Why American Allowed 9/11

Gdawg3

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Read this book
http://vancouver.indymedia.org/news/2004/06/141355_comment.php

(You have to cut and paste it)

For those of you too lazy to read, here's a summary, all the evidence is outlined in the book if you have doubt, which you should.

1. Evidence that the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq were already planned for geopolitical reasons, so that 9/11 provided not the reason for the wars but merely the pretext.

2. Evidence that men with connections to al-Qaeda were allowed into the United States in spite of regulations that should have kept them out

3. Evidence that men with connections to al-Qaeda were allowed to train in US flight schools.

4. Evidence that the attacks of 9/11 could not have succeeded without an order from the highest level of government to suspend normal operating procedures for responding to hijackings.

5. Evidence that US political and military leaders made misleading and even false statements about their response to the hijackings.

6. Evidence in particular that the presently accepted official account, according to which jet fighter planes were scrambled but arrived too late, was invented some days after 9/11.

7. Evidence that the collapse of the WTC buddings was brought about by explosives, so that participation by the US government in the prevention of an adequate examination of the debris, especially the steel, constitutes evidence of its participation in a cover-up.

8. Evidence that someone in authority sought to ensure that there would be deaths in the attacks on the second WTC tower and the Pentagon by not having these buildings evacuated.

9. Evidence that what hit the Pentagon was not a Boeing 757 but a much smaller aircraft, such as a guided missile.

10. Evidence that Flight 93 was shot down after authorities learned that the passengers were gaining control of it.

11. Evidence that Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld revealed advance knowledge of two of the attacks.

12. Evidence that President Bush on 9/11 feigned ignorance of the occurrence and seriousness of the attacks.

13. Evidence that President Bush and his Secret Service knew on 9/11 that he would not be a target of attacks.

14. Evidence that the FBI had specific knowledge of the time and targets of the attacks at least a month in advance.

15. Evidence that the CIA and other intelligence agencies would have had very specific advance knowledge of the attacks by means of the put options purchased shortly before 9/11.

16. Evidence that the Bush administration lied about not having had specific warnings about the attacks.

17. Evidence that the FBI and other federal agencies prevented investigations prior to 9/11 that might have uncovered the plot.

18. Evidence that US officials sought to conceal evidence of involvement by Pakistan's ISI in the planning of 9/11.

19. Evidence that US officials sought to conceal the presence of the ISI chief in Washington during the week of 9/11.

20. Evidence that the FBI and other federal agencies blocked investigations after the attacks that might have revealed the true Perpetrators.

21. Evidence that the United States did not really seek to kill or capture Osama bin Laden either before or after the attacks.

22. Evidence that figures central to the Bush administration had desired a 'new Pearl Harbor' because of various benefits it would bring.

23. Evidence of motive provided by the predictable benefits that this event, called by Bush himself 'the Pearl Harbor of the 21st century,' did bestow on the Bush administration.

24. Evidence against the alternative explanation—the incompetence theory—provided by the fact that those who were allegedly guilty of incompetence were not fired but, in some cases, promoted.

We have an old saying down on the bayou....Blehhhhh!!!
 
9. Evidence that what hit the Pentagon was not a Boeing 757 but a much smaller aircraft, such as a guided missile.

I've seen the airplanes hit it cheif

God is an American.
 
I read a book that said this book was a bunch of liar liar pants on fire!

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These are all the basis of the Michael Moore theories most of which have been proven as flat out lies, mistruths, and misrepresentations.

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I'm way to lazy to read all that & practicly we thought america was the perfect place and nothing like that could ever happen to us. thats why.

they caught us off guard.

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thank you, this proves a point im my other thread

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land of the free???@#! haha right... free to the power of the people in uniform

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yeah it sure is PROOF let me start a thread that says. The pentagon was hit by a plane. then I can have PROOF too.

God is an American.
 
u think American wanted to be attacked? these lazy ass conspiracy theorist fucks have nothing better to do then manipulate facts and images to portrait the attack as a hoax in some ways or something we knew was happening

thats grade A bullshit

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no h30 it makes total sense. We were cooperating with terrorist so they could kill some of our people and give our country all the public support it needs to go bomb their country.

God is an American.
 
i think i started a chain of 9/11 and political threads.

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alpentalik: i had lots of dust bunnies...they were nice and soft, but then i realized that they had pubes in them.
 
