Will Gas Prices Go Down Again?

skia4life89

skia4life89

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The reason why I ask, is because back in 2009 or so, gas prices shot up. They got so high to the point where in my town people where freaking out and the lines to the pump where miles long. If I can remember correctly it stayed like that for about a month, then fell sharply after. Like all the way down to 1.90 something. I am just wondering if this will happen this time. I am not really looking for a political debate, just a straight answer.
 
Thats what I am getting at. I am willing to pay more for a little while if it means it will go down afterwards.
 
obviously i do not have the ability to see into the future, but my predicition is that gas prices will rise and keep rising. look for 5$ a gallon this summer. its because of obvious reasons in the middle east and also that gas is a finite resource and is running out. Its time we get witht the program and resort to alternative enrergy sources.
 
When I went for a ride yesterday and I went past 2 gas stations one said $4.95 for regular then the one that was about 100 yards away was $4.35 or something like that and i was like... How is that even possible haha
 
Well that I do not agree with. No matter what we use for fuel it will run out sooner or later. Everyone is under the impression that the world is running out of oil, but there are so many untapped places that could be holding tons and tons of oil. The way I see it, 99% of the people have a gas car, and everyone will always have a gas car. So lets stop worrying about alternative fuels and do something about what we already know.
 
well the issue is that these "untapped places" are often in some kind of wild life reserve, and things like polar energy (although i dont know if you could use that for your car) would nto run out, neither would wind. and i dont think its worth it to possibly destroy these wild life reserves for a resource that is just going to run out anyways. seems like a selfish waste to me.
 
Prices may go down temporarely, but unless we find new sources of oil they will continue to rise. Supply and demand.
 
Yea I agree with you. Places like Alaska we should not drill for obvious reasons. That place is one of the most beautiful last frontier places left on earth. I was more getting at the places off the east coast where there is a no drill ban or what ever. That would solve a lot of problems.
 
ehh still sketched out about that since I live right off the east coast, and it very well could impact the fishing industry. and the problems wouldn't necessarily be solved, more like delayed. IMO i think it would be better to be proactive about energy sources.
 
This might possibly be one of the most ignorant things I have read this year. Burning fuel for energy is medieval in this day and age, why we continue to do it is beyond me. Electric cars are more then viable if we were to spend the money on the R&D for them. Go watch Who Killed the Electric Car, great documentary on them. Also Solar, Wind and Nuclear power are all clean and much more efficient then oil/natural gas. There is no reason why we should not be spending money on alternative/renewable energy sources.

To give my input on the original question, Gas prices are going to continue going up through the summer, I will not be surprised if it hits $6 a gallon here in California. They will most likely then drop down again during the winter that's the trend we have been seeing the past few years.
 
kind of depend on what happens over in the middle east. the barrels at the same price, but gallon prices go up because of the issues. guess we'll see what happens
 
It is people like you though that are the problem. You are all about your Prius and electric cars because it will

"save the environment", but that is false. Electricity is still bad for the environment and charging the fucking thing would cost more than gas would. So why people still continue to argue this is beyond me. Not to mention the batteries that they use are almost in-disposable. Dont believe me? Look it up, there are only a FEW places in the U.S. that can dispose the batteries, because they are harmful for the environment. So all in all its kind of hypocritical dont you think?
 
I said I wasn't going into this pissing match, but I can't sit by when blatent inaccurracies such as this are posted as fact.

That statement could NOT be further from the truth.

I will concede though that our nation's current electrical grid is not prepared to handle a mass influx of EV's. But the cost per mile of fuel source is drastically less on an EV than a gasoline vehicle.
 
Of course they will. Prices fluctuate over a point of equilibrium. The important question is, what is happening to that equilibrium? You can't look at the instantaneous rate of change in macro economic models. Too many variables, too many unknowns.

Gas will probably drop soon, but don't get too comfortable. Gas is going up.
 
gotta have to agree.

whether or not the prices are because of "running out" or not, it should be the most normal thing for everyone to promote alternative energy that dont waste our planets ressources.

its just pushing the whole burden of finding a new energy source to our kids. which is completely unjustifiable.

and yes, gas will fluctuate down. but not too much before the middle east thing is solved.
 
You understand that the electricity you use to charge your EV most likely comes from some powerplant burning fossil fuels at this point. The advantage of the EV is that you can use any type of energy (solar, wind, geo, tides, etc), processes at the powerplant factory that could not be simplified to fit inside a vehicle in most cases.
 
The oil reserves in our planet took hundreds of millions of years to accumulate and form the useful, energy dense hydrocarbons that we use. Quoting directly from my energy and environmental physics textbook

"We first began consuming the fossil fuels at n appreciable rate only about 150 years ago. How long will they last? On a global scale we will still have some coal for a few centuries, but natural gas and oil will be in short supply in only a few decades"

Then it shows a timeline with the present day in the middle, and it goes 5000 years in either direction. On the Y axis it shows the time period that we are projected to use all of our fossil fuels within. It is about a 700 or 800 year blip, with about 75 percent of the consumption taking place during the next 150 or so years.

So yeah, by the time your grandkids are driving, we better have a new way of getting around otherwise we are going to have to go back to shoveling coal into a train engine
 
Not exactly sure what your point is.

