Why change the forums?

nopoles

Administrator
Staff member
Ever since I started talking about replacing the forums I'v had lots of feedback, both positive and negative. I figured I'd post some screenshots in Site Discussion so as to show those afraid of change that the new forums won't be all

that different. That idea backfired and I've had alot of requests to not change the forums. The most cited reason is that nobody want's standard forums you get everywhere else.

However, my forums are not the standard drop-in forums you get everywhere else, I've coded them from scratch to be as similar as possible to our current forums, while still add even the most basic of forum features. For those of you who don't want the forums to change, I'm sorry but they will. Before you go bashing read my reasons why:

1) Newschooler's Forums are the bussiest part of our site, hands down. The code of the current forums is very innefficient and it creates a real burden on the server. It would be way more work to fix than to just re-code from scratch so that's how I got started.

2) There are security problems with the current forums. Cult masters complain to me all the time that members who have been banned from cults can still modify cult threads. Also, cult masters would like to moderate their cult forums.

3) Moderators don't like the tools to remove posts. Removing a thread requires many clicks and pressing of the back button, trust me, it's fucking annoying. Also, we can not fully moderate the regional forums, nor can we move threads to and from the regional forums. They are completly isolated from the rest of the forums.

So right here.. if you aren't the admin, not a mod and not a cult master you wouldn't understand these reasons. I'll continue...

4) Members complain about the page numbers for threads get messed when posts are removed

5) Cult members would like to see their cult forums listed on the forum page

6) Many members asked me for a quoting feature to avoid the use of '^^^' for a thousand posts in a row... Keep in mind that quoted blocks are limited to 3 lines, just enough so you know what post is being referenced.

7) Members complained that their signatures don't show up the same in different forum views

8) Members have lost posts to the old spam buster, when they click back their post is gone

9) Mods wanted a way to make threads sticky. Some members complain cauz it seems too much like something from a drop-in forum. However what they don't know is that the sticky and bump features are already there and have been for years!! They just don't work properly!! I'm simply fixing it. This will be handy to avoid multiple threads

about the same big event.

10) The time zone is shown at the bottom of all forum pages to avoid confusion with when stuff was posted if you are not from EST.

11) A 'last reply by' feature was added since it's annoying not knowing who did the last update. This was mostly for me, but other members asked for it too.

12) Members wanted the Next and Previous page buttons at the top and bottom of thread displays

13) Members were sick of long strings like WWWWWWWWWWWWWWW... and images resizing NS, and I must agree it's fucking annoying.

... I can go on and on. So for everybody who is afraid of change, trust me, it's for the better. I've worked hard to ensure that the new forums resemble the current ones as much as possible.

The forums will be changing and I think most of you will be pleased. The only consistent complaint I've heard is 'but they will be different', but that's life. Just like our sport we must progress the site. We can't avoid change forever.

~Paul

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Pimp Juice
 
all sounds reasonable, when we looking for the changes to happen?

volkl karma: it's the sickest thing to ever happen to skiing
 
damn right! sounds really badass. fuck all the haterz. you wrote this shit from scratch?? damn dawg, im impressed.

SITZEN
 
*tear*

I couldn't agree with you more. I KNOW how frustrating it is to spend DAYS programming something that you KNOW is totally awesome and then have a bunch of people who don't know, or don't understand it tell you how they don't like it. It's rediculously frustrating. I can almost guarrentee that the majority of members will be singing your praises once they see the new forums in action. They bitch and moan after they see a blurry screenshot, yet they know nothing about WHY we need new forums. As many of you probably noticed, I spend a ton of time on these forums. I have to deal with all of those problemes NoPoles listed almost daily. It's frustrating when things don't work the way they should. Basically what i'm saying is this, many of the most active member's on NS, and those who use the forums the most, have requested these changes. They are the ones who have delt with these forums for almost 4 years now and recognize that the new forums will be a change for the better. So, support all the hard work that NoPoles is putting into these forums so that YOU can have a smoother experience on Newschoolers.com.

-Jason

[www.theonlywarehouse.com]

[www.option5team.com]
 
Thanks Cowboy, at least somebody understands. ;)

I'm currently writing the new My Threads. After that I have to add cult master moderation, then write the scripts to move over all the forum data!!

That's gona be a fun one. I imagine it will take the server hours to convert the forum data to the new format.

~Paul

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Pimp Juice
 
Good work No Poles. I dont want to see the change personally but since its for the better I think all of us can get used to it.

-People say marijuana ruins your life, I just say I take the scenic route-
 
^^ from way over here, i thank you for investing such time for a free service as efficient and coherent as yours, and thank you for your hard work and persistence, i now know it will be greater and more grandiose than before...

Thank You

-Patty

Vis ton cassage et tais toi!

Its NS... retards blend in. - J.D._May

wow, if i was a number id totally do that girl -jflo453

 
Nothing is really changing, except the correction of a few bugs and easier use for moderators. The only new features are quoting and more controls for cult masters. I'm excited for the changes and I think once people see the new forums, they will like them as well.

