Whole lotta sellouts

14520052:bogust said:
The difference is despite Quattro being an ad it’s still sick as fuck original content while skiing TikTok is low effort copy and pasted marketing.
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*marketing that works.

That audi ad prob cost $500k maybe even more. Candide got his cut, but most of that went to whomever produced the video.

Brands advertise on Ig and TikTok because its stupid cheap and it works.
 
Yeah dude I remember the old days too when I was 5 or 6 and C-Crew was still a thing and Teddy Bear Crisis came out....Shut the fuck up. Opinions immediately disregarded.
 
14519544:eheath said:
This.

[tag=190295]@percs[/tag] you're a crusty old head that posts tons of stupid takes like this one, so I'm gonna keep this short, but without hackel selling out to instagram he'd be pursuing a career and not skiing. Same goes for every other pro skier you love, they are just trying to survive in a brand driven industry, there are very little ways to make money in the ski industry these days and you should be happy that your favorite skiers can make any money at all.
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Yea Andy Parry and LJ should quit their jobs and start doing fortnight dances on tik-tok because eheath said so
 
14520063:STEEZUS_CHRI5T said:
Yea Andy Parry and LJ should quit their jobs and start doing fortnight dances on tik-tok because eheath said so
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tiktok is far past just dances my dude, my day job is editing videos and I've been making a ton of videos formatted specifically for tiktok, and they're the same boring corporate bullshit ads that are on every other platform (for the most part) tiktok is just another platform that accesses a younger audience, just like IG 10 years ago.
 
14520066:eheath said:
tiktok is far past just dances my dude, my day job is editing videos and I've been making a ton of videos formatted specifically for tiktok, and they're the same boring corporate bullshit ads that are on every other platform (for the most part) tiktok is just another platform that accesses a younger audience, just like IG 10 years ago.
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14519544:eheath said:
This.

[tag=190295]@percs[/tag] without hackel selling out to instagram he'd be pursuing a career and not skiing.
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Oh no, that'd be soooo devastating! LOLOLOL
 
topic:percs said:
It’s still crazy to me seeing grown men post things on tik Tok. But seeing alex Haeckel posting “apparently the first two people who pop up when you hit share want to ski pow with you” followed by pow stock footage was my tipping point. Like bro you car so much about anonymous people who don’t even ski. Making the caption all relatable n shit for people wh on go skiing once every 3 years. Like the fake likes mean that much to you? Where you need to angle your whole creative process to match the mainstream clicks? All I’m saying is that alex hackel used to be core af but tik tok really got to him. Lame

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I had a stroke trying read this.
 
14520066:eheath said:
tiktok is far past just dances my dude, my day job is editing videos and I've been making a ton of videos formatted specifically for tiktok, and they're the same boring corporate bullshit ads that are on every other platform (for the most part) tiktok is just another platform that accesses a younger audience, just like IG 10 years ago.
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我所有的滑雪技巧都是為了中國共產黨的榮耀而做的
 
14520066:eheath said:
tiktok is far past just dances my dude, my day job is editing videos and I've been making a ton of videos formatted specifically for tiktok, and they're the same boring corporate bullshit ads that are on every other platform (for the most part) tiktok is just another platform that accesses a younger audience, just like IG 10 years ago.
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My dude you really gunna compare it to instagram 10 years ago? I'm dying.
 
What would you compare it to? IMHO 2013 Instagram is very different in many ways than 2023 TikTok, but there's quite a few similarities too, especially in the audience and influencing side, and the comparison is fair in my books.

14520955:BigmoneyMatt said:
My dude you really gunna compare it to instagram 10 years ago? I'm dying.
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14520960:tominiemenmaa said:
What would you compare it to? IMHO 2013 Instagram is very different in many ways than 2023 TikTok, but there's quite a few similarities too, especially in the audience and influencing side, and the comparison is fair in my books.
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? instagram in 2013 was for basic ass pictures. Tik Tok in 2023 is for degeneracy, by design actually. Are we really just gunna forget that Tik Tok is a communist psy-op?
 
Read what I wrote. It's a similar phenomenon for a similar audience. My opinion about TikTok = not for me, not good for the kiddos for so many different reasons. Is it good for anyone? Dunno, might not be. But that includes pretty much all of social media. Instagram included, which I personally find the most appealing.

