Who is the GOAT

Depends on the medium, but:

All around: Candide

Big Jumps: Bobby Brown

Pipe: Dumont/ Hall (though I have always loved watching Dumont more, Hall has more wins)

Rails/Urban: *fill in the blank*
 
13764744:Dole said:
Candide

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thank god that was the first comment. you are correct sir. he has done more for the sport than many others.

* Chad's Gap

* Going Huge on kickers at his invitational

* Going huge on gap to rail with rotation

* Going huge in the pipe comp with CR really changed how pipe was viewed by people for skiers

* Taking it to a backcountry contest and crushing it

* OOTD edits set the bar pretty high as well

* Few Words was the best documentary of skiing (outside of McConkey)
 
this is a goat

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13765503:MyLifeIsAwesome said:
Shane McConkey

McConkey destroyed every facet of skiing. What I particularly like was his billygoating, something which takes incredible technical skills to do. He could do anything, but his billygoating is some of the greatest skiing I have ever seen.

Candide has been mentioned and I will agree. I will add his Freeride World Tour success to the other things I have seen people bring up. Winning FWT events is absolutely incredible to watch. I don't think anyone else has won FWT events AND x games medals in slopestyle, although I could be wrong.

Jonny Moseley should be getting support. Won an Olympic medal. Changed an Olympic discipline, a GREAT big mountain skier, watch TGR's The Realm if you don't believe me. He was trading lines with Nobis and Jones and holding his own, something most of the guys who came from the park to big mountain have never been able to do. I believe he also won an x games medal although I'm not sure. At one point he was definitely the best all-around skier in the world. I wish he had stayed with skiing after 2002, he might still be the best if he had.

Sage. The best spine skier ever. He also mixes tricks into lines and can ski the park. When Tanner Hall calls you the best skier in the world, and he has called Sage that, that says something.

Daron Rahlves. It is a real shame Rahlves never won an Olympic downhill or Super G medal. He was definitely good enough to do it, and if he had he would have been remembered as one of the great speed event guys ever, which he was. He is also one of the best big mountain skiers in the world. Like Moseley he could have made it as a pure big mountain skier, something which cannot be said of many of the 'all-around' skier guys. Being that great a racer and that great a big mountain skier gives him a good argument for being the best ever. There have been better racers but no Olympic racer has gone over to the big mountain realm and dominated the way Rahlves has.

Henrik Windstedt. Almost made the Swedish Olympic team as a bumper. Competed in slopestyle events. Won Freeride World Tour events and the overall FWT title one year. Does tricks off of AK spines. Can also destroy AK lines without putting tricks into them. He is another guy who could have made it as a pure big mountain skier, not someone who was a park guy who got a shot to ski in a heli because of his sponsor.

Seth Morrison. Skis big mountain at absolutely the highest level. No one does tricks off of the size of cliffs in the middle of lines the way Seth does. There are guys who are doing more technical tricks in big mountain lines but no one does tricks off giant cliffs like Seth.

Richard Permin. In Superheroes of Stoke one of the MSP guys leads off Permin's part by saying he has never seen anyone ski at the absolute highest level of park skiing and the absolute highest level of big mountain skiing at the same time. That says something.
 
13765863:dan4060 said:
Candide has been mentioned and I will agree. I will add his Freeride World Tour success to the other things I have seen people bring up. Winning FWT events is absolutely incredible to watch. I don't think anyone else has won FWT events AND x games medals in slopestyle, although I could be wrong.

you forgot that candide has pipe and big air golds in xgames as well as slope. in pipe he pioneered going huge while tricking. us old farts all remember that battle with CR very well with both of them going to the moon. on top of that, first to stick chad's gap.
 
13766481:Ryanvdonk said:
you forgot that candide has pipe and big air golds in xgames as well as slope. in pipe he pioneered going huge while tricking. us old farts all remember that battle with CR very well with both of them going to the moon. on top of that, first to stick chad's gap.

I remember those battles with CR well. When he and Candide were going huge the winter action sports world took notice. Those battles showed just how big skiers could go. CR would be another candidate for this list if he had never gotten hurt, very sad.

Candide did a d-spin over Chad's back in 2000 I think. TGR has footage of it from their movie back then.
 
13765863:dan4060 said:
McConkey destroyed every facet of skiing. What I particularly like was his billygoating, something which takes incredible technical skills to do. He could do anything, but his billygoating is some of the greatest skiing I have ever seen.

Candide has been mentioned and I will agree. I will add his Freeride World Tour success to the other things I have seen people bring up. Winning FWT events is absolutely incredible to watch. I don't think anyone else has won FWT events AND x games medals in slopestyle, although I could be wrong.

Jonny Moseley should be getting support. Won an Olympic medal. Changed an Olympic discipline, a GREAT big mountain skier, watch TGR's The Realm if you don't believe me. He was trading lines with Nobis and Jones and holding his own, something most of the guys who came from the park to big mountain have never been able to do. I believe he also won an x games medal although I'm not sure. At one point he was definitely the best all-around skier in the world. I wish he had stayed with skiing after 2002, he might still be the best if he had.

Sage. The best spine skier ever. He also mixes tricks into lines and can ski the park. When Tanner Hall calls you the best skier in the world, and he has called Sage that, that says something.

