Would you go vegan for skiing?

13954235:Profahoben_212 said:
I am literally 90% vegatarian due to the fact that it's cheaper.

It's not that hard to just not buy meat when you go to the store. But yeah I feel. I used to think it would be pretty hard.

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Thats sweet!! I had no idea
 
I don’t know a ton about climate change, but I’ve heard most of the problems are caused by big corporations, and so individual changes don’t make much of an impact, so I probably wouldn’t. That doesn’t mean we shouldn’t try to be better to the environment, though.
 
13955430:neonedge said:
I don’t know a ton about climate change, but I’ve heard most of the problems are caused by big corporations, and so individual changes don’t make much of an impact, so I probably wouldn’t. That doesn’t mean we shouldn’t try to be better to the environment, though.
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Of course, big corporations in this case being animal agriculture companies. By choosing not to change, you’re giving them your ‘vote’. The way I think of it is, just because there’s plenty of people who leave trash in the snow at ski resorts, doesn’t mean I should too.

Overall, it’s so much easier than you’d think. Once you’ve made it through the lifestyle change you’ll be back to your normal life, just healthier and better for the environment.
 
13955434:J_S said:
Of course, big corporations in this case being animal agriculture companies. By choosing not to change, you’re giving them your ‘vote’. The way I think of it is, just because there’s plenty of people who leave trash in the snow at ski resorts, doesn’t mean I should too.

Overall, it’s so much easier than you’d think. Once you’ve made it through the lifestyle change you’ll be back to your normal life, just healthier and better for the environment.
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That’s a great point, I definitely never litter or anything like that, and I recycle nearly everything, I just don’t know if I could make the switch to vegan. Respect to those who do though.
 
13955436:neonedge said:
That’s a great point, I definitely never litter or anything like that, and I recycle nearly everything, I just don’t know if I could make the switch to vegan. Respect to those who do though.
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Seems crazy until you start seeing what you can achieve within your own convinience. When I started this thread I was curious about it and also surprised that people didn’t roast this thread into oblivion. Since then I’ve given it a try and now I’ve been vegan over 6 months
 
13955669:Twinjibber77 said:
Solar > Listening to more vegans do nothing but have healthier diets than most people
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Pretty reductive infographic but if that's what it takes...

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13955884:JoeF2661 said:
You're good man, pigs and chickens dont produce methane like cows.
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Methane isn't the only concern, all three of those animals taken an incredibly large amount of resources to farm. If you have to eat meat, you can eat Chicken as it's the most efficient livestock to produce (assuming you dont give a shit about animal cruelty) in terms of calorie to resource ratio.

 
13956652:JoeF2661 said:
Cowspiracy.com is not a solid source. Might as well as use wikipedia.
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The website literally lists all of the scientific studies that back each of their claims throughout the film. And the infographic lists the sources at the bottom. Also, if you really care, go Google the claims against cowspiracy and then Google the refutations to those too. This stuff isn't simple by any means and infographics can be dismissively reductive.

However, I posted it in reply to a claim that veganism is doing nothing for the environment which is blatantly false.

This isn't some controversial point to make either. Industrial livestock production/factory farming has a direct, significant effect on climate change.
 
13957806:IsitWinterYet17 said:
Why don't vegans eat fish? I mean it's not like eating fish is bad for the earth. WWJD
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Overfishing is actually one of the worst things for the earth. The ocean's ph levels are way out of whack and unfortunately, it's too late to fix the damage that we've done to delicate aquatic ecosystems. Coral is dead and isn't coming back.
 
13957810:-eREKTion- said:
Overfishing is actually one of the worst things for the earth. The ocean's ph levels are way out of whack and unfortunately, it's too late to fix the damage that we've done to delicate aquatic ecosystems. Coral is dead and isn't coming back.
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You know coral is dead from acidification of the ocean due to rise in sea temperatures from global warming? Not fishing. Overfishing is a problem, but not for coral.
 
13957814:IsitWinterYet17 said:
You know coral is dead from acidification of the ocean due to rise in sea temperatures from global warming? Not fishing. Overfishing is a problem, but not for coral.
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I mean that's why I said that coral loss is due to the oceans fucked up ph levels. Overfishing is to blame for a lack of biodiversity which is destroying the ecology of natural reefs.
 