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Andrew Franklin


Dope.
 
I'm not really a fan of quote boxes or the fact that you're taking away the html for links, pictures etc...

BUt I suppose it's just personal opinion. Overall, superb job Paul. It's really appreciated.

Hunter S Thompson RIP 1939-2005

My heroes don't appear on no stamps.

Our greatest glory consists not in never falling. But in rising every time we fall.

 
about the html for the links and pics, you no longer do >img src=URL< or >a href=URL/a< ???

-Patty

Vis ton cassage et tais toi!

Its NS... retards blend in. - J.D._May

wow, if i was a number id totally do that girl -jflo453

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Im down with the new features and look. were all lucky to have someone like paul working his ass off to make this a better place, put that shit to good use!

Dragon's Layer Member
Drop Cliff's, Not Bombs
Make Turns, Not War
Bomb Hills, Not People
Member #259
 
paul, I'm as excited for this update as I am for my great uncle's birthdays.

but seriously, this is a good fucking deal. I'm very happy about these things.

-Pat
 
Nopoles(paul) just sent me this message through private message!

Look dude,

You were banned so get over it. We don't take kindly to threads so fuck off and die.

Go waste your time at the university...

~Paul

 
Paul just look at it this way. Anyone who understands what u r goin through to benifit us are giving you props.Those who dont understand well their opinion shouldnt matter. Seriously i do appreciate the hardwork and am amazed at the work this staff goes through. Thank you to all who make NS happen and I cant wait to see the new forums as long as it as nice as all thge other features I know we will all be happy! And why not make it easeir on admins and mods the happier they are the smoother the site will run!! SO keep it up bro!! All the new features sound great I cant really see a valid negative side to any of this!!

Pete is currently sulking around Mt. Hood, shooting with Poor Boyz Productions and hitting on Kristi Leskinen. She hates guys, Pete lamented, so it’s not going good. Apparently Canada isn’t the only thing that’s tough for Pete to get into.

-kamikaze

 
i agree with you one everything i just dont care for the new LOOK of the site. i like the way this one is layed out

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Dragons Lair
 
the only thing i don't like is the loss of html,if it wasnt for ns i wouldn't even know html

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who the hell takes pictures of themselves with a camera phone?? those are made to sneak pics of girls tits and underwear-lateralis

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ns really does need an efficiency boost, so i hope these changes are gonna make navigating through ns a lot easier.

>I have 1 suggestion, which is to change the weird refresh thing that you have an option to do. It just seems to lag things up and doesn't seem very useful. Plus it could waste some valuable bandwith on people who just leave themselves logged on all night.

Matching Special Blend Jacket and Foursquare Snowpants for Sale
^^^^It's BRAND NEW. NEVER BEEN WORN!
 
Well whatever helps out the site in a positive way, I say do it.

----2ond in Command of DANSA-----

To Huck. v. The act of throwing oneself off of a cornice, cliff, rock, or any other thing that results in an attempt to fly.

If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit.

GW Award December 3, 2004
 
since its a free service, i dont think anyone can complain. esepcially since it is helipng out :D

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wayne gretzky, the only man i'd have sex with. i'd be intimate with, wayne gretzky

ska is dead.... and you're next !
 
A short list of changes......

They are just about done, and they are fucking slick. New features include:

- Easier deletion of threads & posts for mods

- All deleted threads are sent to the Deleted Threads forum (including

deleted regional threads)

- Threads that have been deleted indicated who deleted them, when and from

which forum

- Mods can now move threads to and from the regional forums

- Your cult forums are displayed on the forums page

- You can quote a previous reply

- The thread list shows who posted the last reply and when

- The previous and next links for thread & posts are displayed at the top

and bottom

- Member names are shown including colours, profile tag and bling rating

- URLs are automatically turned into links

- Image tags are no longer allowed. Instead members must use the new IMG

notation to include an image in a display. (CK, if you have questions

call me, I spent alot of time on this problem and this seems to be the

best way to deal.)

- The spam buster tells you how long you have to wait before being allowed

to post again!

- Level 3 mods (just us I think) can make threads sticky and unsticky

- Long strings like (aaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...) are word

wrapped so they don't resize the table.

- A new my threads

In addition to the new features, my new forums include these bug fixes:

- There are proper filters on HTML so members can't break the forums like

before

- Deleting a post decrements the thread's post count and last reply time.

This also fixes the problem of displaying non-existent pages beside a

thread.

- Much better security. Your permissions are checked every time you try

and load forum data or post anything

- After mods remove threads or posts, they are sent back to the forum

instead of having to use the back button

- Signatures are no longer part of the post, but appended to your post

upon display. Thus your latest signature will always be displayed.

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Pimp Juice
 
A short list of changes......