14520960:tominiemenmaa said:
What would you compare it to? IMHO 2013 Instagram is very different in many ways than 2023 TikTok, but there's quite a few similarities too, especially in the audience and influencing side, and the comparison is fair in my books.
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14520965:BigmoneyMatt said:
? instagram in 2013 was for basic ass pictures. Tik Tok in 2023 is for degeneracy, by design actually. Are we really just gunna forget that Tik Tok is a communist psy-op?
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14520965:BigmoneyMatt said:
? instagram in 2013 was for basic ass pictures. Tik Tok in 2023 is for degeneracy, by design actually. Are we really just gunna forget that Tik Tok is a communist psy-op?
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Yea I don't get where we got into the marketing side of things. The pushback on Tik-Tok is because it's a breeding ground for the most fake and narcissistic content ever created. It's addicting and bad for your mental health but people justify it because of money? Since when is selling out okay?
 
14520955:BigmoneyMatt said:
My dude you really gunna compare it to instagram 10 years ago? I'm dying.
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When it comes to marketing and brands using social media to advertise, it's literally the exact same thing, you don't know shit other than that TikTok is owned by a Chinese company, which has nothing to do with the dances, the cringe content or the marketing value.

Next time don't try to argue about something you know absolutely nothing about.
 
14520994:STEEZUS_CHRI5T said:
Yea I don't get where we got into the marketing side of things. The pushback on Tik-Tok is because it's a breeding ground for the most fake and narcissistic content ever created. It's addicting and bad for your mental health but people justify it because of money? Since when is selling out okay?
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And Instagram doesn't? OK
 
14521109:mitt.nedlum said:
So you admit that both platforms do this but are still defending it?
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I don't understand what you think I'm defending, both ig and TikTok are huge advertising platforms, that's a fact.
 
14521112:eheath said:
I don't understand what you think I'm defending, both ig and TikTok are huge advertising platforms, that's a fact.
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I understand what you are saying, both platforms are huge for advertising for sure. I was referring to you defending skiers for selling out
 
14521119:mitt.nedlum said:
I understand what you are saying, both platforms are huge for advertising for sure. I was referring to you defending skiers for selling out
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Ill say it again, what would you expect the skiers to do otherwise? They either play the game or they're working 8 months out of year to support skiing 'professionally'.

gotta make money somehow man, not sure what y'all are expecting your favorite "core" skiers to do without selling out.
 
14521121:eheath said:
Ill say it again, what would you expect the skiers to do otherwise? They either play the game or they're working 8 months out of year to support skiing 'professionally'.

gotta make money somehow man, not sure what y'all are expecting your favorite "core" skiers to do without selling out.
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Just fuck off already, eheath. This is getting fucking pathetic.
 
topic:percs said:
It’s still crazy to me seeing grown men post things on tik Tok. But seeing alex Haeckel posting “apparently the first two people who pop up when you hit share want to ski pow with you” followed by pow stock footage was my tipping point. Like bro you car so much about anonymous people who don’t even ski. Making the caption all relatable n shit for people wh on go skiing once every 3 years. Like the fake likes mean that much to you? Where you need to angle your whole creative process to match the mainstream clicks? All I’m saying is that alex hackel used to be core af but tik tok really got to him. Lame

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Steve made a whole video on this. There’s just not enough money in sports like skiing snowboarding and skating and so if posting some clips on tiktok can help a pro make a living skiing and not have to work a second job I’m not hating at all.
 
14521148:skierman said:
Just fuck off already, eheath. This is getting fucking pathetic.
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you literally giving me shit for nothing, you fuck off already your god damn nerd
 
14521156:CoolChillGuy420 said:
Ya hate to see it.
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NS would be stupid to not make a TikTok is literally the only way to advertise to the younger generation. They have had a TikTok for a couple years now.
 
Yeah fuck these sellout skiers. They should all be poor and core. Anyways, breaks over gotta get back to my 9-5 corporate shill job.

Fucking hypocrite
 
14521229:STEEZUS_CHRI5T said:
You guys are right, I'm cool with Tik Tok now because money
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If you think this kind of content doesn't exist on other platforms you're just willfully ignorant. TikTok is just like ig, you can choose what you look at, you chose to pick out the most cringe content possible, you could do that on ANY platform. The more you post, the more I realize you are a complete moron.
 
14521253:eheath said:
If you think this kind of content doesn't exist on other platforms you're just willfully ignorant. TikTok is just like ig, you can choose what you look at, you chose to pick out the most cringe content possible, you could do that on ANY platform. The more you post, the more I realize you are a complete moron.
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You're in your late 30's arguing every week with teenagers and guys in their 20's. The worst part is that it's always for no reason. It has to be exhausting living like this.
 
