What Skis for Freeskiing and Park?

DanCody

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Looking for reviewers of this book section about skis. I'm completing edition #2 of "The Skiers Gift Book". (Edition 1 sold copies in 8 countries on Amazon.com.)

Reviewers' names (or Newschoolers' handles) will appear in the acknowledgements in this book, which will be sold worldwide.

Here it is...

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Freeskier—Park Skier

Here’s where the industry creates a lot of excitement targeting aspiring daredevils looking to show off their best tricks in the steeps, the deep, on jumps and terrain parks. If you think that sounds like a lot to ask of any single kind of ski, you’re right.

Everything I described a minute ago about matching skis with your ability and performance still applies.

You can begin to hone it on the best skis for you by answering one simple question: How much of your ski day will you spend in terrain parks grinding over rails, doing jumps and skiing backwards?

If you’ll be spending most of your day in the park, then you’ll be doing less high speed mountain skiing and more acrobatic moves. You’ll probably want skis that are more maneuverable—skis that are shorter, narrower and, if you’re going to be skiing backwards, tails that are upturned like the tips.

If, on the other hand, you’re going to be skiing with your hair on fire all over the mountain, jumping off cornices and blazing through the moguls, skiing whatever snow conditions come your way, you’re going to want a ski that’s more stable at higher speeds. That’s generally going to mean a ski that is longer and wider than if you only plan to ski in the park.

Of course, there are no absolutes with skis. With enough skill, you can get any kind of ski to do roughly anything you want. And, like I said a minute ago, the point is to have fun whatever you’re skiing on.

Just know that different kinds of skis definitely have predictable strengths. So, if your skis aren’t stable enough at higher speeds, your next pair should be longer and beefier. If you want more maneuverability, go shorter and lighter.

Of course, you can solve all your ski choice conundrums by collecting a quiver of two or more pairs of skis, each built to perform in different conditions.

If you’re still living on your parents’ dime, you’ll need to make the case to your folks that owning two pairs of skis is absolutely critical to your successful journey into adulthood.

If you’ve already left your parents’ nest, earn money and want to invest in several pairs of skis, congratulations! You’ve got lots of skis to choose from and too much money for your own good. Please unburden yourself of some of that financial responsibility by sending a check to Dan, last name spelled C-O-D-Y.

Thanks.

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Thanks for the reviews.

-Dan

**This thread was edited on Aug 23rd 2018 at 4:04:59pm

**This thread was edited on Aug 23rd 2018 at 4:06:24pm
 
First I'm gonna need to see pictures of you skiing with your hair on fire. That and the devil suit. Skiing in a devil costume is a good idea. Thank you.
 
This guy is right, these skis can do anything, bought 5 pairs for myself, my wife and 3 kids, and now we can all do blue squares and I think we're pretty close to black diamond territory.

13938471:abar said:
 
13938472:BigPurpleSkiSuit said:
This guy is right, these skis can do anything, bought 5 pairs for myself, my wife and 3 kids, and now we can all do blue squares and I think we're pretty close to black diamond territory.

But have you tried them in HD? HD baby.
 
Id say something about ski flex in there? Not just leave it with width and height of ski? Kinda vague and theres a lot more to it?...2 cents
 
Good suggestion, JasonLarryGuy. Thanks!

-Dan

13938482:jasonlarryguy said:
Id say something about ski flex in there? Not just leave it with width and height of ski? Kinda vague and theres a lot more to it?...2 cents
 
You're welcome. Here to inspire, even if it's OregonDead in a devil suit skiing. I want to see THAT!

-Dan

13938464:OregonDead said:
First I'm gonna need to see pictures of you skiing with your hair on fire. That and the devil suit. Skiing in a devil costume is a good idea. Thank you.
 
13938472:BigPurpleSkiSuit said:
This guy is right, these skis can do anything, bought 5 pairs for myself, my wife and 3 kids, and now we can all do blue squares and I think we're pretty close to black diamond territory.

Wow, is your whole family skiing in the terrain park? YOWZA BigPurpleSkiSuit!

-Dan
 
Unfortunately my knees are too old to jump on the big ramps these days, but my kids love going off the sides of those ramps in the terrain park. I dont get why they put metal pipes in the landings though. We just leave them there all day, and pick them up at 4 while my wife and I ski the rest of the mountain.

