Words to Ignore

goretex

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Self destruction has always been cool. Kurt Cobain, infinitely cool. Chris Farley, cool. O.D.B., absolutely, undeniably cool. Snowboarding is a veritable factory of cool, not to mention product tie-ins. Whatever your take on the legitimacy of that sport as a something more than another market, as an art or religion for some, the ever-changing styles in snowboarding are a fantastic catchall for continuing product development. Now why am I talking about snowboarding, aside, obviously, from it being really cool? Because skiing is snowboarding's nearly washed-up older brother banking on lil' bro's success for its own resurrection, and it's doing quite well. Snowboarding is still probably setting the curve but that's really no matter at this point. The point is, in developing the sport we all love we've amalgamated developments that serve to pull the proverbial gun closer and closer to our collective foot.

Heads will shake and fists will pump, but for the sake of this article your counter-opinions are being rendered worthless when I say global warming and the effects of the newly minted Anthropocene Era are now fact. Every mile you drive to your hill, every lift ride you make, every groomer you ski is drawing all of us closer and closer to a world that gives even less notice to the world of snowsports. Think about it, a Pisten Bully park groomer burns about four and a half gallons of diesel an hour. When the groomers shut down in the morning, booters properly Wu-ed, ski outs buffed and your favorite lanes of cord beckon that achingly slow line of cars trawling along behind that one guy in front who put on his chains despite the bare road begins its march to the parking lot. Once it's there, let's say the road wasn't bare and there are 3 feet of fresh caking trees and power lines, so much snow in fact, that power has been knocked out so the lifts are on diesel. You can practically smell the snow melting. Alright, the lifts are too crowded, you want nothing to do with the tourist rabble with their Acura MDXs and Atomic Metrons, you're going to load up the truck and take your new Summit 800 out in the BC, which is safe thanks to the Howitzer rounds fired at it in the wee hours of this beautiful, hazy morning. But what else are you going to do, tour? How excruciatingly slow and lame. You eat bacon, not granola. The fact is, our entire sport has been built to spite itself, which is, in fact, what makes it so cool. The aspects of skiing that do it little to no harm are relics reserved for magazine retrospectives on the yester-years of Jackson and skinny guys in last year's Arc'Teryx talking about the pit they dug this morning. So, suicide is where the money is. We enjoy our easy access park and pow fix. It's there, it's easy, it's fun and it's sick, brah.

Then again, one could suppose that it's all really the fault of those who allow themselves to remain in the sport with any aspirations outside of market forces. The sport was built by lumberjacks and floats on the success of developers. All of the soul and individuality claimed in snowsports' styles are really perfectly placed product promotions at an underutilized target markets of indy-fag-hipsters from Seattle, and yippies from the Bay. So just remember, when you finally get to buy that sled so that bad park days can be turned to fruitful backcountry expeditions, you're gallantly doing your part to keep the American dream of prosperity alive, because infinite growth is the heavenly mandate of the land. But do us a favor and remember not to teach your kids too much about what powder used to be and remember that we're all digging our own graves.
 


musta been some ridiculously strong shit.

did you buy it from that tribal african dude around the corner?
 
although i do not agree with some of your statements, i would have to say that was a very well written piece. Take the time and read this guys, some interesting points spun a different way
 
well written and, although dramatic, contains a valid warning. I disagree with your analogy of snowsports self-destruction with the 'cool' downfalls of Cobain and others. While the dark intentionality of those stories is fascinating, there's nothing cool about ending yourself through thoughtlessness and stupidity. Dudes who shoot themselves in the face cleaning their guns don't have much of a cult following.
 
Good read.

Interesting, and some parts are definitely agree-able. It's a hard line to walk though with snowsports as they used to be transportation, and have only more recently become mainstream activites.

Oh, and in before this turns into a global-warming pissing match, despite the fact that I truly hope that does not happen here.
 
summarization:

he is talking about the skiing population effect on global warming. altho me may be trying to stop global warming we are also supporting it by driving to mountains, using chair lifts, snow pows for raods, snowmobiles for bad park days ect.

this is all essentially true but to continue our sport their is nothing much we can do skiing wise until they make more fuel efficient things, because not everyone can live in at a mountain.

but i suggest people read it.
 
I'm so glad that everyone complains and bitches about all the mindless threads, but then someone posts something with some substance and potential for serious discussion, and everyone is too dimwitted/lazy to take the few minutes it takes to read, and comprehend the idea that someone is trying to convey.
 
I'm going to have to go ahead and... disagree with you there. Rockstars. The so-called tragically hip? Disregard for one's own wellbeing is often given plenty of attention.
 
Good read indeed.