13957806:IsitWinterYet17 said:
Why don't vegans eat fish? I mean it's not like eating fish is bad for the earth. WWJD
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87% of fish stocks are fully or over-exploited.

Almost 4 tons of wild caught fish, are used to produce just a half a ton of shrimp.

33% of fish is coming from developing countries that are overexploiting the oceans – responsible for slave labor on fishing boats, taking fish from protected marine preserves, illegal fishing and over fishing, and a lack of fishing regulations.
 
If every American was vegan for ONE day a week, it would be the equivalent of taking 7.6 million cars off the road.

I do Meatless Mondays every week.
 
13958509:GrandThings said:
If every American was vegan for ONE day a week, it would be the equivalent of taking 7.6 million cars off the road.

I do Meatless Mondays every week.
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It's a cool sounding stat but if you think about it, that's 14.2% of my life to take 0.063% of the world's cars off the road. And that's only if the entire country does this. The USA is a drop in the bucket as we are only 4.3% of the population. No thanks. If the world decides they want to do something significantly effective to work on global warming like going vegan, I'll support, but not gonna drastically change my life for something that won't make a lick of difference.

There's plenty of days Americans including myself go meatless without even thinking. The vegan days are what doesn't happen; I enjoy dairy and eggs.
 
13958521:IsitWinterYet17 said:
It's a cool sounding stat but if you think about it, that's 14.2% of my life to take 0.063% of the world's cars off the road. And that's only if the entire country does this. The USA is a drop in the bucket as we are only 4.3% of the population. No thanks. If the world decides they want to do something significantly effective to work on global warming like going vegan, I'll support, but not gonna drastically change my life for something that won't make a lick of difference.

There's plenty of days Americans including myself go meatless without even thinking. The vegan days are what doesn't happen; I enjoy dairy and eggs.
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How is this 14.2% of your life spent any differently just because you’re eating a bean burrito instead of steak one? Just curious.

If you want to reduce your impact then stop placing the responsibility on ‘The entire country’. The truth is that animal agriculture is responsible for more greenhouse emissions then the entire transportation sector, and it’s one of the most efficient ways for you to reduce your carbon footprint. Nobody’s asking you to spend

30 grand on some solar panels or to ride a bike to work every day, just to try some new foods and be healthier overall.

I get it that going vegan seems seems like every meal is a new hassle, but the truth is that once your routine is established your day to day life will be unaffected. If you’re not interested then I don’t want to waste your time or mine, but if that’s all you got then I would definitely consider looking further into this.
 
13958538:J_S said:
How is this 14.2% of your life spent any differently just because you’re eating a bean burrito instead of steak one? Just curious.

If you want to reduce your impact then stop placing the responsibility on ‘The entire country’. The truth is that animal agriculture is responsible for more greenhouse emissions then the entire transportation sector, and it’s one of the most efficient ways for you to reduce your carbon footprint. Nobody’s asking you to spend

30 grand on some solar panels or to ride a bike to work every day, just to try some new foods and be healthier overall.

I get it that going vegan seems seems like every meal is a new hassle, but the truth is that once your routine is established your day to day life will be unaffected. If you’re not interested then I don’t want to waste your time or mine, but if that’s all you got then I would definitely consider looking further into this.
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Let's just agree to disagree. All I was saying is your cute quote about going vegan once a week won't do shit in terms of global impact unless everyone worldwide does it, or governments start making laws. Aside from that, it just makes a person feel like they're making a relevant impact. I like eating animals and their byproducts. It's pretty much a sure bet that everyone going vegan to save the earth will never happen unless people are forced to. Sure some folks will do it and it may help, but not in any significant sort of noticeable outcome unless vast majorities begin to do it- which will never happen. Let me repeat. This will never happen large scale without governments stepping in and telling people to do so. It may sound pessimistic but it's naive to think people will change without some major force.

I will respect your choice to be vegan and support your attempts to save the world but I ain't goin vegan.

