Will i need surgery

nah bro, just ice should be good, 20 mins on 20 mins off for the next seven years and you may get your arm back to a slightly functioning level. Cheers!
 
topic:werdna said:
Hey guys can someone tell me if i need surgery i recently broke my collorbone

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Not a doctor but in my opinion, hate to be the bearer of bad news, but you will most likely need surgery. I've broken both of my ankles, separate times, and the on second one (right ankle) my foot was pointing to my right while my leg was perfectly straight. Both times I broke them, it was my tibial growth plate, right at the base of the tibia where your shin meets your ankle. However, despite the second time around being a little mangled, the fracture was literally a clean cut line, so they were able to reset it back into place and I healed up just fine.

But in your case, this is not a clean fracture and the collar bone is unfortunately not something that is cast-able. In other words, if I was a doc and reset that collar bone so both ends met perfectly together, what would hold them in that fixed position to heal properly? The only answer to that question is either a plate, pin, or screw, you cannot cast it to hold it like you would for an ankle per se.

Again, I am not a medical professional, but considering this is not just a crack/small fracture and the bone is literally broken in half, I am going to bet that you will most likely need some form of surgery.

Heal up!
 
14577270:Pac2 said:
Not a doctor but in my opinion, hate to be the bearer of bad news, but you will most likely need surgery. I've broken both of my ankles, separate times, and the on second one (right ankle) my foot was pointing to my right while my leg was perfectly straight. Both times I broke them, it was my tibial growth plate, right at the base of the tibia where your shin meets your ankle. However, despite the second time around being a little mangled, the fracture was literally a clean cut line, so they were able to reset it back into place and I healed up just fine.

But in your case, this is not a clean fracture and the collar bone is unfortunately not something that is cast-able. In other words, if I was a doc and reset that collar bone so both ends met perfectly together, what would hold them in that fixed position to heal properly? The only answer to that question is either a plate, pin, or screw, you cannot cast it to hold it like you would for an ankle per se.

Again, I am not a medical professional, but considering this is not just a crack/small fracture and the bone is literally broken in half, I am going to bet that you will most likely need some form of surgery.

Heal up!

100% I have 9 screws in from a crash last year and it didn't look as bad as that
 
topic:werdna said:
Hey guys can someone tell me if i need surgery i recently broke my collorbone

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Same thing happened to me last month; I ended up getting surgery since mine was compound and displaced. Yours is displaced but clean. If you've got insurance definitely see an orthopedist to get their opinion. That said, it will heal completely on its own if you don't get surgery, but you may have disfigurement in the area and potential complications. Feel free to DM me with questions. Feel better!

**This post was edited on Jan 3rd 2024 at 9:19:39pm
 
14577277:S.C said:
Same thing happened to me last month; I ended up getting surgery since mine was compound and displaced. Yours is displaced but clean. If you've got insurance definitely see an orthopedist to get their opinion. That said, it will heal completely on its own if you don't get surgery, but you may have disfigurement in the area and potential complications. Feel free to DM me with questions. Feel better!

**This post was edited on Jan 3rd 2024 at 9:19:39pm

Thank you so much
 
14577270:Pac2 said:
Not a doctor but in my opinion, hate to be the bearer of bad news, but you will most likely need surgery. I've broken both of my ankles, separate times, and the on second one (right ankle) my foot was pointing to my right while my leg was perfectly straight. Both times I broke them, it was my tibial growth plate, right at the base of the tibia where your shin meets your ankle. However, despite the second time around being a little mangled, the fracture was literally a clean cut line, so they were able to reset it back into place and I healed up just fine.

But in your case, this is not a clean fracture and the collar bone is unfortunately not something that is cast-able. In other words, if I was a doc and reset that collar bone so both ends met perfectly together, what would hold them in that fixed position to heal properly? The only answer to that question is either a plate, pin, or screw, you cannot cast it to hold it like you would for an ankle per se.

Again, I am not a medical professional, but considering this is not just a crack/small fracture and the bone is literally broken in half, I am going to bet that you will most likely need some form of surgery.

Heal up!

How long would something like this usually take and I am seeing a ortho on monday. Thank you for ur input aswell
 
14577304:werdna said:
How long would something like this usually take and I am seeing a ortho on monday. Thank you for ur input aswell

Mine healed in 7 weeks. From there it took about a month to get full mobility back in my knee without discomfort (I was casted above my knee). It was actually in more pain than my ankle after sitting in the same position for 7 weeks.
 
Yea man I think so. You should want surgey tho. Surgery is awesome. I have a full metal rod and 8 screws as a clavicle rn, it’s totally sick.
 
14577319:KilaTsunami said:
Yea man I think so. You should want surgey tho. Surgery is awesome. I have a full metal rod and 8 screws as a clavicle rn, it’s totally sick.

Also have a plate and 8 screws after breaking my clavicle. I kinda had to go the surgery route but its ultimately up to you and your doctor.
 
