What's wrong with skiing

Burrito

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I keep track of my random thoughts over at my blog. The other day I was thinking about how to correct the general public's perception of skiing. I couldn't find and answer, and here's what I jotted down as a result:

Skiing is a sport for rich kids. It

is an industry fueled by seven-figure families who take one weekend a

year to provide the rest of us with another example that they are

superior. At least, that's the view of the majority of the non-skiing

world. While these people are a part of the ski community, they are not

what drives it. At the core of the skiing world is a group of people

who love their sport for its most basic qualities. Their desire for

athleticism, serenity and a connection with nature creates an emotional

tie between sport and athlete not commonly seen in other "recreational"

activities. Skiers do not care about class; they care about their

sport. With the recent rise

of newschool skiing, a young crop of dedicated skiers see an increased

need to reverse the image of a sport largely seen as the province of

the privileged.

In the

case of a paradigm shift, it is useful to find a successful model to

use as a basis. Skiing has overwhelmingly turned to snowboarding as its

model. Over 25 years after its invention snowboarding is still viewed

as a counter-culture alternative to the posh world of skiing. Though

they exists in the same market as skiers, snowboarders are perceived as

people out ot have a good time, nothing more. This is the image the

skiing community wants to display, and it has consequently emulated

snowboarding. The men and women behind joint skiing and snowboarding

contests, the encouragement of off-piste skiing and new clothing styles

have worked to blend the line between skiers and boarders in an attempt

to latch on to the boarder image.

Snowboarding's rise, however,

cannot be effectively used to move the image of skiing to the place it

wishes to be. Snowboarding began as an alternative to skiing, which

was, at the time, beginning to become synonymous with wealthy

lifestyles. It's popularity rose up from the lower classes rather than

down from the upper. This method of garnering popular support is much

simpler. America, since its beginnings, has represented the everyman.

Though the privileged and the celebrity may not live like the factory

worker, it has always been important that they are not seen as

snobbishly superior. To achieve this, these classes have latched on to

the activities and customs of the lower classes. This especially

evident in the popularity of modern punk and country music. It is cool

for a celebrity earning millions to throw on a cowboy hat and talk

their love of the south or die their hair black and rage against the

machine. These are cultures that have risen to popularity from the

lower class.

Skiing is attempting the opposite. It is

the culture, not the counter-culture, and it wishes to move down the

ladder. It has been suggested that the rising price of day of skiing is

to blame and that simply lowering lift ticket and lodging prices will

improve skiing's image. But resorts cannot be blamed for raising

prices. They are run by businessmen out to make a profit. If people

will pay more, why not charge more? Lowering prices is only part of the

solution, as the entire culture surrounding skiing has evolved to

encourage its new image. Manufactured "ski towns" are lined with Louis

Vatton stores and $100-a-plate restaurants, and intermediate-level ski

systems can cost over $1000. This is not what makes skiing great, but

it is what has become associated with the sport.

So, what is the

solution? How can the skiing community convince the world that they are

not brigades of trust fund babies? In my search for an example of how

this can be done I have found nothing. Is skiing, then, doomed to be

misunderstood? Maybe. Maybe not. Newschool skiing has made inroads with

the country's youth, and the future looks brighter than it did ten

years ago. If I can ever find, or for that matter create, a model for

skiing to follow I will gladly share it. In the meantime, I will love

skiing as it should be loved...and do everything I can to let people

know what they're missing.
 
I just feel like there a plenty of people missing out on one of life's best experiences because they've been given the wrong impression.
 
That's deep man :)

But if you want to make skiing cheap, jsut get a job at a ski shop, half price gear as cheaper tickets to resorts as well (if the shop has a travel section), get the ucts straight from the supplier and you're set. That wipes off around $700+ (all depending on what you get of course)
 
ski prices are going down. a larger population of the youth are getting into the recreational activity as well as competitive sport. you don't need to attempt to make everything cheaper...although it would be nice to make lift tickets at least $20 cheaper, it's not really feasible in the economic state we're in right now.

Large resorts are hotspot for rich families, and they always have been. Until now, snowboarding was exploding in popularity, very much like how skiing is getting bigger now. I agree that there needs to be a downward shift in price but it will happen by itself as more people of lower economic status learn about how amazingly fun sliding down a snow-covered hill is.
 
