This is a stupid thread. The bottom line is that this is no one's issue but the adults parenting kids who have fast cars. First off, yes it's stupid to give a kid a fast car at first, because it teaches them to drive inefficiently and dangerously, you can get a 2.5 L 4cylinder engine and have plenty of speed to do what you need to do. I honestly think kids should drive like 4 years at least before getting a turbo or a faster car, i've just seen so many young kids with sti's, wrx's, mercedes etc. crash their car at like 17-18. But that's their issue. But more importantly, parents who buy their kids cars in general is a parenting choice. personally I think a parent shouldn't buy a new car for their kid, a kid should at least pay for a portion. And bullshit you need 8-12 grand for a safe car. I bought a 2000 outback when i was 16 for 4,400 and it's a really safe car in any condition, and in turn I learned how to bargain, drive a car nicely, repair my car, etc., you learn a lot about life through this shit, so personally i think when parents do this shit it's just taking away opportunities from their kids to learn and grow as people, kinda what's wrong with American youth in general. But hey, their loss.