They are a very solid and fun ski. They are noticably stiffer than Hellbents or EP Pros. They feel very at home dropping cliff and skiing fast. They dont have quite as much rocker as the Hellbents or EP pros, but it does the job. They also ski switch in pow like a dream. The only downside that I found with them was that they were pretty heavy. If you get them, get them mounted dead center, charge shit, and land switch with ease where-ever whenever.