Daron Rahlves. It is a real shame Rahlves never won an Olympic downhill or Super G medal. He was definitely good enough to do it, and if he had he would have been remembered as one of the great speed event guys ever, which he was. He is also one of the best big mountain skiers in the world. Like Moseley he could have made it as a pure big mountain skier, something which cannot be said of many of the 'all-around' skier guys. Being that great a racer and that great a big mountain skier gives him a good argument for being the best ever. There have been better racers but no Olympic racer has gone over to the big mountain realm and dominated the way Rahlves has.

Henrik Windstedt. Almost made the Swedish Olympic team as a bumper. Competed in slopestyle events. Won Freeride World Tour events and the overall FWT title one year. Does tricks off of AK spines. Can also destroy AK lines without putting tricks into them. He is another guy who could have made it as a pure big mountain skier, not someone who was a park guy who got a shot to ski in a heli because of his sponsor.

Seth Morrison. Skis big mountain at absolutely the highest level. No one does tricks off of the size of cliffs in the middle of lines the way Seth does. There are guys who are doing more technical tricks in big mountain lines but no one does tricks off giant cliffs like Seth.

Richard Permin. In Superheroes of Stoke one of the MSP guys leads off Permin's part by saying he has never seen anyone ski at the absolute highest level of park skiing and the absolute highest level of big mountain skiing at the same time. That says something.

You know your shit man !! Henrik Windsted was the man
 
13765863:dan4060 said:
Jonny Moseley should be getting support. I believe he also won an x games medal although I'm not sure.

I think he came in 2nd to JF Cusson in first skier X games big air in Crested Butte in 1999. He won US Open Slope in like 2003ish.

He also should have won 2002 bumps with his rodeo 7. Though I think him naming it a dinner roll was reason enough to keep him off the top spot. Then it was pretty much all downhill from there...

He doesn't have the resume' of Candide, but has anybody mentioned Sean Petit?
 
13766589:dan4060 said:
I remember those battles with CR well. When he and Candide were going huge the winter action sports world took notice. Those battles showed just how big skiers could go. CR would be another candidate for this list if he had never gotten hurt, very sad.

Candide did a d-spin over Chad's back in 2000 I think. TGR has footage of it from their movie back then.

Its in Few Words and I played back his D-spin too many times cause I never saw it before. Absolute animal the dude is, Its definitely one of my favorite movies of all time.

He also posted shots from him skiing mammoth last year on his instagram today and he can still flow together park lines like theyre nothing coupled with the fact he is an all-mountain destroyer. Definitely my all-time favorite.

guys like Thall, Pep, EP, CR, and others that pioneered a unique style of backcountry freeriding need to get some appreciation, too.

Shane has to be up there.

Cannot forget Sarah Burke, though. A pioneer in not only womens skiing but freeskiing in general and I know plenty of girls who ski that would say that shes the one that really got them stoked on skiing. Shes a legend in my book.
 
13766812:snomaster said:
He also should have won 2002 bumps with his rodeo 7. Though I think him naming it a dinner roll was reason enough to keep him off the top spot. Then it was pretty much all downhill from there...

He definitely should have won in 2002. The funny thing is, his 720 was scored below Janne's 5 twist because the judges were going off absurd criteria. After Moseley lost in 2002 they realized their error and changed the way the judging was done. Moseley skied the bumps perfectly and nailed an off-axis 720, after they changed the judging criteria Moseley would have won. Bump skiing is insane now, Moseley changed things for the better, it just sucks he did not get the credit he deserved.
 
13766634:ozzywrong said:
You know your shit man !! Henrik Windsted was the man

I would love to see Henrik and Candide in the same movie. I don't know how it would happen, they have different sponsors, but it would be sick. At the very least I want Candide to do another Candide Kamera and Henrik to ski for MSP again. It would be nice to see those guys get full parts.

Here is some footage from the 2010 Red Bull Linecatcher, which Candide won.
 
13765863:dan4060 said:
Henrik Windstedt. Almost made the Swedish Olympic team as a bumper. Competed in slopestyle events. Won Freeride World Tour events and the overall FWT title one year. Does tricks off of AK spines. Can also destroy AK lines without putting tricks into them. He is another guy who could have made it as a pure big mountain skier, not someone who was a park guy who got a shot to ski in a heli because of his sponsor.

He also competed in Xgames (both slope and pipe) and did as well as 5th place. Definitely the most underrated skier being discussed in this thread.
 
It's a fucking travesty that all these names got thrown around, but no mention of Sammy.
 
13767579:Session said:
It's a fucking travesty that all these names got thrown around, but no mention of Sammy.

You can certainly throw his name in there. He is amazing at every form of freeskiing. Big mountain. Backcountry. Park. I bet he did some urban stuff too. I hope everyone here has seen the Sammy C. Project. That is some amazing skiing. I would also encourage everyone to watch To Be. It is pretty sick. Google it.
 
13764762:skidemon22 said:
Depends on the medium, but:

All around: Candide

Big Jumps: Bobby Brown

Pipe: Dumont/ Hall (though I have always loved watching Dumont more, Hall has more wins)

Rails/Urban: *fill in the blank*

Rails/Urban: Shea Flynn, Andrew Hathaway, Vanular
 
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