Just have lotsa school ski trips or something, like 1 of my friends has been before but most of them are coming on the ski trip this year, it's going to be their first time and everything and will help to show them what the skiing lifestyle is about
 
i wish I was better at making funny pic for things like this... but...

im not

but hey, if anyone has a pic of a man beating a dead horse with a caption of repost of a repost, please feel free to fail me.
 
the cool thing about problems like this is that if you don't think of them as problems they don't exist.

bam, problem solved.
 
there arent enough "core" skiers/boarders to keep the whole snowsports industry alive. so you should be thanking tourists i guess
 
Yeah, thats interesting because my mom told me she never wanted to downhill ski because it was what wealthy people did and she didn't want to support it. She thinks it's cool what my brothers and I do though, because we are just having fun hanging out with our friends and doing an athletic activity. Props for posting something that long and in depth on NS, too. It shows you obviously care about the point you're trying to make.
 
i agree with the post above me If it werent for the weekend warriors and the people who ski once a year only the few highly deticated would be left and if this acctualy happend somehow(only hardcore ppl left) then prises would skyrocket to keep resorts and some brands alive
As much as i hate the newbs n the tourists they need to be there to keep skiing alive and eventually some of them will be as deticated as some of us
 
thats a fucking long thread... could some one summarize it i don't have the patience to read it

i think snowboarding is a rich kid sport as much as skiing... same with most other organized sports
 
thats a fucking long thread... could some one summarize it i don't have the patience to read it

i think snowboarding is a rich kid sport as much as skiing... same with most other organized sports
 
I agree with your post if you were to specify that this niche of skiing is driven by the people you described, but skiing as a whole is driven by middle-class families and baby boomers with disposable income.
 
Time is the solution. Anyone who is even slightly in the know knows there is a difference between the old-fashioned stereotypical view of skiing and what newschool is. As more people realize that snowboarding is no more hardcore or extreme than skiing, the image will change. Nobody will change the wealthy "upper class" people, they are usually very traditional, but the average person will soon see the other aspects of skiing. Once pipe skiing is in the olympics, I bet we'll see changes in the public view of our sport, for better or worse. At least they will understand us.
 
People are dumb i dont care how they view my sport i love skiing. but that first paragraph was so true when i was working at a ski shop the reps said that the industry standard in america is that the average skier skis 3 to 5 days a year. Which is total crap because we all ski so much a year. But what really pisses me off is that they use the 3 to 5 days a year thing to justify making boots thats last 26 to 30 days ( so they say 10 years).
 
Skiing will never be cheap there fore never mainstream

" America, since its beginnings, has represented the everyman" Yeah your right, native americans and black people arent actually people, just stepping stoness in the manifest destinty or tools depending on how u look at it.
 
I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that the majority of skiers are still snobby rich people. No doubt that free skiing is gaining a big following but I don't know if they outweigh the average family that throws on some jeans and a football hoodie to go skiing a few times a year. Same is to be said with snowboarding, but as stated in the original, snowboarding was brought up from the bottom, so its more accepted as eXtreme and rebellious. I think once a mainstream audience is exposed to free skiing things will start to shift. And its definitely getting close, no doubt. I think it will happen soon.
 
Yes, the average skier goes 3-5 times per season and is upper middle class. But so is the average snowboarder. Both sports obviously can't afford to lose this section of the market; if they did the industry wouldn't be financially viable. My point is that with the exact same type of consumer, snowboarding has created an image that is very different from skiing - one that more accurately reflects why people snowboard. If skiing wants to portray this type of image (a view that can be debated), however, emulating snowboarding is not the answer.
 
thats because alot fo the older movies portray skiing as a group of rich 50 year old going on a ski trip in a 5 million dollar lodge drinking coffee and doing one groomed run a day
 
usually when i tell people i ski, i then explain to them exactly what i'm talking about. just so they get the right idea and don't automatically think that i mean a kid who just goes side to side on the hill. sometimes in school i try to give presentations on skiing.
 
this again? skiing is what you make it, and what you want to think of it. people can easily ski for 300 dollars, which will land you a nice pair of last years skis and bindings, which is the same price as a snowboard and bindings.
 
It's not just older movies. Think of any cartoon you've ever seen someone skiing or snowboarding. The uptight bastard skis while the cool, down to earth hero boards.

And regarding ^ - May I reiterate one more time that in no way was I saying that skiing is too expensive.
 
wow longest thread ive ever read....

dont exactly know wat ur sayin but i love skiin but hate high prices... im not poor but im not rich at the same time and with skiin costin so much my bank account is lookin emptier and emptier. as for the image of skiin i rlly dont care wat people that dont ski think, i ski cus i wana ski
 
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