Not a single person here read any of that. If you had remotely any intelligence, you'd realize that the people who gain the most from crimes are usually considered suspects, ie The Bush administration and 9/11. Read the book, if in fact you can read, and then respond. The reason this idea is unbelievable is because it is shocking. Once you actually examine the evidence--offered in the book--it's clear that 9/11 required participation by the Bush administration. Read the book with a 10% open mind and you will be convinced.

Furthermore, Michael Moore didn't mention a single goddamned thing on this list, so don't discredit the evidence by associating it with Michael Moore.

We have an old saying down on the bayou....Blehhhhh!!!
 
^it seems to me bush isn't gaining anything from this war. He might lose his job because of it.

Michael Moore on the other hand has made millions and millions of dollars. Fahrenheit 9/11 grossed more on opening weekend than any other documentary has ever. I bet it was all Michael Moore's fault.

Now I know you arent stupid enough to believe that but it sounds just as rediculous as what you're saying.

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Once again READ THE FUCKING BOOK. All your questions and responses will be answered if you shut the fuck up and READ THE FUCKING BOOK.

Yeah, he hasn't gained anything....except a submissive congress with which he passes every piece of psycho-conservative legislation, a complacent and aggressive pro-war public that supports whatever imperialistic wars he wants, complete control of oil resources and pipeline routes in Afghanistan and Iraq, and absolute power for 4 years to do whatever behind the scenes chicanery he wants. Yeah nothing at all.

We have an old saying down on the bayou....Blehhhhh!!!
 
I'll buy your books propaganda about as soon as I'll buy bush's propaganda. They are both selling me shit I'm not trying to buy. Whether someone is trying to sell me security or sell me conspiracy theories they both have something to gain.

God is an American.
 
It's absolutely free to read online dumbass. A major publishing company thought it was so important for the world to read, they bought it's rights and published it online for free. That's what the linke goes to.

IT'S FREE IT'S FREE IT'S FREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We have an old saying down on the bayou....Blehhhhh!!!
 
Bush hasn't passed all his legislation as you say. He has just failed to veto a single bill in his first 4 years as presdient, which is completely unprecedented. Interesting book though, I would have to agree the sources for the book are very credible.

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Let me see.

1. I see nothing wrong with that.

2. Hey its really not that hard to get in this country.

3. Did these fight schools know they were with Al Qaeda?

4. Fascinating, explain.

5. Interesting, explain.

6. Really, Let try and catch another plane that is already in the air and about to fly into a building. Furthermore, if they could actually cath the jets in time, they would have shot them down over a city that could potentially result in killing the same amount if not more people.

7. There were explosives, jet fuel dumbass. The intense heat cause by that fuel fire weakened the structure. It had the same effect as an explosion. They flew God damn plains into skyscrapers.

8. Who is that someone?

9. Bullshit. That theory has been disproved.

10. Did the people shooting the plains know this? Did the people giving the orders to shoot know what was going on inside the plains?

11. Where?

12. Oh really? How so?

13. So? Whit if he wasn’t a target? Did they know if an attack was going to even happen?

14. *sigh*, explain.

15. Thats just speculation, it proves nothing.

16. Specific Warnings? Exactly how specific? We already know that people wanted to bomb us.

17. Um, explain.

18. *yawn*, explain

19. What does that have to do with anything?

20. True perpetrators? Like who? Al Qaeda admitted doing it!

21. That is the biggest load of bullshit I have ever heard, explain

22. Desired, can that be proven?

23. Same thing as 22.

24. Really, how made the author an expert in this so called “ignorance�? I see that he is a professor inphilosophy of religion and theology. I think its kind of funny since he does not have any real background in political science when he writes about a political issue. There is a lot of grey area here.

I don’t have time to read that whole book right now, I will later. It’s seems to be more of a “what if� rather than a “what is�.

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T-Money: i think the icecream truck just hit a kid

T-Money: brbrb
 
'It's absolutely free to read online dumbass. A major publishing company thought it was so important for the world to read, they bought it's rights and published it online for free. That's what the linke goes to. '

The keyword is they BOUGHT the rights meaning the writer of this propaganda still got paid to do so.

God is an American.
 
Most writers get paid for creating works you fucking idiot. Woodward got paid for exposing Watergate, does that mean that it was propoganda and it didn't happen? And to the guy with the shamrock as an icon, all your questions are specifically answered (yes, your exact ones) IN THE BOOK. PUT DOWN THE XBOX AND READ FOR ONCE. And when you say 'Interesting, explain', that indicates to me that you SHOULD READ THE BOOK. I didn't start this thread to be your faq guide, I did it so that people could get the book link and read it for themselves.

