Why do they care

clindblomskier

clindblomskier

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Was scoping a drop today that is 15 feet off of the slope and was yelled at by salty boomer “mountain guide” guy from the lift and was threatened with a pass pull. Total bs. Can someone give me insight on why these people care so damn much about skiing out of bounds
 
If you're talking about Snowshoe, I get it. I almost made a thread about why ski resorts don't expand their terrain into the trees. Many resorts out west and in New England have a very liberal policy for inbounds skiing so it pisses me off to see all this potentially good terrain that isn't being utilized. Holiday valley is pretty bad. Snowshoe is the worst I've seen so far for untapped potential. When you put up a sign that says "not a ski trail" but it looks like a badass ski trail, you might wanna rethink your operations.

Maybe it's for insurance purposes? Idk there has to be a reason other than they don't wanna fund it.
 
14218424:Rotten_Trumpkins said:
If you're talking about Snowshoe, I get it. I almost made a thread about why ski resorts don't expand their terrain into the trees. Many resorts out west and in New England have a very liberal policy for inbounds skiing so it pisses me off to see all this potentially good terrain that isn't being utilized. Holiday valley is pretty bad. Snowshoe is the worst I've seen so far for untapped potential. When you put up a sign that says "not a ski trail" but it looks like a badass ski trail, you might wanna rethink your operations.

Maybe it's for insurance purposes? Idk there has to be a reason other than they don't wanna fund it.
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I just ski way out of bounds at this point if I’m tryna get trees. The picture I posted above is about a quarter mile from the nearest lift. I was with a buddy for safety. So much fun
 
14218424:Rotten_Trumpkins said:
If you're talking about Snowshoe, I get it. I almost made a thread about why ski resorts don't expand their terrain into the trees. Many resorts out west and in New England have a very liberal policy for inbounds skiing so it pisses me off to see all this potentially good terrain that isn't being utilized. Holiday valley is pretty bad. Snowshoe is the worst I've seen so far for untapped potential. When you put up a sign that says "not a ski trail" but it looks like a badass ski trail, you might wanna rethink your operations.

Maybe it's for insurance purposes? Idk there has to be a reason other than they don't wanna fund it.
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Holiday valley in NY has some sick drops and pillow lines up in Tannenbaum but they never clear those spots when they glade there is also many hike to natural glades that me and my friends love but yeah tons of wasted potential. Last summer or 2 summers ago they went through their glades and cleared them all smoothed out transitions and build some more beginner friendly tree trails but I’d still like to see more and steeper glades and with more natural features cleared so their more accessible.

**This post was edited on Dec 28th 2020 at 9:23:17am
 
14218543:WoFlowz said:
Holiday valley in NY has some sick drops and pillow lines up in Tannenbaum but they never clear those spots when they glade there is also many hike to natural glades that me and my friends love but yeah tons of wasted potential. Last summer or 2 summers ago they went through their glades and cleared them all smoothed out transitions and build some more beginner friendly tree trails but I’d still like to see more and steeper glades and with more natural features cleared so their more accessible.

**This post was edited on Dec 28th 2020 at 9:23:17am
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Are you talking about happy glade? Never really spotted anything off the lift. I always felt like that glade is iced over. Any tree terrain outside of that seems to be pretty hazardous with branches and debris. They don't really take care of their out of bounds stuff much, do they?
 
14218583:shinbangclan said:
Are you talking about happy glade? Never really spotted anything off the lift. I always felt like that glade is iced over. Any tree terrain outside of that seems to be pretty hazardous with branches and debris. They don't really take care of their out of bounds stuff much, do they?
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they really don’t but there’s some near chute chair that are skiable and to the skiers left of Tannenbaum chairs there’s a drop out onto the lift line also and farther down skiers left in happy glade there’s some drops small ones but drops. Gobbler glade and devils glen have some stump drops and stuff but other than the 4 glades there isn’t a whole ton and the hike to stuff is only about 4 lanes of skiable trees
 
14218424:Rotten_Trumpkins said:
If you're talking about Snowshoe, I get it. I almost made a thread about why ski resorts don't expand their terrain into the trees. Many resorts out west and in New England have a very liberal policy for inbounds skiing so it pisses me off to see all this potentially good terrain that isn't being utilized. Holiday valley is pretty bad. Snowshoe is the worst I've seen so far for untapped potential. When you put up a sign that says "not a ski trail" but it looks like a badass ski trail, you might wanna rethink your operations.

Maybe it's for insurance purposes? Idk there has to be a reason other than they don't wanna fund it.
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Or ski patrol not wanting to evacuate someone outta the woods
 
14218740:s.j.mitchell said:
Or ski patrol not wanting to evacuate someone outta the woods
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yeah I think this is the answer right here. Ski Patrollers in the east are considerably less badass than ones out west cause they don't have to do avalanche control or anything like that. Here is the typical makeup of ski patrollers at an east coast mountain:

- Old crusty guys. Know everything about the mountain, legend at the ski lodge bar. Could have rescued you from the woods back when they joined the patrol in the late 70s, but those days are probably behind them, or they are too jaded to want to save your stupid ass. Plus, they want the out of bounds stashes to themself, cause they're probably the ones who cut them.

- even older volunteer patrollers who can barely ski. They're retired and mostly ski on weekdays just for a couple hours in the morning. Everyone appreciates their presence and they can get you to the bottom on a green or blue groomer but you're on your own if you crash in the woods. They don't even know about the out of bounds trails.

- gen x boarder dude. This is the one guy who can probably save you if you fall in the woods, except he's a snowboarder so it's gonna take him forever to get across your secret uncut traverse through the trees. He's also the most jaded of all of the patrollers, so there is no way he will advocate for expanding gladed terrain, because he kinda just hates any type of work at all.

- a couple young people. They won't be around for more than a one or two seasons before they go to med school or become a patroller at a real mountain out west. They will be recruited by boarder dude to do any difficult evacuation. But, sadly, they are all too stoned and ripping the trees themself to actually do a good job of patrolling, and they have 0 clout with management to get terrain expanded.
 
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