Why girls seem to lead guys on, every single time

its so easy man just show interest then ignore them then have good dick game.

also Stop acting like she's doing something wrong by choosing not to have sex with you as if she owed it to you. Thats rape-ey as fuck

overall don't be a creep also don't fucking bite the whole friggin hook off when she tosses you a wom just give er a nibble and chill for a while so she starts wondering you didn't respond as much to her first little flirtations and starts thinking maybe you arent a bitch ass like she originally thought
 
Just do what I casually told my mother when she asked me about me and girls when I was in high school. This will get you everywhere in life:

"I just tell them what they want to hear."
 
13761662:californiagrown said:
Yikes. That kind of low self esteem wafes off of you and attracts the kinda guys looking for a chick they can treat like shit.

If you were as ugly as ming you'd have a low self esteem too!!
 
13761919:Mingg said:
If you were as ugly as ming you'd have a low self esteem too!!

I'll be the judge of that. And I have no idea what she looks like. And it's always sexy when a lady plays a sport or has an athletic hobby.
 
probably because you're beta as fuck and spend your time bitching about girls online rather than growing the fuck up and working on your own personal flaws.
 
1. Be nice to girls, get to know them. Appreciate them for who they are. Don't act like their boyfriend if you aren't, just act like a person, or a friend. Know what sort of person you can date, and what you are looking for in a relationship. Temper your emotions and don't obsess over of idolize someone before you get to know them, it's a waste of time and emotional energy. When you find one you like more than others, move on to step two:

2. If you are looking for a relationship, say so. Be upfront, and clear. Make the first move. "Would you like to grab some coffee sometime" or "I'd like to take you out for dinner." None of this pickup line BS. None of this "Hey, you like, uh, wanna hang out some time" BS. If she says no, no love lost. If she says yes, move on to step three:

3. Get to know her in a romantic context over the course of several dates. Don't over commit with big gestures or physical stuff right off the bat, that's a sure way to rush into things and make the breakup shitty if it's not right. Be a man, decide what you're going to do, and treat her to a good, casual time. It doesn't have to be fancy, it doesn't have to be perfect, and it's not going to be like "the movies" so temper your expectations.

4. If step 3 goes well, express what you're looking for in a relationship. See if she wants the same things. If not, part ways.

Do you see the common thread? You're being led on because you are over-committing emotionally, and probably materially, and you're not taking the lead and being clear with what you want in a relationship. I rarely see guys getting "led on" that are courteous but direct, mostly because they remove the ability for that to happen.

And again - if she says no, it's not a big deal. Life goes on, without any drama. Doesn't that sound great?

/midnight advice
 
13764770:TWoods said:
1. Be nice to girls, get to know them. Appreciate them for who they are. Don't act like their boyfriend if you aren't, just act like a person, or a friend. Know what sort of person you can date, and what you are looking for in a relationship. Temper your emotions and don't obsess over of idolize someone before you get to know them, it's a waste of time and emotional energy. When you find one you like more than others, move on to step two:

2. If you are looking for a relationship, say so. Be upfront, and clear. Make the first move. "Would you like to grab some coffee sometime" or "I'd like to take you out for dinner." None of this pickup line BS. None of this "Hey, you like, uh, wanna hang out some time" BS. If she says no, no love lost. If she says yes, move on to step three:

3. Get to know her in a romantic context over the course of several dates. Don't over commit with big gestures or physical stuff right off the bat, that's a sure way to rush into things and make the breakup shitty if it's not right. Be a man, decide what you're going to do, and treat her to a good, casual time. It doesn't have to be fancy, it doesn't have to be perfect, and it's not going to be like "the movies" so temper your expectations.

4. If step 3 goes well, express what you're looking for in a relationship. See if she wants the same things. If not, part ways.

Do you see the common thread? You're being led on because you are over-committing emotionally, and probably materially, and you're not taking the lead and being clear with what you want in a relationship. I rarely see guys getting "led on" that are courteous but direct, mostly because they remove the ability for that to happen.