We have an old saying down on the bayou....Blehhhhh!!!
 
why dont we all just give up and admit that we allowed 9/11, and we never landed on the moon, oh also at roswell there were real aliens, and they are currently running the government, so why not blame it on the roswell aliens who are running the government, and not on president bush

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'IN THE BOOK. PUT DOWN THE XBOX AND READ FOR ONCE. And when you say 'Interesting, explain', that indicates to me that you SHOULD READ THE BOOK. I didn't start this thread to be your faq guide, I did it so that people could get the book link and read it for themselves.'

Hahahahahaha! Put down the xbox! Good one. Great assumption that I have no life. I started to read it but I didn't have time. I've more important things to do in my day then pour over a free online booklet. I said I will finish reading it and I will. I'm initially skeptical because I think it will be crap. I'm pretty sure of that to, because I already know that some of it is bull shit without having to read it. I didn't realize you would get so butt hurt about it. Please switch to decaf.

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T-Money: wtf

T-Money: i think the icecream truck just hit a kid

T-Money: brbrb
 
...I'm not going to touch this one with a ten foot pole. I will say that I happen to know #3 is true from having seen pertinent government documents (which are occasionally released in pdf format on the net), but it seems to me that it was more of a matter of incompetence than anything else... no one read anything into it (which is more or less their job).

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what gdawg 3 failed to realize was that everything in books these days isnt always true, he forgot that there are actually fictional books with STORIES so people will buy them and the author will make money, i know its an amazing thing but everything you read these days isnt a text book

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anyone can attend flight school more or less. Its cheap too I've done some classes before. You would need minimal training in order to crash a plane into a building. I feel confident in saying that If I studied the cockpit configuration for a while I could prolly crash an airplane with enough precision to hit a building.

God is an American.
 
Well, the thing is, the FBI received urgent documents pertaining to the influx of these people in their schools, and how they weren't at all concerned with how to actually LAND the plane (which really should have been a dead giveaway). This all came out a few months after 9/11, but didn't get much press. Personally, I can't really blame the Bush admin for it, although members of the Republican party with influence in such matters were responsible for diverting FBI agents during the relevant period when these reports were coming in. It's really more of a sad comment on the extent to which partisanship in American politics is doing the country some rather major harm.

Please, guys, run McCain. We can all agree on McCain. No more petty squabbling (or at least noticeably less of it). Doesn't that sound nice?

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In a haze

A stormy haze

I’ll be around

I’ll be loving you

Always

Always

Here I am

And I’ll take my time

Here I am

And I’ll wait in line

Always

Always...
 
everything is easier o figure out in retrospect, but if you have no idea what type of attack is going to occur the fact that maybe 3 arabs join flight school out of the how many million that are in the US, you really cant expect the administration to put a lockdown on all flights and expect something of that magnitude would occur, realistically a few gus who want to learn how to fly a plane, even if they do have terrorist connections, really cannot stimulate a national step up in airport security, im sure much more credible threats havent been acted upon because there really isnt anything that you can do about it

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I'm just saying, if they get reports labelled 'URGENT', after having received other warnings of planned attacks... maybe they should have at least...well... investigated? Just a bit? But they didn't, at all. Reports = ignored utterly. And I'm sure they would have investigated, had their resources not been stretched rather thin at that point.

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In a haze

A stormy haze

I’ll be around

I’ll be loving you

Always

Always

Here I am

And I’ll take my time

Here I am

And I’ll wait in line

Always

Always...
 
this thread is a load of bull shit......yes we let our people be killed like that........keep telling yourself that.

fuck liberals man, always doubting our own country. you put more faith in mass murders than you do in the person YOU, the people, ELECTED!

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if i heard you say that shit in the bar i'd deck you hard for every person that got killed in 9/11, because you think we 'let' it happen, instead of blaming it on stupid racist dumbfuck ignorant millitant dirty towelheads.

 
how can we know that they would have found anything if they had investigated, after the attacks from what i remember they didnt really find anything incriminating in the peoples houses, and they arrested zacharias moussoui or however you spell his name and they couldnt get anything out of him, so considering we arrested one of them and we didnt find anything, i doubt investigating the other two would have proven much, also there were no patrior laws back then so we wouldnt have had any basis to search or investigate any of them in a way that would reveal something, ill admit we had an intelligence failure to a small extent, but an attack like this is extremely hard to prevent, due to te fact that airport security was so shitty, and we definitely werent going to step up airport security due to something as small as arabs in flight school as i said earlier

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You guys know so fucking much. It's a wonder none of you are in congress right now you're so fucking intelligent. Wait, no, you're all fucking stupid and scared to read something that challenges your beliefs. Live in your little 'America gives a shit about it's citizens' dreamworld and wack off to pictures of George Bush, I no longer give a shit. People who wouldn't even read it before criticizing it aren't worth wasting the time over. FUCK ALL YOU DUMBASS RETARDS. I am infinitely smarter than all of you, maybe if you guys read once in a while or listened to people of opposing viewpoints you would learn something too.

