Why do I always knuckle?

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BonusNo413

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Whenever I hit the 35ft jump at Perisher this season I keep knuckling. Even if I start right from the top after the last box, don't carve or turn, and pop as hard as I can I barely make it otherwise I full on knuckle. I waxed my skis and everything. They're 2013 Amarda T-halls (don't judge). I see other skiers and boarders casually do a few turns, carves, then hit the jump fine. I don't get it. Same thing happened last year at the Antons jump line at Thredbo. I push hard, skate, tuck, and pop as hard as I can aaand knuckle. halp
 
you may subconsciously be speed checking a little or wedging your skis at the beginning of the lip or right before take off
 
do you have a video? I'm willing to bet youre doing something with your inside edges in the transition to the jump or your pop timing is off
 
13451194:Download-My-Apps said:
do you have a video? I'm willing to bet youre doing something with your inside edges in the transition to the jump or your pop timing is off
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That's probably it. I'll film myself next time I go up.
 
A small degree of carving can actually help increase your speed. Being on edge has a lower surface area of your ski in contact with the snow and therefore has lower friction.

Absorb any bumps/rollers on the run in to the jump and pump down the other side of them.

Make sure you're in a really strong position coming into the jump and popping hard off the lip.

When you first drop in, a few powerful skates can give you a boost and improve speed.
 
Dont be a bitch man, Start higher, and butt tuck. If you still arnt making it, youre being a bitch.
 
Are you straight airing? If not, you might be popping way early without realising, I remember a dude at my local park, knuckled the biggest jump like 6 times in a row before realising he was spin initiating way early and kept skimming the lip too.

If you're straight airing, then either you're to light (which I doubt, you'd be surprise how little weight effects air time) and I guess go higher, but if riders your sizes are stomping the jump fine from much lower than you then most likely you're just popping wrong (or not popping at all, even if you think you are). How many times have you hit it? If only a few, you might not have realised that you're stopping a little in the tranny, it sounds crazy but I remember watching a video of me straight airing a kicker and I pizza'd a bit right before, didn't even realise or thought I was going too fats at the time.

How to fix it:

So first thing, spot a rider your size, ask him if you can drop with him (just speed check) and see if you can keep up with him WITHOUT looking at him (as in you drop like if you were alone and stop in the tranny to see if you were able to go as fast as him). If yes then move on to second step. If no, then I guess your skis need a serious remodelling (basically reshape the bases with a pattern that makes em not completely flat, it needs to be done after like 2 season of just simple waxing, and it becomes quite obvious in slush season when you go much slower than others).

Second step: popping. You might not be popping well because it's a big jump, and you're scared of knuckling again. Just go on smaller jumps and learn how to pop again, high. (if you're having trouble clearing medium jumps at the same speed as riders your size then watch a popping tutorial, there's a few really good ones out there). Then come back to the jump and kill it.

I think it's mostly likely due to your base pattern being flat af or just not popping correctly. So don't go 50m higher.
 
^^ good info right here

I have the same problem man. Weighing less plays a big part. It's very noticeable on the flats when you're sit tucking to get across while your friends sail by even with a recent wax.

A smooth/strong pop and everything mentioned above makes a difference, but being smaller i always drop in higher than everyone else or fewer carves on the in run.

Also, setting a spin by carving off the lip, depending on how hard you carve, sends you drifting across the jump which requires you to travel more distance to clear the knuckle. As apposed to someone shooting straight down the lip and landing dead smack in the middle of the landing.
 
Make sure you're not absorbing the lip, and make sure you have a strong pop at takeoff. And go faster if you can.
 
Might be your weight. When I was little I would be sitting down trying to get speed for the big jumps and still case anything in the 40 to + range a lot. I would drop from higher and just tuck hard and just couldn't make it.

Or maybe you can land cleaner from the rail above. Maybe you're jump game could improve to getting some more boost.

Idk, could be a lot of things.

I like the rocket ski idea.
 
Go faster.

Follow somebody in who's got the speed dialed.

You might want to adjust your pop, depending on the style of the jump. You say you're popping as hard as you can- but pop can work to limit your forward travel while increasing height. Maybe trying to skim the jump, trading height for distance (i.e. less pop) will help you get to the landing.
 
13452924:ESB said:
Go faster.

Follow somebody in who's got the speed dialed.

You might want to adjust your pop, depending on the style of the jump. You say you're popping as hard as you can- but pop can work to limit your forward travel while increasing height. Maybe trying to skim the jump, trading height for distance (i.e. less pop) will help you get to the landing.
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I had this same problem when I was first getting into park, what's probably happening is your trying to hard to pop and your just doing it wrong, watch some titorials online and look at the people clearing the jump. There's also the possibility you skis are just messed up. I'm a pretty light guy and hitting 60 footers and clearing them every time I come in good so I wouldn't think weight is your problem.
 
13453373:FlownOunce said:
I had this same problem when I was first getting into park, what's probably happening is your trying to hard to pop and your just doing it wrong, watch some titorials online and look at the people clearing the jump. There's also the possibility you skis are just messed up. I'm a pretty light guy and hitting 60 footers and clearing them every time I come in good so I wouldn't think weight is your problem.
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I mean shawn white was casing the jumps at xgames his first year. Weight definitely makes a difference.

But you can def work your pumping skills and popping skills to get more with less.
 
13453540:theabortionator said:
I mean shawn white was casing the jumps at xgames his first year. Weight definitely makes a difference.

But you can def work your pumping skills and popping skills to get more with less.
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I'm not trying to say it doesn't make a difference but on a 35 footer at a public park odds are weights not your problem.
 
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