And again - if she says no, it's not a big deal. Life goes on, without any drama. Doesn't that sound great?

/midnight advice

Wow who are you
 
13764770:TWoods said:
I rarely see guys getting "led on" that are courteous but direct.

Really, this approach works in any context, whether you're just looking to get you dick wet at a bar, or see a gorgeous lady at an REI workshop and want a date with her.

Be extremely nice and respectful, but be very upfront as well. If she says no, you gave her a compliment and know you had the balls to ask. If she says she is taken, say "lucky guy", and if you see her down the road and she is single again, you left a damn good impression.

Communication is the key to all relationships. Be upfront and honest, and you will magically "be treated better".
 
13764930:californiagrown said:
Really, this approach works in any context, whether you're just looking to get you dick wet at a bar, or see a gorgeous lady at an REI workshop and want a date with her.

Be extremely nice and respectful, but be very upfront as well. If she says no, you gave her a compliment and know you had the balls to ask. If she says she is taken, say "lucky guy", and if you see her down the road and she is single again, you left a damn good impression.

Communication is the key to all relationships. Be upfront and honest, and you will magically "be treated better".

Didn't know doctor love lived on ns
 
13761749:roach1324 said:
also Stop acting like she's doing something wrong by choosing not to have sex with you as if she owed it to you. Thats rape-ey as fuck

The exact reason I always pay for myself on a date and cut it off when I feel a guilt trip coming. I don't owe them sex as much as they don't owe me attention. If someone doesn't want to go further, cut your losses and try to see the bright side that you didn't get fucked over after wasting more time than you needed to. It sucks to get led on, but nothing sucks more than dwelling on all the deals you didn't close. That kind of shit ruins your future chances, don't do that to yourself or someone cool who might come along.
 
13764770:TWoods said:
1. Be nice to girls, get to know them. Appreciate them for who they are. Don't act like their boyfriend if you aren't, just act like a person, or a friend. Know what sort of person you can date, and what you are looking for in a relationship. Temper your emotions and don't obsess over of idolize someone before you get to know them, it's a waste of time and emotional energy. When you find one you like more than others, move on to step two:

2. If you are looking for a relationship, say so. Be upfront, and clear. Make the first move. "Would you like to grab some coffee sometime" or "I'd like to take you out for dinner." None of this pickup line BS. None of this "Hey, you like, uh, wanna hang out some time" BS. If she says no, no love lost. If she says yes, move on to step three:

3. Get to know her in a romantic context over the course of several dates. Don't over commit with big gestures or physical stuff right off the bat, that's a sure way to rush into things and make the breakup shitty if it's not right. Be a man, decide what you're going to do, and treat her to a good, casual time. It doesn't have to be fancy, it doesn't have to be perfect, and it's not going to be like "the movies" so temper your expectations.

4. If step 3 goes well, express what you're looking for in a relationship. See if she wants the same things. If not, part ways.

Do you see the common thread? You're being led on because you are over-committing emotionally, and probably materially, and you're not taking the lead and being clear with what you want in a relationship. I rarely see guys getting "led on" that are courteous but direct, mostly because they remove the ability for that to happen.

And again - if she says no, it's not a big deal. Life goes on, without any drama. Doesn't that sound great?

/midnight advice

This is absolutely spot on. Amazing advice
 
13764883:taylornicky said:
No duh i meant it as if no guy ever recognizes what he was explaining

It's because "guys" these days, for a number of reasons, are afraid of being men.

It's everyone's fault. Society, parents, educational system, postmodern philosophy. It's hard to "recognize" these things as men because the odds are stacked against us; we're told that exhibiting genuinely (as apposed to "traditionally" or "stereotypically, must make that distinction) is somehow a problem, something that should be suppressed if you want to be a good person.

Well, suppress manhood and what do you get? BOYS!
 