We have an old saying down on the bayou....Blehhhhh!!!
 
^ consider that one submitted to the committe.

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When she places them in front of you

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Don't even get me started on you fucking Mormons.

We have an old saying down on the bayou....Blehhhhh!!!
 
Just kidding, I don't object to your religion, I object to the fact that you're a fucking idiot.

We have an old saying down on the bayou....Blehhhhh!!!
 
yes we did have a plan to go into afghanistan pre 9-11, it was to get osama bin laden before he could plan a 9-11esque attack. we had agents in afghanistan working with local resistance and awhole team of cia in washington working to apprehend him before your sorry ass knew who he was.

on several occasions we were in striking distance of bin laden and could have wiped him out, but do to political ramafications and having permission of airspace over countries vital to a mission in afghanistan like krygistan and pakistan denying use of the airspace we were never allowed to get him.

this thread you made is an insult and a slap in the face to all the people who were cold bloodedly murdered you sick fuck. why would our country spend trillions after 9-11 to fix 'something we did' liberals like you make me sick and deserve to have a broom stuck up your ass and your sphincters rippedout.

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everyone is trashing it and all the posts are too long so ill just go along and say 'BULLSHIT'

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'do i look gullable to you , or even a gulla-calf?'
 
and gdawg goes down in a flame created of his own retardation.

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Are you fucking KIDDING?

alright first of all

9. Evidence that what hit the Pentagon was not a Boeing 757 but a much smaller aircraft, such as a guided missile.

They have fucking tape of that^^^ and 100's of eye witnesses

also that hole thing is a made up load of shit!

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Its winter, the birds have all flown south, all but one. One little bird that waited too long. As it flew to catch it's buddies it got icicles on its wings and fell to the ground. The bird then saw a nice looking branch at the top of a nearby tree and it said to a nearby cow, 'I want to reach that top branch but I don’t have then energy to fly up, can you help?' The cow said, 'Here, eat some of my poop it'll fuel you to climb up the tree.' The little bird said, 'Thanks!' and had some of the cow poop. The bird flew up to the first branch of the tree and rested, then the next day flew to the next branch, until finally the bird reached the top branch. Then the farmer came out with a shotgun...

The moral of the story is, bullshit may get you to the top, but it wont keep you there.

 
Gdawg3, I maneged to find some time in my day to read it a little more. Not finished though. But please take a chill pill. I’ll pick that piece of crap apart once I finish with it.

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T-Money: wtf

T-Money: i think the icecream truck just hit a kid

T-Money: brbrb
 
Not a single person has read it. Are you scared that you'll be wrong? That all your naive thoughts about who runs the world and our own government could be false, making the last 10 years (I'm assuming none of you are older than 13, based on the maturity and intelligence of your posts) of your life a waste? C'mon pussies, man up and read it.

We have an old saying down on the bayou....Blehhhhh!!!
 
I'm reading it right now. You don't need to reduce yourself to petty name calling. I'm sure a mature person like yourself would be able to reflect what YOU think about the book. You have failed to do that as of yet. I will finish it. Y

You don't seem to realize that;

I DONT HAVE TIME IN MY DAY TO READ THE ENTIRE GOD DAMN BOOK!!!!!!!!!!! I HAVE A FUCKING LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!! I HAVE CLASS AND A JOB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Go ahead, call me a pussy just like a 13 year old.

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T-Money: wtf

T-Money: i think the icecream truck just hit a kid

T-Money: brbrb
 
Most of what I've written has been directed at everyone else, you must be pretty egotistical to think everything I say is about you.

We have an old saying down on the bayou....Blehhhhh!!!
 
You'd also have to be pretty egoistic to say something like ''I’ll pick that piece of crap apart once I finish with it.''

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In a haze

A stormy haze

I’ll be around

I’ll be loving you

Always

Always

Here I am

And I’ll take my time

Here I am

And I’ll wait in line

Always

Always...
 
i am building a shack in the woods and saying fuck all this political shit. remember: technology is the downfall of mankind. regaurdless of its benefits.

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