13938499:DanCody said:
Wow, is your whole family skiing in the terrain park? YOWZA BigPurpleSkiSuit!

-Dan
 
13938501:BigPurpleSkiSuit said:
Unfortunately my knees are too old to jump on the big ramps these days, but my kids love going off the sides of those ramps in the terrain park. I dont get why they put metal pipes in the landings though. We just leave them there all day, and pick them up at 4 while my wife and I ski the rest of the mountain.

I'm pretty sure the metal pipes in the landings are placed there by (drum roll...) local dentists trolling for patients? (Rimshot.)
 
13938482:jasonlarryguy said:
Id say something about ski flex in there? Not just leave it with width and height of ski? Kinda vague and theres a lot more to it?...2 cents

How much flex is 2 cents? Is that like a Vishnu?

13938498:DanCody said:
You're welcome. Here to inspire, even if it's OregonDead in a devil suit skiing. I want to see THAT!

-Dan

Yes me too. Unfortunately I grew out of my devil suit years ago and I'm not sure I can convince Mom to sew me a new one.
 
13938503:OregonDead said:
How much flex is 2 cents? Is that like a Vishnu?

Yes me too. Unfortunately I grew out of my devil suit years ago and I'm not sure I can convince Mom to sew me a new one.

Devil suit denial--that's just child abuse. Call the authorities.

-Dan
 
its somewhere between vishnu and a line blend last time I checked?

**This post was edited on Aug 23rd 2018 at 9:07:22pm
 
I take my profession very seriously Dan. The notion that a fellow colleague of mine would place those there in attempt to bring business to their practice by causing bodily harm to others is a very serious allegation.

13938502:DanCody said:
I'm pretty sure the metal pipes in the landings are placed there by (drum roll...) local dentists trolling for patients? (Rimshot.)
 
13938507:BigPurpleSkiSuit said:
I take my profession very seriously Dan. The notion that a fellow colleague of mine would place those there in attempt to bring business to their practice by causing bodily harm to others is a very serious allegation.

I hear you, BigPurpleSkiSuit. 99% of the time, my humor launches. That wasn't one of the them. Pardon my misfire.

-Dan

**This post was edited on Aug 23rd 2018 at 9:21:18pm
 
13938507:BigPurpleSkiSuit said:
I take my profession very seriously Dan. The notion that a fellow colleague of mine would place those there in attempt to bring business to their practice by causing bodily harm to others is a very serious allegation.

If you got more business you could afford the Soul 7 HD tho

HD
 
13938514:OregonDead said:
If you got more business you could afford the Soul 7 HD tho

HD

Hey OregonDead, dentists have a code, just like skiers. Gotta respect it. Let's move on to what makes the Soul 7 so great. NO ONE HAS EXPLAINED THAT.
 
13938515:DanCody said:
Hey OregonDead, dentists have a code, just like skiers. Gotta respect it. Let's move on to what makes the Soul 7 so great. NO ONE HAS EXPLAINED THAT.

When I took a trip out to Aspen with my family and asked for an advanced to expert ski, the shop employee recommended them straight away, so that was when I rented them for the first time. The first thing I noticed was the lightness of the ski was fantastic. My wife and kids always complained about how heavy their skis were, but this time, beautiful silence. I'm about a type 2 skier at this point, so I'm not your average Joe schmo. The ski was so responsive and when I took it off piste on a pretty deep 6 inch powder day, they were able to float so nicely too. At the same time, they held an edge quite wonderfully on a groomer day. I was able to make some turns through the bump on them too, although I'm no Glen Plake. I don't think I'm ever going to ski anything else quite honestly, maybe I'll get the new pair every few years though.

**This post was edited on Aug 23rd 2018 at 9:46:43pm
 
13938514:OregonDead said:
If you got more business you could afford the Soul 7 HD tho

HD

Perhaps someday when my kids are through college I'll have to take it for a test drive and decide if it's really worth the extra money. Car payments, mortgage, and Dentistry school debt have piled up, so even at the age of 45, I still have some ways to go before I can consider buying something so luxurious, although it is quite enticing.