13765696:SkierBetch said:
The exact reason I always pay for myself on a date and cut it off when I feel a guilt trip coming. I don't owe them sex as much as they don't owe me attention. If someone doesn't want to go further, cut your losses and try to see the bright side that you didn't get fucked over after wasting more time than you needed to. It sucks to get led on, but nothing sucks more than dwelling on all the deals you didn't close. That kind of shit ruins your future chances, don't do that to yourself or someone cool who might come along.

You should stop paying for yourself on dates, and instead buy some pepper spray.

Then, when they expect sex at the end of the evening, you can quickly eliminate them from the running, as it were. A real man should be able to spend money on a woman because he wants to be courteous. Expecting sex after a meal means that he thinks you're a cheap prostitute.

If he gets uppity mace the shit out of him. He deserves it for treating you that way.
 
13769348:TWoods said:
You should stop paying for yourself on dates, and instead buy some pepper spray.

Then, when they expect sex at the end of the evening, you can quickly eliminate them from the running, as it were. A real man should be able to spend money on a woman because he wants to be courteous. Expecting sex after a meal means that he thinks you're a cheap prostitute.

If he gets uppity mace the shit out of him. He deserves it for treating you that way.

Oh come on, they could at least think I'm an expensive prostitute XD

Nah but thanks, I'm kinda sick of everybody's crap and gave up on dates with people. I'll start cutting people off quicker the second they get douchey. I don't have time for that shit... I have time and effort for someone who deserves it, that would be decent.
 
brutha move on

dont waste ur time trying to get one chick, they r all just fucking whores

like with me, when i go out im just always trying to rotate girls as much as possible

its a numbers game

i just go up to a chick and say "hey baby girls, how old are you, where are you from, and does your pussy hang outside your pants or is that shit all sucked up inside"?
 
13769348:TWoods said:
You should stop paying for yourself on dates, and instead buy some pepper spray.

Then, when they expect sex at the end of the evening, you can quickly eliminate them from the running, as it were. A real man should be able to spend money on a woman because he wants to be courteous. Expecting sex after a meal means that he thinks you're a cheap prostitute.

If he gets uppity mace the shit out of him. He deserves it for treating you that way.

My personal opinion:

I had a friend once who was like "how can you afford so many dates??" and then I asked how that would be a problem and he said "well, each date is like 30$ right? Drinks for 2?". Shit is not even remotely "on" until you have had sex and it is proven you can stand each other for 1 hour for at least 2 times. Then feel free to do as you wish.
 
At the same time for god sakes your attitude is about as self defeating as it gets. Its ok I was a piece of shit just like you at one point, but I turned it all around

Vandersteeze's guide to getting girls

-Have a purpose that is other than having sex so that when a girl blows you off (or cheats on you, or whatever) you dont give a shit

-Always have an awesome positive vibe about everything by going to the gym, fixing your diet and meditating

-Start talking to everyone just about whatever and become more social so that when the pretty girl comes in the room its just like talking to another person

-Dont be a fucking wierdo when you are talking to her (takes a lot of practice, but just casually date, this comes by being more social, until you figured it out)

If you follow these steps hopefully you will look in life's rearview mirror and one day realize how retarded this attitude of yours is
 
13769849:vandersteeze said:
At the same time for god sakes your attitude is about as self defeating as it gets. Its ok I was a piece of shit just like you at one point, but I turned it all around

Vandersteeze's guide to getting girls

-Have a purpose that is other than having sex so that when a girl blows you off (or cheats on you, or whatever) you dont give a shit

-Always have an awesome positive vibe about everything by going to the gym, fixing your diet and meditating

-Start talking to everyone just about whatever and become more social so that when the pretty girl comes in the room its just like talking to another person

-Dont be a fucking wierdo when you are talking to her (takes a lot of practice, but just casually date, this comes by being more social, until you figured it out)

If you follow these steps hopefully you will look in life's rearview mirror and one day realize how retarded this attitude of yours is

brutha u r overthinking it way too much

it's just about getting ur nut off dog

stop trying to always go for the hottest chicks, its a numbers game. hooking up with a fat chick is hella better than having dry dick
 
13769851:doublecup said:
brutha u r overthinking it way too much

it's just about getting ur nut off dog

stop trying to always go for the hottest chicks, its a numbers game. hooking up with a fat chick is hella better than having dry dick

damn that sucks dude.
 
