in my opinion (and it is just that, an opinion) all panic songs sound the same, all their jams sound the same, you cant tell what the hell john bell is singing, and basically (again just my opinion) theyve been playing one big endless song for their entire career. now, dont get me wrong, i do enjoy listening to them occasionally (i actually really like the song "pickin up the pieces"), but if i listen to too much, it all starts sounding the same. in terms of "jam bands" i would take phish or the dead any day of the week. of course, schools is the man, and sunny ortiz is pretty sweet too. guess theyre just not my cup' o tea