What's in your baggie? : a documentary on fake rave and festival drugs and what you can do about it.
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Turd.Ferguson
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i actually watched the whole thing. the hardest hitting parts were when the people were telling stories about people they knew that died. it was kind of rough. and it was kind of funny to see that only one test came up positive for true mdma and how most everything else was bath salts
-benedetto
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A good watch.
Bodhisattva_
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13136835:Turd.Ferguson said:
I hate how everyone refers to all synthetics as bath salts. Only MDPV is the "bath salt" drug. Most molly subs are Methylone or other similar analogs, MDPV is pretty fucking rare.
But anyway I didn't watch the vid just read the title and all I have to say is buy a fucking test kit. That's the only thing to do about it.
howlongcanausern
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13137928:Thizzle. said:
or not buy drugs from strangers...but that's not any fun now is it
-benedetto
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13137928:Thizzle. said:
13137928:Thizzle. said:
In the movie, the majority of the results came up bath salts which I assume incorporates a lot of lab drugs. The scary results are the 1 or 2 they showed that came up with nothing. That happened to a guy I know at a festival this past may. Took some random shit, was still tweaking the next morning and when tested, showed up no results.
13137950:momsspaghetti said:
Most people don't have shit for connections. Also honestly a lot of people buy the RC's from their friends. I had this chick at counterpoint insist that she bought her molly from "A trusted friend" I finally convinced her to let me test it and it was methylone. Not everyone knows they have bad shit. Especially these days when 3/4 of the shit or more is fake. Many people have never even done mdma. These days thinking that you're getting good shit just because you know the person is fucking retarded. Unless it's somebody that knows their shit, has a good connect and tests their shit.
I walked around festivals testing peoples shit for free or donations. At COunterpoint in 2012 I tested stuff all weekend and only found 3 people with real shit at a electronic music fest where everyone was doing lots of "molly".
Also just because you don't know somebody doesn't mean they have shit. Learn how to spot bunk shit and also bring a test kit. There's no substitute for it. They're cheap and very accessible. Hell people are walking around the fests selling them sometimes. I was going to bring a few hundred on the fest tour this year but I ended up leaving and skipping them all.
It blows my mind that people would rather gamble with their lives than buy a $20 kit that they can use for a while. Hell they could make their money back testing some other peoples stuff for them quick. And if it saves them from buying fake stuff once it more than pays for itself in $$$$ and could pay for itself in keeping you alive.
Also probably won't watch. The scene just makes my head hurt. IT's fucking sad seeing kids legit kids in their teens getting fucked up on random chemicals. I've seen enough kids having seizures in the middle of the crowd. It's just fucked.
/rant
-benedetto
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When I saw this thread, I thought of you, abortionator, and your long thread on this topic.
Unless my memory is fucked.
Unless my memory is fucked.
13138012:-benedetto said:
I'm sure I've made at least 1, and posted some of the same shit in a bunch. Also made quite a few on the drug war as well as doing outlines for people to help them right papers for college on the topic.
Our drug policies are ridiculous. But we still have the belief that change is impossible because "it's the way it's always been" or people are just herp derp heads up their buttholes.
YOLO
/abortionator out
Turd.Ferguson
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13137928:Thizzle. said:
fine thats what they were referring it in the movie but yeah whatever is yellow
It's sad to see so much sketchy drugs out there. I will say there was some sketchy press pills back in the day. I learned the smell of good ecstasy after a while. Almost like a sweet, root beer, licorice type smell, and it reeks. Even pressies with good moll in them absolutely stink but kinda good. Anyway.
fillup
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Test kit is worth the money.
That being said alot of kids think what they have eaten in the past was really good 'molly' and then when they eat actual mdma it doesn't get them the same weird RC high they had last time and get pissed.
Another thing id like to point out is people who diss on molly and then go and eat random tabs of what they think is LSD, its the same game people. Your 'heady white on white' could be anything as well, you don't know.
Everyone is a fucking expert after their first time.
That being said alot of kids think what they have eaten in the past was really good 'molly' and then when they eat actual mdma it doesn't get them the same weird RC high they had last time and get pissed.
Another thing id like to point out is people who diss on molly and then go and eat random tabs of what they think is LSD, its the same game people. Your 'heady white on white' could be anything as well, you don't know.
Everyone is a fucking expert after their first time.
13138161:jfp said:
Yeah. At the same time it can be more refined and still good. Generally the raw sass is that stinky licorice smell.
"Even pressies with good moll in them absolutely stink but kinda good"
That couldn't be farther from the truth. It all depends on what's in there. How much MDMA or MDA and what else. There are tiny ones that are nothing but mdma and a binder. Some are cut with things that add to it in a positive way if you know what they are. Some are just a cocktail of god knows what. There are definitely some really really really good pills out there.
Also with the whole thing going full circle I wonder if you almost have a better shot with pressies than powder in terms of the random person at a rave grabbing something with no testing.
13138168:fillup said:
I've witnessed that happen "I didn't roll the way I wanted to" lol wtf does that mean. Yeah peoples "acid" sketches me out. Even in the headier scene nothing is concrete but in the random oh yeah this kid has "acid" lol keep that shit away from me.
Glad I don't even do any of that stuff anymore. Too much bunk shit out there anyway. But I still would rather see it legalized and cleaned up for the people that do.
13138168:fillup said:
Totally. I used to try and ask around and watch people's reactions from certain batches, try to rely on smell, or even looks, some of those tabs and pointed pills just look like they are cheap with crappie art and dies, can almost tell when something looks sketch but still, you really never know. Wish that test kit was around in the 90's.
Bodhisattva_
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13138168:fillup said:
Exactly. This kid in my dorm last year was selling Methylone and I heard from this kid on my floor "it looks just like the molly I did last time and it was really good!"
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I got a point and tested it, straight up methylone. Most people never even get to see real MDMA. Watched another kid get some straight moon rock, tested, clean, MDMA and he was skeptical because it wasn't white powder.... smh
13139068:Thizzle. said:
It's hard not to say fuck em, they're getting what they deserve at that point. Sweet jesus it's frustrating.
Barefootin_Fiend
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man, i'm so glad that my molly and lsd days were long before RCs hit the scene. had a plug on that pure straight outta miami back in the day and shit was so fire....everyone should have the luxury of experiencing that.
13139204:Barefootin_Fiend said:
I had the fortunate opportunity to live in Eugene Oregon in the 90's during the greatful dead heyday. Gerry Garcias wife mountain girl is from Eugene so needles to say the town was absolutely saturated in the super LSD.
Multiple crystals avail, Czech, fluff, silver etc. All family LSD and available by the raw gram. Yikes.
Dolan.Escobar
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Ppl who sell fake shit should be shot in front of their families
PeppermillReno
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Im quoting everything the abortionator has said.
Make sure you buy mdma from a hippie over 30 years old that you know and know their friends and you will be fine.
Make sure you buy mdma from a hippie over 30 years old that you know and know their friends and you will be fine.
Bodhisattva_
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13139233:jfp said:
Fuck I am jealous. Had the chance to get a vial of liquid last year and it was amazing. Every time I have dosed since has been a disappointment since it was so good.