13769851:doublecup said:
brutha u r overthinking it way too much

it's just about getting ur nut off dog

stop trying to always go for the hottest chicks, its a numbers game. hooking up with a fat chick is hella better than having dry dick

this isn't even a fun persona to read. you're shitty at posting and even worse at getting girls.
 
13770207:Bill.Nye said:
OP is thirsty as Bear Grylls drinking his own piss.

Johnny Appleseed is a FAKE

he has never drank no piss, that guy is such bullshit

Les Stroud is the only real survivor tv show guy
 
13769653:doublecup said:
brutha move on

dont waste ur time trying to get one chick, they r all just fucking whores

like with me, when i go out im just always trying to rotate girls as much as possible

its a numbers game

i just go up to a chick and say "hey baby girls, how old are you, where are you from, and does your pussy hang outside your pants or is that shit all sucked up inside"?

13769848:doublecup said:
here are my four steps:

I find you

I lurk you

I fuck you

I block you

13769851:doublecup said:
brutha u r overthinking it way too much

it's just about getting ur nut off dog

stop trying to always go for the hottest chicks, its a numbers game. hooking up with a fat chick is hella better than having dry dick

13770352:doublecup said:
Johnny Appleseed is a FAKE

he has never drank no piss, that guy is such bullshit

Les Stroud is the only real survivor tv show guy

Basically, don't be a try hard with a girl like this guy is a try hard in this thread.

It does't work. Double cup is the perfect example.

If your always texting (quoting) a girl (other members in thread) your going to seem clingy and will become irrelevant (as demonstrated by Doublecup)
 
Guys know if they want to bang a girl before they even talk to her. Its basically predetermined. Even her being dull as a bag of rocks or mean and a bitch won't change that the dude will go home with her.

With women its different. You are always just a 'maybe' and being judged against every other guy she knows and for everything. And remember women change their minds and little mind games can make a big difference in how much they like you. You also really don't want to impress them early on because things can only go downhill from there.

The exception to this are the type of girls who date a guy for 2 years are single for a week or two and then get another 2 year bf. Be nice and commit to this kind of girl if you meet one the other type is hard work. Remember monogamy is the most important thing to them. I've been stupid recently with 2 girls like this and pushed them away too early on. A couple of weeks later I could have done whatever I wanted and it would have lasted a year or two. It was dumb to not realize I had met someone who would commit to me.
 
13769649:SkierBetch said:
Oh come on, they could at least think I'm an expensive prostitute XD

Nah but thanks, I'm kinda sick of everybody's crap and gave up on dates with people. I'll start cutting people off quicker the second they get douchey. I don't have time for that shit... I have time and effort for someone who deserves it, that would be decent.

Or, just try and enjoy the person for who they are... If you can't find douchey folks at least entertaining for an hour you sound boring. Find the funny in life, and find out why each date is an interesting person.

And for goodness sake of course the guy wants to fuck you after the first date... That's the WHOLE reason he wanted to take you out and get to know you lol
 
13771171:californiagrown said:
Or, just try and enjoy the person for who they are... If you can't find douchey folks at least entertaining for an hour you sound boring. Find the funny in life, and find out why each date is an interesting person.

And for goodness sake of course the guy wants to fuck you after the first date... That's the WHOLE reason he wanted to take you out and get to know you lol

There is nothing worse than when you meet someone for a date and they are fat and gross and dumb. I would assume its 10x worse for women. Its happened to me before and I was pissed off. And if your a girl being nice and friendly will just let the creepy guy think he has a shot which isn't always a good idea. The other thing is there are a lot of people who look old for their age. Its not uncommon to have someones number from being blacked out and think shell look good and she says she is 25 but looks 35. Basically just a lot of fucked up people out there.

