When should pre WTR certified FKS's release?

[Connor_Sullivan]

I understand the question I'm asking does rely on a bunch of factors, But I'm a bit concerned that i should have ejected from a ski with the DINs set at 8 when i skied over it and it crossed under my other leg smashing me face first into the snow. I'm using WTR soled boots and I'm curious if my boot jammed them up, or if The binding elasticity and angle was safe and subtle enough that my skis stayed on.

 

[Big_Mtn]

So you're using WTR soled boots in bindings that aren't designed for them? And you're wondering why they don't release?

 

[hot.pocket]

So you're using WTR soled boots in bindings that aren't designed for them? And you're wondering why they don't release?

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[charmander]

^ what they said.

Come on OP, what do you think the problem is?

 

[skidemon22]

dude, switch to a salomon sth2 13 and call it a day

 

[Connor_Sullivan]

Alright let me clarify my boot has soles that are ISO 5355 certified, and at the time FKS's weren't the duel cert bindings, but they could still take ISO 5355 soles.

 

[Lemuel]

Alright let me clarify my boot has soles that are ISO 5355 certified, and at the time FKS's weren't the duel cert bindings, but they could still take ISO 5355 soles.

So why are you bringing up WTR if it isn't even in the equation? ISO 5355 soles are standard alpine soles, every binding can take them (minus tech bindings).

 

[onenerdykid]

I'm using WTR soled boots and I'm curious if my boot jammed them up, or if The binding elasticity and angle was safe and subtle enough that my skis stayed on.

Alright let me clarify my boot has soles that are ISO 5355 certified, and at the time FKS's weren't the duel cert bindings, but they could still take ISO 5355 soles.

Alpine sole = ISO 5355

Touring sole = ISO 9523

WTR sole = ISO 9523

If you are using non-"Dual" FKS bindings, then the bindings are only meant for boots that are ISO 5355. They are not compatible with WTR soles because WTR is a subset of the touring norm.

 

[Connor_Sullivan]

Alpine sole = ISO 5355

Touring sole = ISO 9523

WTR sole = ISO 9523

If you are using non-"Dual" FKS bindings, then the bindings are only meant for boots that are ISO 5355. They are not compatible with WTR soles because WTR is a subset of the touring norm.

Gotcha, so even though my boots have lugs and are more like a WTR boot, they are considered alpine boots and should release like an alpine boot because they meet ISO 5355 specs

 

[onenerdykid]

Gotcha, so even though my boots have lugs and are more like a WTR boot, they are considered alpine boots and should release like an alpine boot because they meet ISO 5355 specs

You'll need to be specific with what boots are you using and what grip pads (soles) are on them. Post pics if you are unsure.

 

[Connor_Sullivan]

You'll need to be specific with what boots are you using and what grip pads (soles) are on them. Post pics if you are unsure.

They're Salomon X-Pro 100's

Cant seem to find a bottom picture but they have a large plastic plate centered on the toe piece for the AFD to slide on

 

[onenerdykid]

They're Salomon X-Pro 100's

Cant seem to find a bottom picture but they have a large plastic plate centered on the toe piece for the AFD to slide on

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If you are using the boots as they are pictured, then they are alpine norm ISO 5355. AKA, if you took them out of the box and went skiing, they are ISO 5355. These boots are only sold in the alpine configuration- they are not sold with WTR grip pads pre-installed.

In order to be using WTR grip pads, you would have needed to purchase them separately, remove the ISO 5355 ones, and then put the WTR ones on. WTR grip pads also have a rockered toe piece, just like a touring boot. This makes them noticeably/visibly different from standard alpine grip pads.

AFDs will be on both alpine and WTR (this is mainly what distinguishes a WTR grip pad from a standard touring sole).

 

[charmander]

what size boots? how big are you? is the forward pressure set correctly?

DIN is not a gurantee of accurate release, also, depending on the angle of your cross up its certainly possible that the binding wouldnt release even if set correctly.