Woooooooooh. Barack Obama Elected president.



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im so pumped, i cant wait for our health care system to get even worse... to take my money when im successfull and give it to the people who dont work...and i cant wait till every illigal has a drivers liscens but no insurance to pay for their cars when they hit me, and cant wait till he takes away my second amendment right im so excetid so over all it was a good night last night
 
wow i dont wana come off as an asshole but im not ingorant number one and more likely than not i will tear you a new asshole if we debated politics.....

well there goes my karma
 
i doubt that. however does it really matter? its over. i had to deal with your retard for 8 years. now its your turn
 
point 1: it's always been "cool" to vote. look at the struggles everyone in this country has endured to vote; the poor people of our country (land requirements), women, minorities all couldn't vote at one point. the only people who were handed voting rights were wealthy white people. so when you say that voting just became "cool" with obama, the arguement falls short compared to the energy involved in allowing everyone to vote. these political movements don't result from a few commercial ads. they result from years of grass roots movements that eventually overcast the present societal norms. it's called progression and it takes years to evolve.

point 2: Why do I think number of votes have been so low in america? well my opinion is that a majority of people weren't involved in politics because their ideals and values weren't being represented. it's hard to work with a system that doesn't have candidates that represent your values. we often heard, we're choosing the lesser of two evils. sadly, that's why i voted bush in 2004. and that was the case for many republicans that voted for obama this year, he was the lesser of two evils for them. additionally, many conservatives feel the same way about mccain. however, this year a large portion of america felt that obama really spoke to thier core values. you can see it with all of the people crying during his speeches and the increase in the voting population. this all wasn't just to support the black guy and have a dot in history during our life times. well, maybe for some it was, but that is a small percentage of the people who supported obama and i feel it may be a wash when compared to those who voted for the white guy. he spoke of the issues that americans face everyday, and if any of you drop out of school to ski bum or turn 23(24?) before obama gets his plan rolling- that healthcare issue will really change your perspective. i still have a fucked up shoulder from crashing during my ski bum years. with our current system i was booted from my parents insurance and i could only afford disaster insurance which was still $85 a month. So, until you actually face the issues obama was acknowledging, i expect that you don't understand why there was such a large turn out for obama. but to say that this election was solely based on an american idol-esque contest is the most inaccurate stance one could argue.

point 3: John McCain wasn't the underdog this entire election and that is clearly evident from the total population's vote 52% for obama (with historical voter turnouts & financing) and 46% for McCain (almost half our country without those factors working for him). if you don't remember as far back as september, it was a very tight race. which would express that the majority of our nation did acknowledge that McCain was a different human being than Bush. of course, then the economy dropped and someone's plan seemed a little more favorable to the majority of this country, while the other seemed to favor the higher portion of society. so while McCain may have seemed to have a more favorable policies to you, only 46% of the voting population felt the same way. please don't discredit the other 52% of the population as people who don't vote on the currenty issues of our nation. afterall, roughly 30% of our country are unaffiliated voters. however, just to throw your own mud back at you. according to your argument, i could say that people who voted for mccain simply voted because they really did believe obama is a terrorist, wasn't born in hawaii, is a socialist (in a negative way), kills babies, hates america, and alienated joe the plumber (who represents me because i have a job too). but there is no way, shape, or form that they could have voted for mccain because of his policies. sounds pretty outrageous huh?

now, i want you to think back on your comment about voting for the most popular candidate and reflect on who was compaigning about issues and who was campaigning for a popularity contest. the answer is very clear, and i believe the man that represented, for once, social etiquette in a political campaign and the core values of the majority of our country won this election. i'm sorry you don't feel the same way.
 
Honestly how can your health care system get any worse than it is? You may have top notch quality but when major injuries happen families cannot afford to pay for that quality. I'll take our universal healthcare over your privatized bullshit

what happens if you weren't successful? What happens if you were born in the projects? What happened if your parents died and you were in foster care working two fast food jobs just to get out into a shady ass apartment? The problem with some (notice I said some) conservatives is that they see poor people as lazy people. Some of the least well off people I know have overcome huge obstacles due to the fact that they have had some financial help from the government (Ontario Student Assistance Program for students from low income families).

Also I don't know why you gun bangers are all up in a tissy over the 2nd amendment. The Supreme Court has clearly stated that the 2nd amendment will not be revised or amended and Barrack has stated time and time again that he does not wish to infringe on the rights of gun owners (even though his PERSONAL views think likewise). I'm a gun owner myself so don't think im some tree banging leftist commie I just like using common sense.
 
Just to add, if Barrack even hints about banning or regulating any sort of the firearm the NRA will be so far up his ass he'll have trouble sitting down. It's just not strategically worth it to piss off such a huge demographic.
 
yes, the supreme court made a statement in DC vs Heller. but how long will it last under obama? the vote was 5-4, which on a 9 member panel is about as close as it gets. of the 5 in favor, obama voted against two of them, and stated he would have voted against two others if he had the chance. given the age of the current justices, it is highly likely that obama will be appointing a couple justices during his tenure in the white house. and 305/535 members of congress stuck their necks out BEFORE the supreme court decision and signed an amicus brief stating their support. click that link and see if you can find biden's or obama's name. in summation; obama does not even come close to agreeing with the supreme court's decision, and will have the power in a couple years to overturn the heller decision.

also straight from the obama website: "They also support making the expired federal Assault Weapons Ban

permanent, as such weapons belong on foreign battlefields and not on

our streets." clinton's AWB was a bunch of baloney. FBI states that less than 1% of crimes are committed with these so-called assault weapons. its not about fully-automatic kalashnikov's and cheapassopenboltfiring uzi's. its about banning ex-military members from owning ar-15s, semiautomatic versions of the m-16s. hell it even addresses COLT by name. and the AWB addressed cosmetic features. how many bayonet-ings have occurred since the AWB sunsetted? true politician move to "ban" something that doesn't even occur, so it looks like he his doing something, when in actuality: nothing.

and blah, blah, blah, he has stated, he has stated. but he has voted in the opposite of what he stated, in order to gain votes (as with all politicians). his speeches and past voting records are fact. all we can do now is sit back and see if he makes presidential actions more akin to his recent speeches or past votings.
 
i'd gander that:

american healthcosts are high because the doctors charge you a bunch.

and the doctors charge you a bunch because their malpractice insurances are high.

and their malpractice insurances are high because of the threat of lawsuits.

and thus we have a group of leeches (ambulance chasing lawyers) who fucked up our system for us.
 
i actually debated medical mal practice for a whole year of HS.... super super interesting ill have to see if i can dig up some of the papers i wrote about it. (we're talking 10min of speaking paper)

its definitely not the whole problem but it is a HUGE problem.
 
arguing who knows more is ignorant and besides the point, p.s. i wanst a bush supporter even a little bit look what he has done to our country, but by no means was i a mccain supporter either i was an avid ron paul supported i just hated mccain a little less than i hated obama and i didnt vote for either of them actually, its just sad that people have to vote for the lesser of two evils.
 
youre right, its painted white. It has nothing to do with the color of the people inside of it you retard. Is Greenland named that because all the people are green?
 
so when are you going to get banned? So far you haven't managed to put together a single logical argument towards your cause. You're one dumb fuck of an alias.
 
i heard he's taking out nixons bowling alley and replacing it with a basketball court then holding NBA games there.
thats what the radio station said...then he'll put in a kfc or have sweet tea in the water fountains.
 
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