Oh, and I figured out why Obermeyer has never been on my list... their "highest quality" shit is only critically seam sealed, they don't report waterproofing/breathability, they just give a bunch of annoying buzzword bullshit that doesn't mean anything (Ooooooh, "Stormshield HP" fabric! That sounds like it'll hold back a fucking HURRICANE! I better get those), then they fail utterly to tell you anywhere on their website anything about what those meaningless tech-buzzwords MEAN.
All this says to me is, "what we're trying to market is so trashy and weak that we have to shroud and confuse the consumer with fancy, worthless terms and hope they don't notice our deficiencies."