Although I disagree with some of your points, I definitely think this is one of the most well written and provocative threads to grace the NS forums in a while.
 
thats the crappy thing about our sport, but i don't see anything that we can really do. unless you want to hike for your turns which i surely don't want to do
 
Interesting read, didnt see it going in the direction it did at first and some statements just seemed strange, also your horribly pessimistic, but an interesting read. Shame of things is we dont have much of a choice right now but i like to be optimistic, things will be alright, my kids will have their pow days in the decades to come.
 
Sometimes that's the point of a critique. Point out the extremes and come back to the center.

And Yippie = Yuppie + Hippie... faux hippies with money.
 
I always referred to them as "Trust-a-farians". They rome Boulder, Colorado in their large SUVs, dreadlocks, and California attitudes.
 
I've left my Summit behind plenty this year to enjoy the backcountry on skins and trekkers...

But yeah, you're pretty much dead on with your argument, as much as I wish it were exaggeraged.
 
and you sir, just wasted 5 minutes of my life....plus you make no sense, you dont think powder days will be around in 20 years, global warming is happening, its been happening since the last ice age, all you al gore bitches who belive him that antarctica is melting, well it is, but only on the west side, its losing ice on the west side while Antarctica is really overall gaining more ice than its losing, look it up its proven, also way back during dino-ages (about 6-7 million years ago) it was on average 20 degrees hotter all over the earth, so for all you who say that its super hot, try living in the dino- ages where instead of being 120 degrees in arizona it was 140 and humid.
 
you might not agree with what he's saying but if reading the thread was a waste of your time then clearly you are not open to any sort of debate on an opinion you have already formed. Now im not saying i agree or disagree with you or the thread creator, im slightly undecided on the whole matter at the moment but i willingly read other people's opinions and like to think that even when i have formed my own decision on the subject i'll still not think if it as wasting my time to read someone else's. on another side, since you seem so sure of yourself, do you not think the millions of people who believe global warming to be happening at the moment have considered your view, i.e. that being the "cycle-theory". you haven't come up with a ground-breaking theory that answers all questions on the matter so try and see a different angle from behind your blinkers.
 
Interesting thread, and well-written post.

I like to think I'm doing my part by only bussing, hitchhiking or carpooling to and from the mountain, and not driving anywhere (I can't drive). but then again I buy a lot of stuff and use a lot of electricity..
 
Very nice post. Well written and well thought out. Keep posting. NS could use more members like you.
 
Very well written. I'm legitimately impressed. On the other hand you strike me as an ELF, or at least someone who sympathizes with that group. One of my summer jobs in college was working as a laborer on the first 2 Elk at Vail, The ELF's burnt it down and luckily didn't fry most of Mushroom Bowl in the process. I don't believe in global warming, but I do believe in energy conservation. I am gradually converting most of the lighting in my house to LED's and I have biked my kids to and from school for the past 4 years averaging around 4000 miles a year pulling a trailer bike and a Burly, 2 back packs, 2 kids and all the rocks my daughter managed to collect that day. In the end I believe the all mighty dollar will save us all. Companies will make big money producing OLED products, fuel cell vehicles, longer life batteries, etc. Some people will buy them because they will eventually save them money, others because they are wanting to be more Green, and still others just because the shit's cool. If that doesn't do enough then the melting ice will alter the gulf stream and send us into another ice age. Nature finds a way. Always has; always will. That may not make sense, but it's late.
 
agreed, mythreads for when its not 4AM and both of my eyes can focus, cause I didn't quite catch the gist of the whole OP.
 
Very interesting perspective. I think one thing that's important to point out is that the typical ski experience you've described is not the same one that everyone enjoys - and in my mind, really dedicated skiers will never prize the conveniences of chairlifts, sleds or cars more than the simple experience of sliding down a snow-covered hill.

Here's a little alternate scenario: You wake up at 6am to see that at least 10 inches of new snow have fallen outside. You grab your gear, step out the door, and ski or walk down the road to the base of your local mountain. Once there, a skin of less than two hours up a ridge gets your heart beating while you enjoy the early morning calm and the serenity of the mountain. You shred a few laps of pristine BC lines, enjoying each turn that much more because you earned it. Maybe you build a booter with some buddies - no CO2 emissions needed except the ones gasped out with each tossed shovelful of snow.

That evening you head home tired, but still ready to sesh the rail in your buddy's yard for a few more hours. Al Gore would be impressed.
 
-k. You made some valid points, but you cant hate on touring. My best turns of my life were miles from any lifts.

While the writing was painfully bad, I endured it and read the whole thing. I understand the point your trying to make, but it had an immature air of introspection that could have been better refined. Looking deeper into yourself and your life's meaning doesnt necesarily entail the use of this weird, almost subtextual language.

So, basically; cool story, Hansel.
 
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