**This post was edited on Aug 23rd 2018 at 9:55:05pm
 
13938518:BigPurpleSkiSuit said:
When I took a trip out to Aspen with my family and asked for an advanced to expert ski, the shop employee recommended them straight away, so that was when I rented them for the first time. The first thing I noticed was the lightness of the ski was fantastic. My wife and kids always complained about how heavy their skis were, but this time, beautiful silence. I'm about a type 2 skier at this point, so I'm not your average Joe schmo. The ski was so responsive and when I took it off piste on a pretty deep 6 inch powder day, they were able to float so nicely too. At the same time, they held an edge quite wonderfully on a groomer day. I was able to make some turns through the bump on them too, although I'm no Glen Plake. I don't think I'm ever going to ski anything else quite honestly, maybe I'll get the new pair every few years though.

**This post was edited on Aug 23rd 2018 at 9:46:43pm

Sounds like the perfect ski for your whole family, BigPurpleSkiSuit. Thanks for the details!

By the way, in the book, I tell parents not to start their kids skiing until the kids can carry their skis...and ideally pay for their lift tickets...and get mostly As on their report cards...and volunteer at homeless shelters.

You must be a stellar, generous dad.

-Dan
 
13938524:DanCody said:
Sounds like the perfect ski for your whole family, BigPurpleSkiSuit. Thanks for the details!

By the way, in the book, I tell parents not to start their kids skiing until the kids can carry their skis...and ideally pay for their lift tickets...and get mostly As on their report cards...and volunteer at homeless shelters.

You must be a stellar, generous dad.

-Dan

Thanks Dan,

I like to think I try my best. I hope you found what you were looking for for you new book! Looks like an awesome read!
 
13938515:DanCody said:
Hey OregonDead, dentists have a code, just like skiers. Gotta respect it. Let's move on to what makes the Soul 7 so great. NO ONE HAS EXPLAINED THAT.

Well (and ski magazine basically plagerized this straight from me), It's part of Rossi's highly successful 7 series, which has been drastically revamped with new technologies for 2013-14. Chief among them - and by far most visible - is Air Tip

Now there's an HD version. Rossi gives you the tip and you get it in HD.

We should really get back to talking about my new homemade devil costume.

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I'm thinking I could start with something like this union suit. Make it a onezie inspired by DominatorJacques.

I'll need some pockets though. Devil needs to have something up his sleeve.
 
My only critique of your writing would be to avoid using time when referring to earlier paragraphs. It’s like what I said a minute ago, even though it took me a year to write this book, and the reader read that page a week ago, it kind of doesn’t make sense.

but as far as skiing goes I don’t know much about that
 
So, Oregondead,

If you were to take the 7 series ski into either of the skiing situations I describe earlier, how would it perform and why?

And, the devil get up is definitely a chick magnet but carry a puppy, too. No one can resist a puppy.

-Dan

13938540:OregonDead said:
Well (and ski magazine basically plagerized this straight from me), It's part of Rossi's highly successful 7 series, which has been drastically revamped with new technologies for 2013-14. Chief among them - and by far most visible - is Air Tip

Now there's an HD version. Rossi gives you the tip and you get it in HD.

We should really get back to talking about my new homemade devil costume.

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I'm thinking I could start with something like this union suit. Make it a onezie inspired by DominatorJacques.

I'll need some pockets though. Devil needs to have something up his sleeve.
 
13938546:Casey said:
My only critique of your writing would be to avoid using time when referring to earlier paragraphs. It’s like what I said a minute ago, even though it took me a year to write this book, and the reader read that page a week ago, it kind of doesn’t make sense.

but as far as skiing goes I don’t know much about that

Casey, excellent advice! Thanks.

-Dan
 
13938506:DanCody said:
So abar, what do you like about the Soul 7s?

I like them because they are the preferred ski of Vail Resorts Mountain Safety, who I appreciate for pulling the pass of a young man who jumped off a cat track near my son. I wish they would move the metal pipes away from the snow ramps my son likes, but I haven't been able to get their attention, as they ski far too fast for me. I also trust the ski shop employee who rented them to me, as he possibly saved my life when he told me I would have blown out my knee if I left with the DINs still set to 6. He said he was a Marker Representative, I was very impressed! I have been told they are very light and responsive, which is good for my knees. I am also glad you can tell which direction is forwards, I don't want one of those backwards skis, they seem dangerous. I would tell you how they ski off piste, but I haven't done that since before dental school. I wish I could try some bumps, but I have to hold my son's leash so he doesn't run into one of those metal pipes or a snowboarder.
 