Also in regards to your reference, consider the US impact on greenhouse gasses. Agriculture is our smallest source. Worldwide it's 3rd but in the US it's not . https://www.epa.gov/ghgemissions/sources-greenhouse-gas-emissions
 
13958627:IsitWinterYet17 said:
Let's just agree to disagree. All I was saying is your cute quote about going vegan once a week won't do shit ]
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That was my cute quote.

Vegan pussy also tastes better.
 
topic:J_S said:
I was thinking about this the other day because so many people have been going vegan. I figured you guys would have some interesting opinions.

So, with the issue of climate change threatening winter sports altogether, shouldn't it be noted that animal agriculture is one of the biggest causes of climate change? It seems like the simplest way to make an impact is the one that everyone ignores - eating less meat.
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The question you asked here was "would you go vegan for skiing", so imma just answer that one and kinda ignore whatever you wrote afterwards.

I would go vegan for skiing if it helped me with energy and shit, but other than that, I wouldn't really. It takes a lot of willpower, which I do have, but I wouldn't do it. Just seems like a waste of time.
 
There's a big spectrum to what people should and shouldn't eat and I think being vegan is ok but only only only if you do it right . Eating shitty food still and lots of substitutes is bad for you . I eat meat once or twice a week but other than that I eat mainly vegetables and it helps alot , id say you're missing out if you don't eat mainly vegetables.
 
13959495:Twinjibber77 said:
It's ok to eat fish, they don't have any feelings.
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Lol I shouldn't have said that. I'm well aware of how bad overfishing is.... And are you sure they have feelings? The fish this summer didn't say much when I cut it up for bait. Just kinda flopped there.
 
13963534:IsitWinterYet17 said:
Wtf does a vegan turkey roast look like lol? Or taste like?
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Look it up. The two major brands are gardein and tofurkey. Never had one but going to give it a shot. They’re selling out everywhere this year.

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I have been vegetarian for almost a year and I am satisfied by doing my part. I can do more such as create less trash, however this is a problem ingrained within supermarkets and packaging.
 
Here's an idea,

Let's cancel all air travel. Really, there is absolutely no need for it, only for people to visit other locations.

Jets burn shit fuel and they are not burning it clean either. 10% of every barrel of oil produced ends up in a jet.
 
13995672:Rusticles said:
Here's an idea,

Let's cancel all air travel. Really, there is absolutely no need for it, only for people to visit other locations.

Jets burn shit fuel and they are not burning it clean either. 10% of every barrel of oil produced ends up in a jet.
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Just found out the other day that large cruise ships burn 250 tons or 800,000 gallons of fuel per day...

This all goes back to the Bill Burr bit about sinking cruise ships, also because cruise ship people are the worst kind of people. Annoying vegans get a free pass on that 1st place.
 
13995681:Twinjibber77 said:
Just found out the other day that large cruise ships burn 250 tons or 800,000 gallons of fuel per day...

This all goes back to the Bill Burr bit about sinking cruise ships, also because cruise ship people are the worst kind of people. Annoying vegans get a free pass on that 1st place.
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I've thought of that as well, even if/when electric cars/trucks become the norm there are still a lot of fossil fuel burning vehicles.

I say more trains (perfect example of Hybrids) and scaled down modularized nuclear power for large ships. Get Elon to fly the waste to the moon.
 
I would. I am all ready starting to eat less and less meat anyways. Work circumstances make being vegan extremely difficult though.
 
I became a vegan on accident for about a month, Soylent is 100% vegan and I survive almost 100% on the shit now aside from when I question if I'm alive and make spaghetti or something
 
13995831:Poindexter. said:
Problem with sending nuclear waste into space is the what happens if the shuttle explodes on take off
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I'm sure we could figure out how to handle that scenario. We've figured out how to handle nuclear reactor meltdowns, we can figure out shipping the waste.

13995844:K-Dot. said:
https://cgspace.cgiar.org/bitstream/handle/10568/10601/IssueBrief3.pdf
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Again, why would I believe that article? All they said is 45% of land is covered by livestock, I call bullshit, show some proof or evidence. Maybe and it's still a stretch is the real stat is 45% of farm land is livestock and that's how they should state it. This is a classic bullshit stat misrepresented to sway peoples opinion.
 
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