Will the ski culture ever take its head out of its ass? Read on..

nipe

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Now, this is more than a rant, but I am going to start off with one so please excuse me.

I see a slowly changing scene, but for the past few years, skiing has and continues to still hold an image of something to prove. This goes beyond a few individuals with unique style or their own lifestyle. It goes to a point where every alternate style that comes along, the community feels it needs to piggyback onto in order to identify itself. The biggest one is an urban, ghetto/ hiphop scene. Same goes with all the 80s steeze, another image that has been adopted and overused to try and bring an image to the sport.

Face it. Most of us are white, live in the mountains, and have thrown away our own culture on the hill in favor for being either ghettoized or wearing banana yellow stretch pants for the sake of trying to seperate ourselves.

This not only goes for the culture, but design inside the industry. Armada's site is their best to date, but all the "progressive" brands out there have terrible design, one that latches onto one of these cultures that are no more than a crutch.

I'm sorry, but it is not cool to wear chains and act like you're from Detriot when you've never left Aspen, or dress up in a one piece and scream at everyone because its funny. Pimp suits? Please. It's not cool, its insecure. We have no reason not to be secure in the success and beauty of our sport, and we have no reason to latch onto cultures that are not our own. I do however respect and encourage individuality, that is what makes a sport unique. However its a mass adaptation of an alternative culture to attempt to bring credibility that really annoys me.

The same thing happened in snowboarding, for awhile. Once however, the sport didn't need mirrors and facades to hide behind, those cultures faded to only individual expressions.

I'll give you a great example starting with design alone.

If you have the time, visit www.elansnowboards.com or www.burton.com, then compare it to Line's site. While the snowboard company sites have clean, modern design, Line's unfortunately doesn't. Last year it was more 80s, apparently its been toned down a bit, but its still far from what anyone would call progressive. I hate to rip on a company I respect, but I don't respect the fact that our sport doesn't even respect themselves.

I really wish we had the culture that modern snowboarding has. Much of that community has great style, respect, and attitude, and I feel skiing still has a long way to go. We could however get there much quicker if we just cut out the crap.

 
then get a snowboard. skiing isn't an image. people need to quit trying to make it more than it is. when im skiing deep ass pow lines i don't give a rats ass what someone is trying to prove and if some kid is unique. just ski
 
Finally somebody makes a thought-out post about this! Now if only somebody else could combat it with support for hopping on the bandwagon with 20" wheels and rap blaring from it. I totally agree with your viewpoint, but I have come to accept that our generation is completely willing to be brainwashed into losing their individuality in the hopes of being as cool as the people they admire. The only cure to this is to simply pull the blinds over your eyes and ignore what's going on with ski "culture"(or lack thereof). As long as there's a trend to follow, it seems everybody's going to do it.
 
I do just ski. This wasn't me crying about how much I want to snowboard. I'd just like to see everyone else just ski as well.
 
i just ski with friends and have a good time fuck this shit about the image of the sport. who the fuck cares, skiing is about skiing not this image bullshit, who the fuck cares if companys aren't taking themselves too seriously or if people want to rep some G shit do w/e the fuck you want just have fun thats what its all about
 
get over it... you dont have to go on a rant about how you think we should all be like you. diffrent companies do ther own thing because thats what makes their products one of a kind such as line skis. move in your own direction and dont worry about other riders styles. thats part of ski culture and its not going away, if you dont like it then get a snow bike and a cowboys jacket...lol
 
I like knowing that skiers in general have something to prove it's what pushes us to do thing that were thought impossible and make them the norm
 
You guys are EXACTLY proving my point. If we all were really acting like individuals we'd see something totally different.
 
All I have to say is

GET A FUCKING LIFE

LET OTHER PEOPLE DO WHAT THEY WANT.

maybe it's cause I am pissed the fuck off, but I don't think I can bear to read even one more post like that. IT'S FUCKING BEEN DONE. you are following the cool kids by ranting about gangsters and 80s people.

You want to try to present proof to back up your argument? instead of looking at one site, like Lineskis, look at rossignol's site or the surface site. Then for contrast, look at the technine or capita site. OH NO! THEY APPEAL TO DIFFERENT AUDIENCES! WE SHOULD MAKE A HATE THREAD ABOUT THEM!

Stop being a bitch and do what you want, stop caring about what others do.
 
Your signature kind of sums it up for me.

If you're looking for some individuality in skiing, or a break from the norm, or just can't seem to manuever your way around here lately and see what you're looking for, that's foolish, and you're most likely not looking hard enough.

Like Febus said, you just need to shovel some feces to discover it...once you do it's a wonderful little niche I never want to leave or stop watching.
 
could have been worded nicer...

In my opinion, i wear what I like, and I wear it how I like. I want to be nidividual. I dont want to have the same Aeryx Suit as the other dude. I want to be unique.
 
The last thing....if you can't find any "non-clean" site designs in the snowboard world...or any 80's steez, or even the gangstah image on sites...snowboard and ski included....again, see above.

I'm not ripping on you, I'm just telling you, it's there, it's wonderful. I promise.
 