Another dentist! This is quite the concidence! How's your practice running these days abar

13938554:abar. said:
I like them because they are the preferred ski of Vail Resorts Mountain Safety, who I appreciate for pulling the pass of a young man who jumped off a cat track near my son. I wish they would move the metal pipes away from the snow ramps my son likes, but I haven't been able to get their attention, as they ski far too fast for me. I also trust the ski shop employee who rented them to me, as he possibly saved my life when he told me I would have blown out my knee if I left with the DINs still set to 6. He said he was a Marker Representative, I was very impressed! I have been told they are very light and responsive, which is good for my knees. I am also glad you can tell which direction is forwards, I don't want one of those backwards skis, they seem dangerous. I would tell you how they ski off piste, but I haven't done that since before dental school. I wish I could try some bumps, but I have to hold my son's leash so he doesn't run into one of those metal pipes or a snowboarder.
 
13938556:BigPurpleSkiSuit said:
Another dentist! This is quite the concidence! How's your practice running these days abar

Not good, I only made 4 mil last year because my son opened a practice on the same side of town
 
Awwwwww shucks, I guess sometimes they just want to go their own way. My 15 year old is really pushing back against the whole dentistry idea. He keeps telling me that he's making all this money posting videos of himself playing that new fortnite video game online, but he really needs to learn the value of hard work still.

13938558:abar. said:
Not good, I only made 4 mil last year because my son opened a practice on the same side of town
 
13938560:BigPurpleSkiSuit said:
Awwwwww shucks, I guess sometimes they just want to go their own way. My 15 year old is really pushing back against the whole dentistry idea. He keeps telling me that he's making all this money posting videos of himself playing that new fortnite video game online, but he really needs to learn the value of hard work still.

My third son plays fortnite way too much. He spends his $250 dollar allowance ever month on it within a few days. He keeps talking about someone named ninja, is that your son?
 
Dan have you taken a look at ski blades??!!! It appears they were a thing of the past but companies like moment have had the brilliant idea to bring them back!!! They're much easier to turn than the soul 7 ski. Not to brag but I used them in Snowbird in Utah (Suuuuuppppper extreme) and lapped the Gnar under the chikadee lift. They crushed it!! I was passing all the "goobers" who thought they were ready for that level of terrain. So in conclusion please add ski blades to the guide. :)
 
No, my sons name is Tyler

13938573:abar. said:
My third son plays fortnite way too much. He spends his $250 dollar allowance ever month on it within a few days. He keeps talking about someone named ninja, is that your son?
 
13938576:yuhyuh said:
Dan have you taken a look at ski blades??!!! It appears they were a thing of the past but companies like moment have had the brilliant idea to bring them back!!! They're much easier to turn than the soul 7 ski. Not to brag but I used them in Snowbird in Utah (Suuuuuppppper extreme) and lapped the Gnar under the chikadee lift. They crushed it!! I was passing all the "goobers" who thought they were ready for that level of terrain. So in conclusion please add ski blades to the guide. :)

Snowblades really are the best option for the serious mountaineer. I'll admit that I was a bit skeptical when the ski tech first showed them to me but I'm so glad I took his advice. When I'm loading up the Range Rover for the annual Vail trip it's nice to not have to worry about space because my snowblades fit perfectly in my Douchebags luggage (I love John Olsen's skiing channel). I ended up with a pair of K2 Fatties (I know overkill!) because they've got a 85 mm middle which is going to be great in pow-pow but still let me carve like Lindsay Vaughn. The pros at Sun and Ski Sports in Houston recommended that I get a pair for the wife too, she can't wait to show her favorite ski coach Andrés (he's from Chile!) during her private lesson!
 
Yuh yuh, I can't say I've ever been enthusiastic about ski blades but I could be turned around on this. They look fun for people who enjoy that kind of sliding.

