Why not to Poach a Closed Park

MacMahoooon

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Repost Yes, but this is in retaliation to why we as patrollers get so pissed when you poach closed parks and run. Theres usually a reason for it. This guy got lucky.

World's Luckiest Snowboarder

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was about 30min before I got to work that night. They let the guy go cause he was so freaked out he could barely walk after that. I'm just glad I didn't have to clean it up if it went worse
 
Edelweiss Valley, just outside Ottawa, Canada.

The conditions were solid too from a thaw/freeze the night before, groomer was trying to track it out enough to get the tiller into it and soften it up. No idea why the guy thought it was a good idea to poach it
 
We had someone around here at Camelback that poached a trail and ended up hitting a tree. Concussion, massive internal trauma, and got up and wandered into the woods. He was found the next day dead, he bled out. Sucks, but you can't go making stupid calls like that
 
i was just thinking that same thing.. haha!! so random that they would be filmin this.. ne ways.. this guy was really lucky!!!
 
and to add to this thread, and something i've been using this season to give an example of why the industry insurance rates keep climbing, you've got this guy, and thousands like him at every resort that can't make decisions for themselves, or make the right decisions...

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ive seen someone hit by a snowcat at my local hill, that shits rediculous. When the park is closed, its usually for a good reason, give the park crew a break and let them finish working before all of their hard work is ruined
 
i am the event coordinator at my local mountain along with a park and pipe crew member and i can recall countless times when we close a feature to fix the take off or bombholes and almost get our heads chopped off by people hitting the corner of the lip as a jump..I also remember a kind going off a closed feature to find a big whole behind it where the rail used to be..death cookie central haha...it made my day...
 
wow that would have been so bad i cant even imagine. i dont understand why someone would poach the park like that. i mean i could see like if the lower part was closed for a comp and people were hiking a rail... but not that
 
You shouldn't say poaching period is stupid because i do it all the time if its safe. Call me crazy but poaching can be done safely. I always check something out before i hit it if its closed off. I guess i only really ever poach because in Ontario jumps are often closed for no reason.
I see where your coming from for the ski patrol though. That guy was also a complete retard, how can you not notice theirs a fucking cat on the landing?
 
That may work where you are, but poaching out here can get you killed. Literally.

It's not that hard to respect closures, just go find something else to do. Patrol/park crew/management/whatever isn't going to take the time to rope off a section of the mountain just for fun, there has to be a good reason to put forth that much work to keep people out of an area.
 
Yeah, i definitely respect the mountain a lot more when i go out west. Where i live there really is no serious natural danger. The patrol in southern ontario really is horrible. Many of them can barely ski, its insane.

I see where your coming from if your talking about out west though. Shit really is crazy.
 
Anybody realize how fake this is? It is just like how fatman did the jumps in his edit, one clip on top of the other, the guy would not ride away from something like that especially if he was 'To scared to walk' and in the other thread the guy didn't mention ever getting stopped by patrol...
 
I think hes talking about the guy that hit the jump. I dont see why you feel the need to hit it that bad. guy is fucking lucky.
 
The dude didn't even stop to look at what was happening on the landing, what an idiot...

...you should always check ur landing before going for a jump, last year i woulda taken out like 5 snowboarders if i didn't, they were all just lazing about on the landing.

A canadian guy that used to work at the shop i'm at told me about a dude he knows that went over a jump and a snowboarder was sitting below it, the dudewas spinning in the air and clipped the boarders bingind...broke it in half...

anyway that's my 5 cents
 
After working at a resort for a year, I am 100% agree that following the rules is so much better for everyone. There is almost always a reason that the rules are in place, and it's not some kind of "submit to authority" thing...the rules are usually there to keep people safe.
 
This happened at my home mountain aswell. some marine poached the closed park his last day before deployment to iraq and went off a decent table and smashed into the cat that was grooming, breaking his femur. The guy is suing now for tens of thousands.

My family is good friends with the owner of the mountain and he thinks the accident saved the marines life since he wont be deployed back to Iraq any time soon because of the injury.
 
I ski at Edelweiss valley, I had no clue that video was EV.

That jump is completely blind when you hit it, the jump itself is on top of a knoll where the pitch of the slope changes for the landing, it's a really hard jump to judge speed on because 1/2 the time you'll either overshoot or undershoot, whence my broken wrist.
 
I know this is a serious thread....... and i couldnt agree more kids get all bum hurt at our mt cause rangers mark stuff off when its icy. there's reasons for it and its usually in your best interest.

but this thread reminded me of.........

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One time at Holiday Valley in NY, I kept hitting the pipe, and riding the lift each time. Well the last time, they had closed the pipe from one of the entrances, not the entrance that I was going through, so I had no idea it was "closed". It was just a big trap! There were a bunch of lame "safety patrollers" waiting at the bottom by the lift for people that went into the pipe (from the side that was clearly not marked as closed). I couldn't believe it. They took my pass, and I was scared because I was an instructor there at the time. If it had been more uphill, I probably would have skied away, those guys can barely ski. When I went to meet with my supervisor the next day about getting my pass back, he basically handed it back to me and was like "yea that was a bunch of bullshit".

I respect closures completely, but if things are going to be closed they need to make it clear! And not just make it a trap.
 
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