I suggest you be an individual and wear what you want. However when I go to my local hill and see all the newschool skiers divided into 80 posterstars and ghetto thugs, it's a bullshit image. That isn't who we are. There is no snow in LA. You did not come from that, I'm sorry.
 
i agree 100%. there are way to many threads about how all us scrawny little white kids from mountain towns need to stop wearing baggy cloths and stop listenung to rap and stop this and stop that. LET PEOPLE DO WHAT THEY WANT TO DO! If kids want to wear xxl clothing why does it matter to you? does it hurt you in some way? if it does i am terribly sorry but baggy clothing and that whole image is here to stay...
 
ok i come from suburbia...and i don't wear a one-piece, or XXXXXL pants and chains.....i wear whatever i think is cool...but do you realizing what you're saying?? I think im gettin what you're sayin, and mabye im not understanding this right..but you want everyone who skis to dress the same? Regardless of what you want to do you have to dress "normaly"?? if everyone dressed as white as most of us all are...i think skiing would be a lot more boring...and even by having a messed up image of 80s hosers and thugs...its still an image....and if its not the image youy want, don't dress in a one piecer or wear a bandana...ive seen snowboarding movies and theres guys in one-piecers, theres guys in bandanas and XXL jackets, but who cares...thats them...

But to completely contradict myself i hear what you're saying and it is pathetic how some of the gangstas dress..but its never gonna change, no matter how many posts you make on a website...so i think you have to accept it..

Bottom line: Ski culture is what skiers make it to be...and right now there are more people wanting to be 50cent than themselves...so stick it out and mabye someday you'll have a skiing world with everyone looking "normal"

I hope that made sense..probably not but i gave it my best shot....(longest post ive ever done :] horray)

 
What did I say about baggy clothing? I think everyone now wears more comfortable skiwear that we can actually move in.

However you are seriously selling yourself short if you believe that you have to listen to rap music and wear chains to give your sport some legitimacy. I enjoy music of a rap/hip and hop nature as well, but that doesn't mean I'm going to paint myself black so I can relate with an already established culture with its own credibility.
 
hey man, don't be sayin there's no skiers from LA. I live in LA, so does abek, so does sean (close enough) and lots of other skiers.
 
I've already stressed individuality was important, like it is anywhere.

What is important here is that people need to BE THEMSELVES.
 
maybe i mis read your first post cause i agree with you here... i just thought you meant everyone should stop the whole baggy clothing thing. sorry for coming off a bit hostile
 
^ you seem a little confused... he originally said that there was no snow in LA... then the other guy said "dont say there arent kiers in la"... then he responded "i didnt say there werent skiers, i said there wasnt snow"...
 
in that case... how about this?

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i stood on top of this 11,000 foot peak in april, and could see LAX and the pacific ocean.

what do you know... snow... in LA.
 
most sports have there own there own styles. Like lots of BMXers, Dirt Jumpers and Skateboarders were like tight pants. and Surfer and Wakeboarders style is just kinda chill with like flip flops and board shorts and volcom T-shirts. and lots of skiiers are wearing baggy shit and bandanas i wear semi baggy shit and sport the bandnana sometimes. and i dont act like i am from detroit. i dont hang out in the park all day like some people think kids that dress like that do.
 
Actually it will change. And someday we will all look back and say wtf were we thinking. Look at the disco time period, for an example, and the cloths that the people living through that time period wore. Now most of them look back and say wtf were we thinking. Same with a lot of music. I know a lot of you probably are wondering what the hell you were thinking with some of the music you listened to when you were younger. Times do change, and when we get out of this ghetto dressing period I am going to look back and be able to say at least I wasn't like that. And I would like to see some of you walk through Detroit dressing and acting the way a lot of you do on the slopes, all I have to say is good luck. Most of you skiers are moderatly well off white kids and you are almost mocking a culture, that you are not a part of.

i hope you all dont get pissed from this post, this is just my point of view, I will listen to what the rest of you have to say on the subject.
 
"I'm sorry, but it is not cool to wear chains and act like you're from Detriot when you've never left Aspen, or dress up in a one piece and scream at everyone because its funny."

"The same thing happened in snowboarding, for awhile. Once however, the sport didn't need mirrors and facades to hide behind, those cultures faded to only individual expressions."

"I'll give you a great example starting with design alone.

If you have the time, visit www.elansnowboards.com or www.burton.com, then compare it to Line's site. While the snowboard company sites have clean, modern design, Line's unfortunately doesn't."

Many of your points are simply opinion. Look around, there are still thousands of white suburban snowboarders pushing the gangster image harder than ever, 80s, and emo steeze as well. Snowboarding isn't much different from skiing when it comes to the "cool" aspect or what's fashionable. There will always be people more concerned with their outerwear than their skiing, but thats how companies make money. If everyone skied in 4 year old clothes because they wanted to save the extra money to ski more, then many companies wouldnt exist. Burton would'nt be where it is now without thousands and thousands of so called "posers" who wanted the new cool board or jacket. Burton can afford to drop crazy amounts of money in designing there products and as a result they have some of the slickest stuff out there. They also market ugly stuff well enough to make kids want it no matter how hideous the plaid jumpsuit is. None of this would be possible without the kind of people you are talking about. I hate people who act fake just much as the next guy, but they are a large part of supporting the sport.
 
this is true in most cases but a lot of styles recycle, not always in exactly the same way but similar things are brought back and marketed to be cool again. bell bottoms, plaid, corduroy, etc
 
I dont think its skiing that needs to pull its head out of its ass... ITS YOU. Get off it,who cares if kids are idiots? I'm me I wear big ass clothes Im white,I listen to hip hop so the fuck what? Thats why im MALONE thats why I do what I do, Im into it, some kids are into tight pants and neon sweaters good for them I dont care and neither should you. I think your worrying about what other people do a little to much. So what SHOULD kids wear? How should kids act? What is the Right music to listen too? Whats an appropriate amount of jewlery for a skier? Your a fucking tool.
 
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