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skipimp_

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THis is from "Watching this Also may get you killed"

who do you agree with?

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Quoting Journey from Apr 3 2008 6:54:18:
i feel sorry for anyone who really believes the government sanctioned the klilling of over 3000 citizens. This video is an anti-american propoganda peice of shit done by super liberal dumbasses. Theyre saying america is the bad guy, and al qaeda and other terrotists organizations are good? what the fuck kind of conspiracy is that.

Anyone who takes this video seriously is honestly retarded.

Me: People like you make me sad, because as long as people think the way you do, believeing in their government (not that people arent good intentioned, including people in a government) and supporting evil deeds, things will not change for the better, they will change for the worse. Some things are necessary to advance a civilization, blindly believing the lies your government, media, and public are fed through the black veined beast which is the International banking cartels (hisss!!! booo!!!!) , who fund secret wars, hire illegal mercenaries, brainwash american youths into committing terrible atrocities in the name of Old Men behind the Curtain whose time has come and who don't give a FUCK about you, don't give a FUCK about you, don't give a FUCK about you, don't give a FUCK about you, "THE OWNERS OF THIS COUNTRY DON"T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT YOU, DO YOU FUCKING HEAR ME!!" - George Carlin,

but bringing it back to the necessary things to progress a civilization and the role people like you play in not allowing change to happen too soon, not enough terrible things have happened yet to penetrate my ignorance" ya, i know you have a role, and you can play it out, because we, the educated, the travelled, the experienced, the open minded, analytical, spiritually enlightened understanding empathetic diciples of life, need someone to fight against. Critical mass is the goal, and both sides are fighting for it. All sides are fighting for it.

GO watch fox and eat a box of krispy kreme and tell your mom what you think , because no one else gives a shit!,

no offence.
 
Proof. I want proof. And not just the barely coherent ramblings of some journalist who refers to agents of the shadow government as ninjas.
 
Thank you for asking - I can provide it, the ninja guy was just a more humorous perspective from someone with privileged information.

Each agent of truth is not perfect, they have imagination, speculation, and theories of their own. Look at the micro, not the macro.

Watch the link in the thread mentioned above,

also the classic zeitgeist (www.zeitgeistmovie.com)

Alex Jones does some good research

Ill link the proof as I gather the links, here in this thread, so you too can be privvy to information you never would have seen normally. The BBC does a few really good ones on the Bilderberg Group.

The CIA does terrible things to people everywhere, america included.

YOu have to understand these Ol' Boys play a Dangerous game of Power, using nations as chessboards, affecting millions of people, they think life is cheap.

 
in what sense of the word do you mean?

Do you mean seeing the energy of the life force flowing through the world around you while youre on your 3rd day of taking mushrooms, mdma, acid, nitrous, and 2-ct-7?

Or do you mean watching scholar's lectures, going to the local university to watch seminars by people who know what the fuck they're saying?

Do I really have to prove every little thing to you? don't you have a rational imagination?

 
Should it be investigated and should we have answers? Yes.

Do I think that thats what actually happened that day - no.
 
I disagree with you. I would also like to say that quoting George Carlin doesn't really add credibilty to your post.
 
id say I agree with you for the most part. Ive got in some arguments with my teachers about the legitamacy of the information being fed to the classes even before watching some exposational videos. And i've never been one to blindly accept what im told in class.

proof is key, so keep your proof coming...

by the way, i know most of those substances, but whats 2-ct-7 in a nutshell?
 
hahaha i really feel sorry for you because when you look back at this moment in your life, it's going to amount to as much as the hippies did during vietnam... well that'd be giving you way to much credit so im going to take that back and relate people who believe the world is flat to your fallacy-filled thoughts. you tell us to open our eyes, kid they're open and they're open to not only one side of the story, but both... and common sense. eat shit and die you god damned idiot.
 
You guys don't even phase me, I know what im talking about.