With the current electrical power mix, it is considerably less expensive to drive an electric vehicle 50 miles than it is to drive a gasoline powered vehicle of the same characteristics the same 50 miles.

Additionally, my region (New England) and utility's power mix is predominately nuclear and hydro with very little of it being supplied by direct carbon-emitting sources.

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So, if I had an EV, it would be incredibly inaccurate to assume that the car was being charged by a fossil fuel plant.
 
And your point continues to paint the picture that it is incredibly wise not to make assumptions on power mix of someone.

MY utilities power mix is as I posted, which means MY power supply uses little to no fossil fuels.
 
I'm driving 3,400 miles from Michigan to Montana and back in the next few weeks. Might as well bought a fucking plane ticket gas is so much.
 
I still contest that the use of hydrogen fuel cells would be the most reasonable source of power considering the only byproduct is water, and hydrogen is the most abundant gas in the universe. Also, Honda has already produced a car that runs using a hydrogen fuel cell and it is or soon will be sold in California.

If you think about it, burning decomposed and compressed plant and animal matter for a source of energy is a rather primitive means to attain energy. It's sad that people like the OP don't see how negatively this process effects the planet we live on. And before you call me an eco-hippie environmentalist, I'm not. I drive a 3.8 L v6. But, I am a person who realizes that our planet is a rarity and a home to many forms of life and we are knowingly helping to destroy it for the short-term monetary gain.
 
i think it all has to do with the gas companies wanting more and more money. They will use any excuse to jack up the gas prices, prices usually dont drop until people actually start to buy less gas then before, and as long as prices slowly go then it'll go unnoticed.
 
Well considering oil is a very finite resource, one that people use for many applications and value, along with the fact that we are using it at a rate that will cause us to run out of most viable sources in less than 50 years, I would say that the price of oil is generally going to go up.
Of course we all know that using oil has a greater negative effect than increasing our dependence on it, and in my opinion we should hop off this resources dick as soon as possible, no matter when the source is going to run out.
I don't own a car, and my opinion could change if I ever do, but I love seeing the price of gas go up; in my mind it makes the price more accurate to the full cost of using it.
It may even be true that we need to keep using oil to maintain or increase our 'quality of life' but the way I see it, we've been using extra energy that is not sustainable. Ever since we used more energy than the sun gave us in one year (sometime in the 80's or 90's) we have been living in a dream world than cannot continue. Maybe we don't all deserve to have a car, or to travel. The problem is that everyone feels so damn entitled to these things, because if the guy beside me gets all this cool shit why shouldn't I. Pretty lame if you ask me.
Consuming =/= contentment.
Sparknotes: Yes.
 
has some true points. we also have (how wrong that sounds) to be fucking lucky that there are horribly poor countries which do not have too many factories or traffic.

we definitely have to recheck our energy consumption on a more general level. like being more responsible with power at your own household, not drive somewhere just for the sake of it and so on. if everyone helps a little, we might be able to do something good.

as long as we cant provide our hunger for energy with RENEWABLE resources (which we already could if we invested as much research into alternative energy as we did into oil/gas/coal/nuclear energy) we will have a problem at some point, BY FUCKING DEFINITION.

some people in here probably dont care enough about their future children or grandchildren.

 
Kinda depends what you mean by "Down". We could get prices like the late 90's again but it wont get much cheaper, unless we open up more drilling in alaska and it turns out that there is like a shit ton over there. But the chances of that are slim. I think it is much more probable that we will have a new fuel in the next decade.
 
fuck that, i was born and raised in alaska. If you have ever seen where they want to drill its flat, tundra, full of mosquitos and in the middle of god damn no where. the natives want to drill, the alaskans want to drill, its the people on the east coast that are saying exactly what you just said. the technology that is now available the footprint that would be left would be less than 1% of all of ANWR. moose and caribou already wander through the drill sites that are already in use, unhindered. And there is still the NPRA (national petroleum reserve alaska) that is a fucking petroleum reserve for gods sake, the places they want to drill are so remote that you really cant even drive there, you would have to be flown in. its not like the majestic beauty would be forever lost if they drilled for oil in new places, there already drilling and have an 800 mile pipeline thats been in use for 35 years.
 
I think cars are always going to be fossil fueled at least in our lifetimes. What i forsee happening is that Oil will get real expensive 300 a barrel? and in response cars will become much more fuel efficent.
 
i mean when you look at the crazy development in communication technology (smartphons, internet, ...) over the last 20-30 years, you cannot possibly understand why electric or at least hybrid cars (both invented around 1900) are not already the main standard.

if its not for some people blocking that development obviously

 
There is plenty of oil. The problem is not a shortage of oil! The price you see now has nothing to do with supply/demand.... It's speculators in the markets predicting volatility in supply in the future due to political instability in oil producing regions.
 
Probably not, here's why.

There is a lot of evidence to suggest that we've already hit peak oil.

Along with cigarettes, it's not something most government of the world with cut taxes from.

It's more difficult for oil companies to find and extract the resource (more expensive).

The number of cars sold in India and China has exploded in the past 12 years.

Iran is the 4th largest oil producing country in the world, extracting more oil than Canada, Brazil, the E.U., and even China.
 
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