Wildcat 108 vs Deathwish 104

[askmeabtgripwalk]

Yo whatup, I'm looking for a new inbounds ski around 105mm underfoot and the two skis in the title seemed like the obvious choices from Moment.

I have and love a pair of last year's (full size) Wildcats. Super stiff and stable for going big and fast in the backcountry but for inbounds I'm looking for a less stiff more "playful" ski that can still stomp and is stable at speed. Anyone have an opinion one way or another?

Thanks!

P.s. NOT looking to make the mountain my playground so miss me with that shit lol

 

[TournevisRond]

But what about gripwalk?

 

[askmeabtgripwalk]

But what about gripwalk?

It's good check it out

 

[FaunaSkis]

Our Pioneer in a true length 184cm honestly sounds like it could be what you’re after. They’re a lighter, nimble, more playful, little flexier in the tip & tail but still stiff through the camber, version of the Wildcat, or so Blister said in their comparison.

Ps Don’t sleep on our NS deal if you’re keen.

 

[jake.jensen.9674]

Bumping this thread . Anyone got info on how the 104 DW is going to compare to reg DW compared to wildcat 108? I have exit worlds (old wildcat tour) love them, skied some wc108s and thought they were underwhelming and kinda flat compared to the DW, DWT, and exit worlds I own. Essentially want to know of the DW 104 is going to be a playful low tide ripper to replace my pbj or a stiff stuffy charger for hard dry days.

 

[jake.jensen.9674]

Bumping this thread . Anyone got info on how the 104 DW is going to compare to reg DW compared to wildcat 108? I have exit worlds (old wildcat tour) love them, skied some wc108s and thought they were underwhelming and kinda flat compared to the DW, DWT, and exit worlds I own. Essentially want to know of the DW 104 is going to be a playful low tide ripper to replace my pbj or a stiff stuffy charger for hard dry days.

From a moment ambassador : Keeping in mind the expansion and assertion of our model line - since it's inception, The Deathwishes are going to be softer than previous years. That being said, The 104 is there to blur the line between on piste and off piste all mountain and will be a tad beefier and stable compared to the OG DW 112. Think the OG Deathwish construction unchanged and compressed into a more narrow package. It will do well in a wide range of conditions, hard pack included. I wouldn't categorize it as a charger - I would call it an agile workhorse. Those that look to the original deathwish as a ski to take when you dont want to think about what to grab from your quiver will welcome the 104 with open arms to those same conditions with a less focus on soft or deeper conditions and will find it to be just as playful while being quicker on the toes and snappier response. The 104 is a great replacement for the pbj. The wc 108 is better for chutes and big open zones (baldy at snowbird) with the DW 104 better for trees (gad2)

**This post was edited on Oct 10th 2021 at 3:18:29pm

 

[jake.jensen.9674]

Yo whatup, I'm looking for a new inbounds ski around 105mm underfoot and the two skis in the title seemed like the obvious choices from Moment.

I have and love a pair of last year's (full size) Wildcats. Super stiff and stable for going big and fast in the backcountry but for inbounds I'm looking for a less stiff more "playful" ski that can still stomp and is stable at speed. Anyone have an opinion one way or another?

Thanks!

P.s. NOT looking to make the mountain my playground so miss me with that shit lol

Get the DW 104

 

[Cwatt0]

Yo whatup, I'm looking for a new inbounds ski around 105mm underfoot and the two skis in the title seemed like the obvious choices from Moment.

I have and love a pair of last year's (full size) Wildcats. Super stiff and stable for going big and fast in the backcountry but for inbounds I'm looking for a less stiff more "playful" ski that can still stomp and is stable at speed. Anyone have an opinion one way or another?

Thanks!

P.s. NOT looking to make the mountain my playground so miss me with that shit lol

According to the Blister interview, the Wildcat is going to be stiffer in the tips and tails compared to the Deathwish, likely because it already has the early-rise so it doesn’t need to worry about digging your tips in. The Deathwish is going to be softer in the tips (likely to allow them to ride-up/over snow). That said, the Deathwish is going to be more of a carver with its triple camber whereas the Wildcat is gong to be more playful and ‘surfy’ due to its ‘moustache rocker’

 

[hot.pocket]

From a moment ambassador : Keeping in mind the expansion and assertion of our model line - since it's inception, The Deathwishes are going to be softer than previous years. That being said, The 104 is there to blur the line between on piste and off piste all mountain and will be a tad beefier and stable compared to the OG DW 112. Think the OG Deathwish construction unchanged and compressed into a more narrow package. It will do well in a wide range of conditions, hard pack included. I wouldn't categorize it as a charger - I would call it an agile workhorse. Those that look to the original deathwish as a ski to take when you dont want to think about what to grab from your quiver will welcome the 104 with open arms to those same conditions with a less focus on soft or deeper conditions and will find it to be just as playful while being quicker on the toes and snappier response. The 104 is a great replacement for the pbj. The wc 108 is better for chutes and big open zones (baldy at snowbird) with the DW 104 better for trees (gad2)

**This post was edited on Oct 10th 2021 at 3:18:29pm

Who'd you talk to, if you remember?

 

[hot.pocket]

From a moment ambassador : Keeping in mind the expansion and assertion of our model line - since it's inception, The Deathwishes are going to be softer than previous years.

Deathwish has been stiffened up compared to the previous versions. The 104 is also stiffer (and damper) than the 112 by a good amount.

That being said, The 104 is there to blur the line between on piste and off piste all mountain and will be a tad beefier and stable compared to the OG DW 112. Think the OG Deathwish construction unchanged and compressed into a more narrow package. It will do well in a wide range of conditions, hard pack included. I wouldn't categorize it as a charger - I would call it an agile workhorse. Those that look to the original deathwish as a ski to take when you dont want to think about what to grab from your quiver will welcome the 104 with open arms to those same conditions with a less focus on soft or deeper conditions and will find it to be just as playful while being quicker on the toes and snappier response.

This is more or less correct.

The 104 is a great replacement for the pbj. The wc 108 is better for chutes and big open zones (baldy at snowbird) with the DW 104 better for trees (gad2)

This is wrong. The Wildcat 101 is a direct replacement for the PB&J and the Deathwish 104 is a pretty different ski. Generally the Deathwish 104 is better in icy chutes and sketchy conditions while the Wildcat 108 will be more maneuverable and poppy for tight trees. The Deathwish 104 can be driven harder and will provide better edge grip and stability while the Wildcat 108 will be more poppy and playful and easier to pivot / throw sideways.

Would still love to know who you talked to, a very select few people outside of our immediate employee base have put any kind of substantial time on the Deathwish 104.