I've had this exact injury. You need surgery, and here's why. The collarbone is essentially the strut for your arm. Right now that strut is shortened and if it heals like that, you'll have that side be permanently shorter than the other. It won't be as strong and it'll affect your ability to do stuff.
 
14577575:BigPurpleSkiSuit said:
I've had this exact injury. You need surgery, and here's why. The collarbone is essentially the strut for your arm. Right now that strut is shortened and if it heals like that, you'll have that side be permanently shorter than the other. It won't be as strong and it'll affect your ability to do stuff.

Agreed 100%. Im getting surgery tomorrow for this since it’s my dominant arm/shoulder and he could see my posture was fucked
 
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i have some experience breaking collarbones and getting surgery and its safe to say that they are going to have to amputate.
 
What's wild about collarbones is basically when they heal naturally, the broken ends grow in every direction until they meet and form a big knot of bone, so they almost always make it work on their own but the result isn't always ideal.

I've broken both collarbones and got surgery on one but not the other. Surgery isn't pleasant, its expensive, and it always carries some small but serious risks like deep tissue infections, so realistically this is serious conversation you should have with your doctor and whoever is getting the bill if it isn't you.

My first break was a smaller crack, no displacement fortunately, I was pretty young still so bones were still partially cartilage. No surgery, healed in like 6-8 weeks I think?

My second break was into 4 pieces and I could feel and see my left shoulder was ~2 inches closer to my centerline than my right shoulder which I didn't like. Doctor said it was my call, it would heal up on its own but not necessarily at the same length. I was able to afford surgery so I went for it, got it 2 weeks after break and it healed up in like maybe 4-6 weeks after that, maybe sooner? I remember it felt better a lot faster than the last time.
 
14577277:S.C said:
Same thing happened to me last month; I ended up getting surgery since mine was compound and displaced. Yours is displaced but clean. If you've got insurance definitely see an orthopedist to get their opinion. That said, it will heal completely on its own if you don't get surgery, but you may have disfigurement in the area and potential complications. Feel free to DM me with questions. Feel better!

**This post was edited on Jan 3rd 2024 at 9:19:39pm

On a serious note, I'm not so sure it will heal on it's own with a break like his. I had a similar break a while ago and the doctor said there was no way it would heal unless the bones were held closer together. One could potentially put together a serious harness to try and hold it back together, but not likely to work well given how far apart the ends are. Surgery likely the only good option here.

Also possible the bone ends were further apart on my break or the doctor didn't know what he was talking about.

**This post was edited on Jan 5th 2024 at 12:27:26pm
 
14577817:corona said:
On a serious note, I'm not so sure it will heal on it's own with a break like his. I had a similar break a while ago and the doctor said there was no way it would heal unless the bones were held closer together. One could potentially put together a serious harness to try and hold it back together, but not likely to work well given how far apart the ends are. Surgery likely the only good option here.

Also possible the bone ends were further apart on my break or the doctor didn't know what he was talking about.

**This post was edited on Jan 5th 2024 at 12:27:26pm

Yeah fr, I'm no orthopedist, but no hopes, prayers, or spells in my grimoire are going to reconnect two widely separate halves of a bone without some plates and screws.
 
This was mine. Right is before putting on a brace, left is after. The Austrian doc decided that they were close enough to re-fuse despite an initial thought that it was going to need surgery.

1084288.jpegA better look at it no brace, it came close to being compound

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It’s fully fused but it’s kinda janky and my shoulder is lower than the other one. I think healing time was like 8 weeks, 12 weeks after, the surgeon was happy for me to use crutches for when I got my ACL fixed so definitely fully fixed in 12 weeks.
 
14577849:FaunaSkis said:
This was mine. Right is before putting on a brace, left is after. The Austrian doc decided that they were close enough to re-fuse despite an initial thought that it was going to need surgery.

View attachment 1084288A better look at it no brace, it came close to being compound

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It’s fully fused but it’s kinda janky and my shoulder is lower than the other one. I think healing time was like 8 weeks, 12 weeks after, the surgeon was happy for me to use crutches for when I got my ACL fixed so definitely fully fixed in 12 weeks.

Damn, ACL and collarbone at the same time?
 
14577850:Yukon_Cornelius said:
Damn, ACL and collarbone at the same time?

Nah, I was skiing with no ACL, massively overshot a jump after following my friend into it turn for turn; despite him being about a foot shorter than me. Was in the air for what felt like forever and was convinced I was going to blow my knee up. Full yard sale, ended up facing up the landing and my knee felt fine but my my shoulder felt funny. Got down to the table of the next jump and showed my friend who almost threw up at the bone end pushing on the skin.

I was scheduled for my knee surgery for like 4 weeks after I did my collar bone but because of the need for crutches, because I needed meniscus work also, they had to push my surgery by 8 weeks. Was back skiing & jumping in 5 months after my knee surgery with a brace.
 
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