Hot girls have standards just a part of life. Most don't really respond well to kindness either. If we are talking about someone you just met trust me she will not respond a text like 'you're so pretty and nice' but if you text something like 'why are you being such a bitch' you will get an 'im so sorry didn't mean it was busy etc etc' response. Compliments will just make her uncomfortable.
 
13771178:PeppermillReno said:
There is nothing worse than when you meet someone for a date and they are fat and gross and dumb. I would assume its 10x worse for women. Its happened to me before and I was pissed off. And if your a girl being nice and friendly will just let the creepy guy think he has a shot which isn't always a good idea. The other thing is there are a lot of people who look old for their age. Its not uncommon to have someones number from being blacked out and think shell look good and she says she is 25 but looks 35. Basically just a lot of fucked up people out there.

Hot girls have standards just a part of life. Most don't really respond well to kindness either. If we are talking about someone you just met trust me she will not respond a text like 'you're so pretty and nice' but if you text something like 'why are you being such a bitch' you will get an 'im so sorry didn't mean it was busy etc etc' response. Compliments will just make her uncomfortable.

Nah. I've found being extremely nice, confident, and very forward works best.

"Being a dick" only works because dicks are forward. And it only works on the dumb ones with issues. Forward works well with everyone if you are also a polite, funny sweetheart.

And why the fuck are you agreeing to dates with fat ugly people? Lol
 
13771171:californiagrown said:
Or, just try and enjoy the person for who they are... If you can't find douchey folks at least entertaining for an hour you sound boring. Find the funny in life, and find out why each date is an interesting person.

And for goodness sake of course the guy wants to fuck you after the first date... That's the WHOLE reason he wanted to take you out and get to know you lol

You've never gone out on a date and it turns out the person you picked up was someone you just didn't like?

Shit happens, sometimes you don't like them, that's fine I'll still give someone the benefit of the doubt. I had one guy a few months ago who I got along with on the date, but I just didn't like him after. He wasn't a bad person I just didn't really like him, I tried, kept talking, but yea I'm not going to put that much effort for that. If I don't like someone after a 3hr date, can't enjoy them after continuing to talk, I sure as shit won't put out for that. And I won't waste their time either, there's other people they could be seeing too, if it doesn't work, oh well.

Getting to know someone first is better than expecting sex without knowing them. Get to know them, like them, yea sure whatever. But fucking after the first date sounds like a way to end up with a Stage 5 clinger that you can't get rid of. Lucky for me, I spotted the last potential clinger before it even got close to a situation.
 
Don't waste your time OP. And if you do, use TWoods as your mentor. I have been lead to the moon and back, and the only thing I received was a lonely, broken heart.
 
13771188:californiagrown said:
Nah. I've found being extremely nice, confident, and very forward works best.

"Being a dick" only works because dicks are forward. And it only works on the dumb ones with issues. Forward works well with everyone if you are also a polite, funny sweetheart.

And why the fuck are you agreeing to dates with fat ugly people? Lol

Dude when you live in the Reno casinos for months at a time you gotta take whatever dates you can get....lol. I actually have never used online dating at home its only been on travels but you honestly can't tell some of the best looking people honestly didn't have good profile pics it can be worth taking a chance. I have really really bad memory loss when I drink too which is weird because I don't get hungover but I've woken up next to people I don't remember meeting at all and have phone numbers or texts I don't remember its hard to not let curiosity get the better of you. The 2nd date when you can't remember meeting them usually doesn't go well in some cases its been good looking women who live in 2 million dollar spots too they are just whacked in the head.

This thread is about being led on and clearly a stage where you have just met someone and gotten a number but aren't exactly living together or in a relationship. Just saying 4 hours to respond to a text instead of 4 seconds can be a good idea. An immediate response can turn people off. Just saying what works don't be too nice in that stage.

If you get out of that stage and want to be with someone and its mutual treat them well and don't be a dick of course.
 