Proof :

here
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2828699763450405659
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4467655342219448521&hl=en
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3199165500537819249 (mostly symbolism)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8994134280050303590

www.zeitgeistmovie.com (a must see)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1365122328705071981
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6397377172098003485

If you want to have a conversation with me, watch these and them talk to me. take your time, they're heavy.
 
hahahaha no they didn't. you want to think they did, but all they managed to do was frazzle up the domestic state by dropping a shit load of drugs and starting isolated riots. what really ended the war was continuing pressure by other states on the world stage, combined with the continuing success of north vietnam's invasion of its southern counterpart fueled by soviet support. we realized that the war could not be won, a little late i might add.
 
call me an ignorant optimist but i would say that as a whole, mankind is inherently good..

that being said, i know that bad people can gain control of government and twist it into what ever they want(Hitler, Saddam, Fidel, ect)

but i do not believe we took down the towers (see ignorant optimist part:)
 
dude just be happy that youre in the country thats winning. youre ruining your chances of ever becoming one of the secret rulers of the world by bitching about it.
 
all the facts they claim already have been dis-proven... a while ago...

and as far as their speculation goes, that's not fact genius. they don't even prove themselves right.
 
lol wtf are you talking about.

YOu obviously didnt even watch them cause you posted 5 min after me, and each one is like an hour.

SO fuck you, we can't talk about something if you havent seen it;.

And fuck your opinion.

None of these videos is a video of me talking, giving you my opinion, so fuck your assumptions.

 
you're not the first one to post these videos. and funny thing is that like all the others, they get REALLY pissed and void of any rational thought when you corner them with evidence that conflicts with what they believe. get used to it kid, because the cock of truth is about to shoot a load of knowledge in your eye.
 
^^ See, thats where you give yourself away "We don't need to watch them because they're bullshit" - dude, this isnt the only way i know about these facts, I go to university, I have a lot of discussions, I see lots of speakers, I listen to Important credible people, and I like these links, because they present it in an entertaining interesting way.

As to the cumshot of knowledge - i hope you swallow, cause im going ass to mouth on you

you havent disproved shit
I bet you watch Bill O' Reiley - Grade A Shithead..

 
look around kid, if you are as knowledgeable about research as you say you are, you'd invest time into the other side with an open mind. ive dealt with one too many kids like you and to be honest, you all go away in time. "i go to a university..." so fucking what. does that automatically make you the mr. know-it-all? you say you go to speakers that are "credible" when i bet a thousand bucks they are the liberal opposite of o' reiley. you still do not show any reason for you to be taken seriously, but have been showing a kid who's learning capabilities challenge that of a three year-old... almost.
 
Who the fuck do you think you are. No it doesnt. University builds credibility, if you want to dismiss the credibility of the institutions, thats your choice, but I'm going to stop listening to you. Listen Kid, once you know the issues, care about the issues, and have enough empathy to feel for your fellow human being, no matter how many miles apart, you will never develop into the human potential.

you just gave up bro, you got lazy, stopped doing research, I know Im right, you've made up your mind and think youre right.

Say the same about me, go ahead, But I know what I have to back me up, what do you have, please, post an article, Just accept that the INternational Banking cartels are warmongers. If you can't even do that much, youre hopeless. Im not posting these as gospel, I am providing a database of fats or non facts to draw upon. I upgrade all the time, i take curent data, I learn new things, I have not gotten stuck like you have, I am a progressive mind, who will explore everything possibility and oppertunity, compiling a powerful position and collection of wisdom, scholars, and amazing minds surrounding us in society.

Stop attacking me personally, you have no idea what youre getting into. Stick to the information in the links, start there.

Yore not worthy of my opinion.

 
Fuck your stupid google videos. Why the fuck would the US government knock down all the WTC buildings, fly a plane into the pentagon, and fly a plane down into the middle of Virginia or wherever?
 
i didnt watch your videos but if they are the loose change videos you are the biggest dumbass for referencing those to support your point
 
agree to disagree.

something you liberals have a hard time comprehending.

you preach tolerance, but when it comes to someone not agreeing with your point of view, well lets just say you make it your mission to tell the other person how wrong they are.

get over yourselves.

 
Uh, no, see the burden of proof is on you. We have a rational and sensible explanation for what happened on 9/11. Most of the theories I've heard either involve mass conspiracy at a level never before seen in humanity or insist that Bush is a evil mastermind.

I've seen Bush try to dance, he's an idiot.
 
bush and all of his friends were already rich and very powerful. why would he end his political career, smearing his family name and those around him to gain an extra penny he doesn't even need? use common sense kiddos. as for saying rallying people for iraq, you are a dumbass. same shit would have happened anyways. not like any of these douche bags on this site that believe in conspiracy would have done anything about it.
 
i thought that according to some of that shit universities are under the influence of bush and such?

and im not taking sides here just throwing that in there. If the WWIII is coming i need to break out my katana and ninja skills
 
....seriously?

patriotism is PRIDE IN ONE'S COUNTRY, where the fuck else would american patriotism come from?