Best,

Dan

13938576:yuhyuh said:
Dan have you taken a look at ski blades??!!! It appears they were a thing of the past but companies like moment have had the brilliant idea to bring them back!!! They're much easier to turn than the soul 7 ski. Not to brag but I used them in Snowbird in Utah (Suuuuuppppper extreme) and lapped the Gnar under the chikadee lift. They crushed it!! I was passing all the "goobers" who thought they were ready for that level of terrain. So in conclusion please add ski blades to the guide. :)
 
Erektion, thanks for your input. Does "mountaineering" refer to activities you would do in places beyond a downhill ski resort? If so, what else do you use snow blades for? Back country?

Thanks,

-Dan

13938583:-eREKTion- said:
Snowblades really are the best option for the serious mountaineer. I'll admit that I was a bit skeptical when the ski tech first showed them to me but I'm so glad I took his advice. When I'm loading up the Range Rover for the annual Vail trip it's nice to not have to worry about space because my snowblades fit perfectly in my Douchebags luggage (I love John Olsen's skiing channel). I ended up with a pair of K2 Fatties (I know overkill!) because they've got a 85 mm middle which is going to be great in pow-pow but still let me carve like Lindsay Vaughn. The pros at Sun and Ski Sports in Houston recommended that I get a pair for the wife too, she can't wait to show her favorite ski coach Andrés (he's from Chile!) during her private lesson!
 
13938634:DanCody said:
Erektion, thanks for your input. Does "mountaineering" refer to activities you would do in places beyond a downhill ski resort? If so, what else do you use snow blades for? Back country?

Thanks,

-Dan

Not a lot of backcountry these days thanks to my bad knees. But Vail is a pretty serious mountain so I always play it safe and pack my beacon, probe, and shovel. Let's just say that things can get pretty hairy in the back bowls.
 
LuketheWafflr, absolutely, that makes sense. You're name will be in the acknowledgements. Thanks.

-Dan

13938638:LukeTheWaffle said:
Should add stuff about styles and skis to suit styles (stiffer skis for comp jocks and softer skis for newwave type stuff)
 
Go to your local bum who probably has 3 pairs of never before mounted park skis.. maybe even a pair he/she built themselves that they would let you demo(be wary of them though don’t send it for your first 3-4 runs) they will sell to you for good deal.. say $130 and a case.. or a cartridge for their vape pen.

**This post was edited on Aug 26th 2018 at 8:03:21am
 
Hey Dan! Have you checked out revision skis? I was watching some super cool edits and this guy Sandy was riding them! I feel like he showed that they're more than adequate for freeskiing and park, I definitely feel like you should give them a try!
 
13938554:abar. said:
I like them because they are the preferred ski of Vail Resorts Mountain Safety, who I appreciate for pulling the pass of a young man who jumped off a cat track near my son. I wish they would move the metal pipes away from the snow ramps my son likes, but I haven't been able to get their attention, as they ski far too fast for me. I also trust the ski shop employee who rented them to me, as he possibly saved my life when he told me I would have blown out my knee if I left with the DINs still set to 6. He said he was a Marker Representative, I was very impressed! I have been told they are very light and responsive, which is good for my knees. I am also glad you can tell which direction is forwards, I don't want one of those backwards skis, they seem dangerous. I would tell you how they ski off piste, but I haven't done that since before dental school. I wish I could try some bumps, but I have to hold my son's leash so he doesn't run into one of those metal pipes or a snowboarder.

I'm telling you this backwards skiing had gone too far! One of those reckless skiers performing this dangerous maneuver almost hit my son as he was going off the side of those jumps with the big metal pieces. The craziest thing is he was heading straight for the metal tube! He must have a death wish! WIth people like that on the mountain someone is bound to get injured. Besides, these backwards skiers can't even see where they're going! If this isn't an urgent safety concern I don't know what is. Backwards skiers must be banned at once!
 
YuhYuh, haven't ridden Revision, but looking forward to the chance.

-Dan

13939024:yuhyuh said:
Hey Dan! Have you checked out revision skis? I was watching some super cool edits and this guy Sandy was riding them! I feel like he showed that they're more than adequate for freeskiing and park, I definitely feel like you should give them a try!
 
There's a new revolution sweeping the skiing industry and all the major producers are being hush hush about it. It's made especially for freestyle and in the terrain park. It's a lot shorter and wider and straps on side ways, the boots for these skis are being reinveted too as flexible, easy to walk boots with twist on caps to tighten them. I managed to get myself on one of these Burton Snowboards (the flying V) and I have got to say, it is really the new way to ski
 
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