14521286:STEEZUS_CHRI5T said:
You're in your late 30's arguing every week with teenagers and guys in their 20's. The worst part is that it's always for no reason. It has to be exhausting living like this.
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nice deflection my dude, sorry that I want to inform the young lads like yourself with knowledge I have collected over the years, you're the one who is being a child and crying about social media.
 
14521289:eheath said:
nice deflection my dude, sorry that I want to inform the young lads like yourself with knowledge I have collected over the years, you're the one who is being a child and crying about social media.
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thank you for informing us!
 
like ig, twitter, fb, and sc aren't? theyre all designed to be addictive, make ppl forget about the real world, and steal your meta-data lol

feels like tiktok is as much a chinese psyop as facebook is an american one

14520965:BigmoneyMatt said:
? instagram in 2013 was for basic ass pictures. Tik Tok in 2023 is for degeneracy, by design actually. Are we really just gunna forget that Tik Tok is a communist psy-op?
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14521191:eheath said:
NS would be stupid to not make a TikTok is literally the only way to advertise to the younger generation. They have had a TikTok for a couple years now.
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I love how these kids shit on tiktok but are spending all their time on there building up this fantasy stigma about it. Very interesting.
 
14521488:fucintight said:
like ig, twitter, fb, and sc aren't? theyre all designed to be addictive, make ppl forget about the real world, and steal your meta-data lol

feels like tiktok is as much a chinese psyop as facebook is an american one
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Yeah didn't say they weren't. Also it doesn't feel llike anything buddy. TikTok LITERALLY IS a chinese psy-op.
 
14521780:BigmoneyMatt said:
Yeah didn't say they weren't. Also it doesn't feel llike anything buddy. TikTok LITERALLY IS a chinese psy-op.
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While I wouldnt be surprised if the CCP was taking data from tiktok, its nothing that China couldn't already buy in the first place, if someone wants your data is just costs money, you already gave it up years ago.
 
Legit, this alias got created cause I was turned away from NS content production for money. They told me to use FB and IG , downrated my media and blasted me off the site.

No worries, I stay core and ski BC with a tent and sleeping bag, sure I'm jealous of the brapper lapped pow edits, but when I get to the next gas station with free wifi, I'll post a fire edit
 
facebook is legitimately targeting people for engagement by getting them mad. tiktok is doin the same. psyop means the chinese government is manipulating people to... do what? not fuck w america?

it's not hard to have anti-american sentiment already because of all the fucked up shit it's done. the 'tt is a psyop' take is just played tf out.

why do we gotta pretend typical late stage capitalist surveillance state/ai shit is a conspiracy when there's legitimate conspiracy shit happening that no one cares about?

14521780:BigmoneyMatt said:
Yeah didn't say they weren't. Also it doesn't feel llike anything buddy. TikTok LITERALLY IS a chinese psy-op.
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I think a lotta the hate too comes from the fact that now posting to these social sites makes everyone feel like they need to be their own brand, amongst viewers, people's friends, or for their sponsors. Most of the time, I think people just want to have fun and be skiers, not billboards, tiktokers, dancers, djs, or whatever else is on social
 
14521782:eheath said:
While I wouldnt be surprised if the CCP was taking data from tiktok, its nothing that China couldn't already buy in the first place, if someone wants your data is just costs money, you already gave it up years ago.
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China is a fascist state, the industry is directly connected to the state. China has been gunning for complete cyber domination for years and are recently over the past 5 or so years becoming successful.
 
14521782:eheath said:
While I wouldnt be surprised if the CCP was taking data from tiktok, its nothing that China couldn't already buy in the first place, if someone wants your data is just costs money, you already gave it up years ago.
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Death by decadence. Our society is on a path of self destruction and china only wishes to speed up the process. That's the ultimate goal of china. Chinas ever growing imperialism covers all aspects, not only boundaries (in the south sea and japanese isles) culture(the oppression of minority cultures within it's borders) cyberspace (sabotage of western ideology, the implantation of hedonistic)

Even the idea of individualism is inherently evil, if every man, every woman, every child of a nation exists only for themselves then that society is broken at its core. Our self-indulgence hits new heights everyday, everyday we stray further from a purpose, everyday.

Our society will fail, soon. Our caeser is already dead, next step imperialism, next to that the fall of society as a whole.
 
TikTok sucks and I can't stand actually watching it, but I let my fiance run one for me because it's by far and away the easiest platform to get a lot of views on, which leads to brand deals, with leads to $$.

That being said, it's also super easy to not post cringe shit on it and that Hackel post sounds pretty damn cringe lmao.
 
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