I'm with Journey on this one. Skipimp, your facts are as coincidental as that web page someone posted earlier, saying that 9+4+3+5+6 plus the inverse tangent of 30 is equal to the name of one of the highjackers
 
erm, theres a little glitch on that 9/11 thing. that being 6 of the "suicide bombers" are still alive and were not involved. the official list never changed though. still, building 7 has no explanation, thats a classic controlled demolition. so wtf..?
 
its ok, you guys really dont phase me, seriously, theose questions you asked are answered in the links i provided. Serioudly, unless you watch them, Im not talking to you anymore, its pointless discussing something you havent seen!! I know the Americans are brainwashed... Theres no TV where I live, I don't get subjected to a stream of brainwashing.

you have yet to post a link to any article, proof, or anything. You said the burden of proof is on me. I provided it. Talk about it. Oh, wait you didn't watch them cause youre too lazy and think you know what goes on all around the world cause CNN is such an informative source of information.

Please post your ages if you dare.

 
I've watched them. I agree that theres a lot of unanswered questions and some aspects that the government is mysteriously adamant about keeping secret. However, I just dont submit to the whole conspiracy thing.

Heres what I think. These people have done their research. They're very smart. They've made a interesting case based on the events. However, just because its possible doesnt mean it actually happened. Yes, it could be a massive conspiracy. Or it could be that 9/11 was perpetrated by terrorists and that the government is keeping stuff secret because our administration likes to cover its own ass.

Another aspect of your argument is that everyone else is somehow blind or stupid to facts. People are smarter than you would tend to think. Its just that if all this stuff was actually going on, wouldnt the world have seen at least one conspiracy of this size sometime in human history exposed? Mass deception on this level just cannot happen, because people are human, and sooner or later, someone would fuck up and expose it all.
 
I am definitely with Rowen on this one.

Additionally, as Rowen pointed out earlier, the burden of proof is on you. My friend got an article published in a scholarly journal in January. He didn't provide his theory to them and then tell them to prove him right, he submitted his article and he also submitted the research he had backing it. You make a claim, you back it up. This is science, you're wrong untill you can prove you are right. You're in university, you should know by now that proof isn't videos on the internet. Publications in scholarly journals and other literature on the subject are acceptable.

Additionally, although I don't really want to take it here, what is your degree in? My degree is in Materials Engineering, so I'll go out on a limb and say I have a better understanding of the subject than 99% of this site.

Oh, and since you dared me, I'm 20.
 
if youre so intent on spreading the word and getting people to believe you, why are you on NS?

just shut up because were all getting pretty tired of youre bullshit.

and by the way, im very liberal. i dont think al queida is the good guy, and there is no way in hell 9/11 was

planned by the government. George Bush isnt smart enough.
 
"On about a third of the face

to the center and to the bottom — approximately 10 stories — about 25

percent of the depth of the building was scooped out." -NIST's Sunder

straight out of the official report kiddo. of course they're not going to show you that in the conspiracy videos. that's why you have to do your own research instead of following blindly like some idiots...

one view...

Z-1.jpg


another angle of the building...

wtc7swd.jpg


more official reports of knowing about the collapse before hand. reason nothing was done about the fire inside the building. these are facts, not opinions, facts. on record, official reports... so on so forth. doesn't matter though because all ski pimp is going to do is say "THE GOVERNMENTS MADE UP THE REPORTZ!!!" so believe what you want, not my worries if you look retarded.

 
hahahahah. you didn't provide any proof. you claiming you "provided it" just proves to everyone how retarded you really are.
 
We have yet to choose a topic to talk about? What are we talking about here, How can I provide specific proof if you dont choose a topic?

Bush didn't think it up silly.

If youre so sick of my shit, why do you keep posting, and How can posting links cause so much controversey if it is all bullshit.

When information is available so readily, it is impossible to cover a conspiracy of this size, thats why its not working!!!!!!!

its the same formula theyve been using for hundreds of years, its just now, its not working out so nicely as it used to.

My Degree is in international tourism managament
 
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