13771189:SkierBetch said:
You've never gone out on a date and it turns out the person you picked up was someone you just didn't like?

Shit happens, sometimes you don't like them, that's fine I'll still give someone the benefit of the doubt. I had one guy a few months ago who I got along with on the date, but I just didn't like him after. He wasn't a bad person I just didn't really like him, I tried, kept talking, but yea I'm not going to put that much effort for that. If I don't like someone after a 3hr date, can't enjoy them after continuing to talk, I sure as shit won't put out for that. And I won't waste their time either, there's other people they could be seeing too, if it doesn't work, oh well.

Getting to know someone first is better than expecting sex without knowing them. Get to know them, like them, yea sure whatever. But fucking after the first date sounds like a way to end up with a Stage 5 clinger that you can't get rid of. Lucky for me, I spotted the last potential clinger before it even got close to a situation.

So, what's your dating problem? Seems like you have it figured out.

Or do you expect everyday to be handsome charming, funny and sweet? And are dissapointing when they aren't?
 
13771224:PeppermillReno said:
Dude when you live in the Reno casinos for months at a time you gotta take whatever dates you can get....lol. I actually have never used online dating at home its only been on travels but you honestly can't tell some of the best looking people honestly didn't have good profile pics it can be worth taking a chance. I have really really bad memory loss when I drink too which is weird because I don't get hungover but I've woken up next to people I don't remember meeting at all and have phone numbers or texts I don't remember its hard to not let curiosity get the better of you. The 2nd date when you can't remember meeting them usually doesn't go well in some cases its been good looking women who live in 2 million dollar spots too they are just whacked in the head.

This thread is about being led on and clearly a stage where you have just met someone and gotten a number but aren't exactly living together or in a relationship. Just saying 4 hours to respond to a text instead of 4 seconds can be a good idea. An immediate response can turn people off. Just saying what works don't be too nice in that stage.

If you get out of that stage and want to be with someone and its mutual treat them well and don't be a dick of course.

Waiting 4 hours works because it implies you are actually busy and have stuff going on in your life... which makes you interesting, cool, and not boring.

It's real fucking easy to see through that facade if you are just waiting 4 hours as part of "the game".

Again, I've found it much easier to just be honest with your actions and words. If you don't play games she likely won't. If she does, let her know you aren't really into that... If you are just tryna fuck then women who play games are likely leading on 5+ men at the same time and you're just her Tuesday date.

But really, why do people message so much before asking out on a date? It doesn't make sense to me. You don't get to know someone by texting, you get to know them by talking and seeing how mentally quick they are, what their body language is like etc.

PS I'm sorry you had to live in Reno casinos... Shudder. No me gusta.
 
13771257:californiagrown said:
Waiting 4 hours works because it implies you are actually busy and have stuff going on in your life... which makes you interesting, cool, and not boring.

It's real fucking easy to see through that facade if you are just waiting 4 hours as part of "the game".

Again, I've found it much easier to just be honest with your actions and words. If you don't play games she likely won't. If she does, let her know you aren't really into that... If you are just tryna fuck then women who play games are likely leading on 5+ men at the same time and you're just her Tuesday date.

But really, why do people message so much before asking out on a date? It doesn't make sense to me. You don't get to know someone by texting, you get to know them by talking and seeing how mentally quick they are, what their body language is like etc.

PS I'm sorry you had to live in Reno casinos... Shudder. No me gusta.

Well what you are complaining about is the spirit of this thread. Being expected to send a million texts and seem cool in them is hard.

Living in the casinos was cool needed some 'me' time. I've spent probably 500 nights in my life in Nevada and never slept in my car. Good times wish I was there right now little powder skiing crushing college basketball bets winter golf free booze etc etc etc very happy memories. Will return in March for my NCAA tournament trip with some skiing and golf mixed in. I like my house and all that but I really miss Reno. I know how to talk my way into a free suite upgrade at all the good hotels with a 5-10 dollar tip too rooms were always on point.
 
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