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PJ

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Ok, this past christmas i got some line 1260s, and ive really improved. Ive started to ski in the park exclusively. I can spin up to a 540, take of backwards, as well as land backwards. Youl probably all say 'you suck' or something of that nature, but i dont really care. Ide like to know where to go from here. First off i need some advice on going bigger, ive got some bad experieces that discourage me. What should i do to get more confident about airs? also, should i improve the style of my spins, or go for a 720 or higher? Anyways, i cant ski till winter (lol) so no rush! Is there anything i can do on like trampoline or in pool? (practice spins with grabs) or is that just stupid for where im at? Thanx! :-)

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i say perfect the basics before going big. youll be safer that way, and you will look and be better as well. practice as many variations as possible on your spins, and add in different grabs. once you feel bored with everything else, then move on to the bigger stuff.

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Try doing some trampoline or diving board. I think it really helps your air awareness and spinning smooth. You can work on your head, arm and legs movement and learn a lot off snow. And of course, you can learn backflips, rodeos, corked spins without getting hurt.

 
if you haven't done rails, definitely learn them. also, learn the tricks you know now with more style, then move up to bigger tricks. there's no point in knowing 7's if your 3's aren't even styley

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yeah definately a trampoline

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oh yeah, and as for comfort in the air, you just gotta be confident in your self, and when you get to the apex of your air, think about doing what will help you land right, don't just panic.

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One way to go bigger is to get a false sence of security. It's always good to think you can go big and land it even if you can't. Get some knee braces, hip and spine padding, and go drink a beer or two before you go huck. Also trying stuff into soft snow never hurts...

Good luck.

 
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that's the worst advice i've ever heard. ski within your means if you want to be skiing for a long time.



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If you want to see fast progression, then you are going to have to push yourself a little bit.

If you stay in your comfort zone the whole time you will see little progress.

Granted, working on style is a great idea. But if that's all you do then you won't see a big improvement quickly.

While the person who said 'don't do a 7 until you can throw a stylish 3' has a good point, I don't entirely agree.

If you aren't comfortable with a good 360 or 540 then you should probably stick with it for a little while longer. Work with some more grabs, etc.

The thing is, if you try a 7 and push yourself. Chances are it won't look pretty the first few times. It'll be penciled out and hucked. Once you've pushed yourself and tried a new trick you can work on styling it out.

Once you are able to do a 720 ugly or not, it's so much easier to work on styling out a 360. Because a 360 is old news now, you don't have to think about the trick technically speaking.

You can work on perfecting your style at this point.

This is how I learned, and it's not for everyone, but it works.

Once you've learned a harder trick it's easier to work on styling out the less technical tricks.

Or you could just spend all your time in the park trying to perfect the tricks you know and never truly push yourself.

Stay in your means, push yourself a little each day, but don't kill yourself.

Remember, if you don't scare yourself at least once a day - then you aren't trying hard enough.

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My advice would be this:

DON'T ski the park exclusively. Do some carving and rip some pow, improve your skiing overall. This will come back to help in the park.

Learn rails.

I would advise you to start going bigger before you start learning any other tricks. Sure, you're good if you can do a 540, but doing a 5 over a 10-footer is a lot different than doing one over a 45-footer. Tricks are cool, but they won't get you respect unless you go big; plus, you can't advance to more technical tricks unless you're going big enough to complete them. So maybe just hit the bigger jumps in your park, straight air them, grab, whatever, and get used to being in the air. Then bring your tricks to that level.

And my final advice is- find a good jump on a good day next season, and huck a backflip. Easiest trick in the books. Check out some of the other discussions in the forum for advice on doing them if you need it.

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excellent advice kamikaze. Yah just work on bigger and bigger air. Get comfortable with the feeling in the air so tht you arnt waving your arms and kicking your feet like a wild man everytime you gap a 50 footer. And once you learn the backflip its a huge confidence booster.

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basically what I'm saying is that you are going to have to push yourself if you want to progress.

Kami has a great point and you should probably take it back to the basics (read article 'back to the basics') and build a strong foundation.

Once you are comfortable on your skis (powder skiing, carving, just hitting runs) and are comfortable with big jumps.

Tricks come so much easier.

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I'm more or less in the same position as PJ because I've been skiing my whole life, but only recently have I gotton in to park and jumping. I think this is great advice. but is the backflip really that easy? i always thought it looked harder.

 
yes it is very easy. You tilt your head backwards and push your hips forwards, but only after you pop. Just look in the trick tips

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i'm going to agree with kamikaze on this one. go rip up other parts of the mountain. if you can rip through a tight line of trees, it's going to help you with your balance and agility on the groomed.

depending on where you ski, cliff drops are good too, unless they're sketchy.

once you master the actual skiing part of skiing, the park should begin to get better for you.

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kamikaze and ghost dragon layed it down... go with them... but i mos def agree with ghost dragon on pushing yourself... i would suggest going out and fidning people who are much better then you and skiing with them, because naturally u try and keep and and by doing that you push yourself without really thinking about it.

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wow, Im kindof in the same position and next year im hoping to get backs really fast and then get my style and shit good with my 5s and 3s really well. At the same time I wanna learn more fakie stuff, Learn fakie 5s then go to 7s and then maybe try some unnatural stuff. After backflip it seems inverts will just come. I just need to see how flips feel on skis cuz i can do all the shit on a tramp. Going bigger is really important too and getting comfortable with big jumps. I need to stop being a pussy and go big. ALso, I live in Ottawa so I know we dont have the best powder or trees (understatement) but I spend a ton of time out of the park.

You cant imadgine what you can find in some trees if you look hard enough. Me and my friend found huge powder stashes deeper than knee deep (thats alot by our standards) just by veering off runs and hitting the forest that looks so dense and complex. Damn, the shit we found was so amazing. We found little cliffs (13 feet, fun) and it just boosts your skiing as a skier not a jibber. At MSM we found a stash so big we toopk runs all day in it and got first tracks every time, IN THE EAST! just look, youll be surprised, and if you live in the west, well, you're alll set.

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Thanks every one! I appreciate all the advice you guys have given me, and I cant wait to try some of it!

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wait till it snows, and build a jump into powder, you can go as big as you want, try some tricks and get airsense at the same time.

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I live in ontario, (The East) so we dont get too much powder around here. I know a field with a huge hill where i could make a pile though. Thanx for the thought.

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just go as fast as you can at the biggest jump you have in your park and huck a Dspin 12 opposite tail. its wicked easy

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