New Features:

- Easier deletion of threads & posts for mods

- All deleted threads are sent to the Deleted Threads forum (including deleted regional threads)

- Threads that have been deleted indicated who deleted them, when and from which forum

- Mods can now move threads to and from the regional forums

- Your cult forums are displayed on the forums page

- You can quote a previous reply

- The thread list shows who posted the last reply and when

- The previous and next links for thread & posts are displayed at the top and bottom

- Member names are shown including colours, profile tag and bling rating

- URLs are automatically turned into links

- Image tags are no longer allowed. Instead members must use the new IMG notation to include an image in a display.

- The spam buster tells you how long you have to wait before being allowed to post again!

- Level 3 mods like CK, bishop, kamikaze and I can make threads sticky and unsticky

- Long strings like (aaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...) are word wrapped so they don't resize the table.

- A new my threads list

In addition to the new features, my new forums include these bug fixes:

- There are proper filters on HTML so members can't break the forums like before

- Deleting a post decrements the thread's post count and last reply time. This also fixes the problem of displaying non-existent pages beside a

thread.

- Much better security. Your permissions are checked every time you try and load forum data or post anything

- After mods remove threads or posts, they are sent back to the forum instead of having to use the back button

- Signatures are no longer part of the post, but appended to your post upon display. Thus your latest signature will always be displayed.

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Pimp Juice
 
I really dont know how n e of that could be considered bad. Excellent Excellent work Paul now i am really pumped on the new forums!!! Should just make everything more smooth overall!!

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Skiing isn't a matte rof life and death. IT's much more important than that!

'Live simply so others can simply live'-Ghandi
 
ok, you sold me now

Hunter S. Thompson
1939-2005

'Soberity is not an option.'

Drivin that Train
 
^right here, that was my idea, yeah boy

Hunter S. Thompson
1939-2005

'Soberity is not an option.'

Drivin that Train
 
all of that sounds pretty sweet. im confused about posting images though now. what is this new image notation you speak of?

West is Best.
 
also, i think that the quote feature will be WAY overused, but every other new feature and change is definetely for the better.

West is Best.
 
I figure quoting will be abused to begin with, but we'll see how it works out. It's easy to disable if it doesn't work out.

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Pimp Juice
 
it will eventually become smoother. but that first day out. is gonna be crazy

[Once, I] got a bj in the back of my dads truck on a road trip while both parents were up front-Norred
 
i dont think im ready to take my relationship with NS to the next level..i just cant commit yet. im sorry

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Jibij Pro Shop
'jibij is the dope steeze. go there for all your core ski needs'
 
Didnt u also say cult masters will have mod powers over there cults or no?

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Skiing isn't a matte rof life and death. IT's much more important than that!

'Live simply so others can simply live'-Ghandi
 
so the image thimgs now are the IMGURL/IMG, just reversing those brackets?

-Patty
Vis ton cassage et tais toi!

Its NS... retards blend in. - J.D._May

yea, i let my friends watch sometimes when they get bored. ive rented out some bleachers for them to sit in actually, im thinking of making big foam hands with 'no jaime! not in there!' written on them. -dynastarconcept

 
Not yet, but when the new forums come out you will create an image like this.

add_image.jpg'


-Jason

[www.theonlywarehouse.com]

[www.option5team.com]
 
You'll get the hang of it once it's out. It's easier than using A HREF='' ..

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paul rocks my socks

wait, so will the in thread code, like bold, be sort of like the code in VB powered forums, such as bbold/b?

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Just ski.

dynastarconcept
yea, i let my friends watch sometimes when they get bored. ive rented out some bleachers for them to sit in actually, im thinking of making big foam hands with 'no jaime! not in there!' written on them.

i swear to drunk im not god.

1st member to call NS Radio contest, and first to fail miserably.

 
it will be for the better, i think people should just trust no poles in what hes doing........although there is alway a few compainers and i guess thats life

'hahaha i cant believe you actually called me fucker'-epimitheus

'If they don't find a place to stay, I'll ban each and every one of you.' -kamikaze

'I would but I hear you're an animal, plus I have lots of large weapons laying around my apartment. Just seems like a bad idea.' - Ice-Is-Scary

 
i remember the old dark blue layout and then they changed things and everyone freaked out, but change is good.

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'That's what Punk is to me. The near final understanding that the world is ours, and that we only have to realize it to make it so.'

-Ben Bormann
 
Awww and I just memorized the whole link and picture posting coding. :(

----2ond in Command of DANSA-----

To Huck. v. The act of throwing oneself off of a cornice, cliff, rock, or any other thing that results in an attempt to fly.

If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit.

GW Award December 3, 2004
 
wait a tick....so how do you post pics in the new forums?

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Just shut up and ski.
 
hahaha its been posted 1000 times IMGURL/IMG

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Skiing isn't a matte rof life and death. IT's much more important than that!

'Live simply so others can simply live'-Ghandi
 
Sounds great. I'm excited. We aren't going to lose all the old posts though will we?

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ok, you more or less convinced me. as long as it looks as much as possible as the current forums. i still dont like the quote thing but oh well.

 
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