance to success. Basically, smoking comes first and results in a spiral of poor judgement and vision.
This is generally from my experience. I basically went from person B to A. Im not saying that frequency that you smoke is the issue, just whether or not it is properly managed or whether a person allows it to interfere with their success.
 
my mom just emailed this study to me, and ugh.

this was my response to her "do not send my any more emails, especially ones that only quote a single study or don't reference a single source at all (she sent me something else as well). i could smoke cigarettes or drink daily like some people i know but i'm not retarded so i don't. i'm an adult, i'm physically healthier than 90%+ of the people in this country, this continent, and i'm not ignorant about what pot does to me. seriously."

on top of that, pretty sure everyone realized in the 90's that IQ is a fairly useless means of judging someone's intelligence.
 
Have you ever been stoned and put into tight situations? or made something while stoned? Well all I can say is marijuana makes me more creative. Maybe I'm not that creative, but the first thing that went into my head was brownie mix pancakes when we were out of mix. I may have though of that later but while I was baked I was way more open to experimenting with new things.

Let me shoot you this one. In my photography and film class I would smoke before I did my work. I would end up getting these different shots that I took against my teachers will. When I would explain what I was doing he thought that my work wouldn't be interesting. Then my teacher really enjoyed what I did so he just let me do my thing. It's being high that makes you look at your surroundings differently and opens your mind to experimentation.

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I love when stoners try to get all sophisticated and start calling it cannabis and marijuana like it makes them sound smarter.
 
dude she's your mom, don't be mean to her. My mom emails me stupid shit all the time, she probably just misses you.
 
The difference between "average" intelligence and mental retardation is only 30 points. Based simply on numbers, smoking weed makes you 27% more retarded than you would be otherwise, assuming you started at average intelligence, and losing 30 points of IQ would make you full retard.
 
Yeah well luckily I've got a few points to spare ;)

But shit 8 didn't sound like much, but 27% is a pretty fair reduction in intelligence.
 
Its not that we have a lower IQ. Its that we give less fucks about shit. People misinterpret stupidity and NUN FUX GVN.
 
Your IQ is supposed to be taken at a young age, it shows your ability to learn. Not really how smart you are just how smart you can be. Really your IQ wouldn't drop from smoking weed 10 years after you should have had your IQ checked. I had a 125 at age 10 and again at 19 after smoking weed for 5 years.
 
actually part of the paper says that those with a higher IQ are more likely to experiment with marijuana
 
But in this paper is experiment the same as light one up every day or is it more of a "sure I'll try it" and then smoke it only at parties or stuff like that?
 
Idiots who hate on stoners while using the word "dumber" in an attempt to sound witty are idiots who think alcohol is any better for you "because it's legal".
 
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