Wood vs. foam core
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thedutchmayn
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thedutchmayn
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i dont know if it helped that much but whatever. i wasn't trying to be a dick or anything, just to let you know.
toominator
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wood = heavier + durable
foam = lighter + not durable
foam = lighter + not durable
patrickcowan
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foam=bitch
wood=man
wood=man
bemmis
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it's the common perception that foam core's are lighter than wood but that is actually not true. if you go to salomon's site you will notice that the dumont is the lightest ski in the line. (of that size, 174/176) The dumont is also the only ski in the line that has a woodcore. for example, the 176 dumont weighs 1600g whereas the 174 foil weighs 1790g.
Mt.Steezerest
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Wood lasts a lot longer then foam
Klick_2_klaim
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Not alot, foam has the advantage of being the exact same in every ski. there might be irregularities in wood. ALot of people will tell you that foam is just junk, but it isnt. Foam is not a correct term either, composite is better, because its not juts like spray foam they put in windows or something. A high end ski, foam or wood will perform, personal preference is key.
MLB
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Ok how about i throw it down for every kid who has fucked up their answers in this thread.
Wood core is the orignial core. It is not really heavyer then foam core. It all depends on the type of wood, the type of contruction, and how it is sealed/stained. The common types of woodcore are canadian hard maple, poplar, bamboo, and well basicly mostly any kind of wood if you want to. Differernt woods have different flex patterns.
Bamboo is know to be every light flexible and strong. The only thing is that this wood tends to lose is stiffness very quickly.
Maple is strong, heavy, and can be very stiff depending on the treatment. It is the most durable of all the woods, and the prime wood used in many lumber products ( skateboards, furniture, etc). This is the most commonly used wood in skis.
Wood is prefered because it is stonger and the elements do not change it as easily. The only problem with wood is that if you chip away too much of your top sheet and moisture gets in it would warp the wood resulting in delam, weakness in the whole ski.
Now from what i know about foam ( which is not much, but i have owned a few skis Atomic tweak and 2000 -2002 Salomon 1080 Vinny D).
I found that it is lighter, but alot less durable depending on the ski. My foam core 1080 is in way better shape then my newer woodcore AR5s, but the atomic tweaks are past the point of even being used for urban. The ones i have tryed are quite brittle, and the consistancy of the core will change with the elements. Ive seen some friend's cores melt, expand, and delam their skis due to the skis coming in from the cold to heat. But don't knock foam. Ive seen people who live by it, and there are TONS of old 1080s that are still being used.
Wood core is the orignial core. It is not really heavyer then foam core. It all depends on the type of wood, the type of contruction, and how it is sealed/stained. The common types of woodcore are canadian hard maple, poplar, bamboo, and well basicly mostly any kind of wood if you want to. Differernt woods have different flex patterns.
Bamboo is know to be every light flexible and strong. The only thing is that this wood tends to lose is stiffness very quickly.
Maple is strong, heavy, and can be very stiff depending on the treatment. It is the most durable of all the woods, and the prime wood used in many lumber products ( skateboards, furniture, etc). This is the most commonly used wood in skis.
Wood is prefered because it is stonger and the elements do not change it as easily. The only problem with wood is that if you chip away too much of your top sheet and moisture gets in it would warp the wood resulting in delam, weakness in the whole ski.
Now from what i know about foam ( which is not much, but i have owned a few skis Atomic tweak and 2000 -2002 Salomon 1080 Vinny D).
I found that it is lighter, but alot less durable depending on the ski. My foam core 1080 is in way better shape then my newer woodcore AR5s, but the atomic tweaks are past the point of even being used for urban. The ones i have tryed are quite brittle, and the consistancy of the core will change with the elements. Ive seen some friend's cores melt, expand, and delam their skis due to the skis coming in from the cold to heat. But don't knock foam. Ive seen people who live by it, and there are TONS of old 1080s that are still being used.
max.
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FUCK haha not good news. I just bought last years dumonts that have the foam core. but on the positive side I am not the most aggressive skier so I hope durability wont be a huge problem. I know that there changing them for this year to wood, but that would have meant spending almost $200 more so I was just like fuck it. Is the wood core worth that?
Adrenaline
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I had pocket rockets, and I was skiing down bowl 2 at meadows and hit a chunk of snow that had come off the cat as it was on the edge of the groomer, and my ski bent like the skate banana from lib tech. it turned into a v. never did get salomon to replace those even though I had owned them for 2 months, hence no more salomon ever for me. man, that was a long time ago.
skier_boy26
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I got into a rather large dispute during an expo with a rep from one of the larger ski companies about foam cores after telling a friend that foam cores don't have much in the way of long term durability (and they dont). It got so absurd that at one point the man said "the type of core doesn't matter, you could stuff it with newspaper and it would still be the same. The flex and life is in the frame..." :/
anywho, wood=better
anywho, wood=better
TheButterHashira
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wood hard wood
JaphyRyder
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max who cares last years dumonts are soo dope. my foils are foam obviously and theyre still fine far as i can tell
