pimps. such a sick ski. i may pick up a pair for all mountain next year. the urban punx are too skinny for all around, and the thugs are too wide for park, but they are playful, sorta like bacon's i have heard but more pow oriented. those 3 skis are like the sickest quiver you could possibly have though. i would love to have a pair of thugs, but we dont get no pow in CT