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skrrtskrrt

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im a 9 size shoe and i can get a rossignol speed 80 boot in 27.5 or 28.5 should i go with a 28 since my feet are still growing?
 
Go to a shop and find a bootfitter. Pretty much all that matters is that the boot fits you really well. Flex can also be important but that's why you try them on.
 
14161661:animator said:
No clue where you got this but as a boot fitter I can 100% confidently say that nobody should buy boots based off of this

so as a boot fitter should i get a 27.5 or 28.5 as a 9.5 shoe
 
14161662:skrrtskrrt said:
so as a boot fitter should i get a 27.5 or 28.5 as a 9.5 shoe

There’s more than just “shoe size” that goes in to making a boot fit. Your instep, your arch, the width of your foot, pronation/supination. 9.5 in shoe size also doesn’t mean anything to me because I’m a 9.5 in Nike shoes but a 10 in Adidas, and an 8.5 in Timberlands. There is 0 standardization within the ski industry. Go to an actual, physical location when they reopen, and get fitted properly. Buying boots based off of shoe size or what people say on the internet is a complete a waste of time and money. OP, for what it’s worth, I’m a 9.5 and I wear a 26.5. Buying boots when you’re still growing sucks because you either buy them in the correct size, and they won’t fit after a year, or you can buy them big, but they won’t fit and you run the risk of Maybe never even growing in to them.

Cliff Notes for anyone else wondering if they should get a 27.5 or 28.5:

”Go to a bootfitter” is not a joke. We as members say that because a lot of us have learned the hard way. Bootfitters are trained and know what they’re talking about (no matter how arrogant we may seem).
 
shoe size does not translate for shit imho

I use everything from a 43 to 45, depending on how large/small the shoemaker makes the size.

I do usually end up with a 28.5 size shell even with that size, as you want boots tight

Also thinking you can find a boot on the interweb with help and trying in store, 0 chance.
 
that sucks cause I don’t have a boot fitter near me and I am a sweet deal on Rossignol speed 80s that I could get for more than half off I don’t have the money to go to a boot fitter and get boots fitted for me
 
14161661:animator said:
No clue where you got this but as a boot fitter I can 100% confidently say that nobody should buy boots based off of this

This is from Rossignol's website. I agree that you definitely shouldn't buy boots based on this, but I think this might give a bit of guide of what mondo size equals what us size.
 
14161667:tomPietrowski said:

Because it implies that the mondo correlates directly time how long the foot is. 26,5 is for feet 265mm long, 28,5 for 285mm, etc. I wear a 26,5 and my foot is 255mm long (just measured it lol). Would you not agree that A) there’s more to a boot fitting than just the length of the foot and B), the numbers don’t even seem to add up?
 
14161689:animator said:
Because it implies that the mondo correlates directly time how long the foot is. 26,5 is for feet 265mm long, 28,5 for 285mm, etc. I wear a 26,5 and my foot is 255mm long (just measured it lol). Would you not agree that A) there’s more to a boot fitting than just the length of the foot and B), the numbers don’t even seem to add up?

260mm*
 
14161689:animator said:
Because it implies that the mondo correlates directly time how long the foot is. 26,5 is for feet 265mm long, 28,5 for 285mm, etc. I wear a 26,5 and my foot is 255mm long (just measured it lol). Would you not agree that A) there’s more to a boot fitting than just the length of the foot and B), the numbers don’t even seem to add up?

Sure there is more to fitting then just length but mondo does directly relate to foot length. If your foot measures 255 then you possibly could be in a 25 I’m very similar. My left foot is 258 but I too wear a 26 as I prioritize comfort more then full on performance (and also take up the space with foam injection liners and a stiff footbed to secure my feet). Point is that guide was actually pretty good and better then what some brands put out (mine included haha)

**This post was edited on Aug 5th 2020 at 11:53:38pm
 
Before I started working at Atomic, I had no idea this was an actual formula. BUT, while there is a formula for size conversion, it doesn't mean that every brand is able to realize it in the same exact way. We all know that different shoes fit differently, even from within the same brand, and ski boots are no exception. This is why knowing your actual foot size (not your shoe size) is a good starting point, but remember that it's just a starting point. There are about 36 other things you need to be aware of in order to end up in the right ski boot, which is why boot-fitter.

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everyone seems to say go to a bootfitter but i’ve never done that before with my other boots. also can’t a bootfitter heat up your boot if its too uncomfortable?
 
14161802:skrrtskrrt said:
everyone seems to say go to a bootfitter but i’ve never done that before with my other boots. also can’t a bootfitter heat up your boot if its too uncomfortable?

they can only make your boots bigger not smaller and from your OP it looks like you are trying to buy yourself boots that are too big. learn to do a shell fit and check some out (a good bootfitter will show you how to do this) if you start with the shell that is closest to the right fit and not too big then it is better odds you can dial it in
 
14161748:tomPietrowski said:
Sure there is more to fitting then just length but mondo does directly relate to foot length. If your foot measures 255 then you possibly could be in a 25 I’m very similar. My left foot is 258 but I too wear a 26 as I prioritize comfort more then full on performance (and also take up the space with foam injection liners and a stiff footbed to secure my feet). Point is that guide was actually pretty good and better then what some brands put out (mine included haha)

**This post was edited on Aug 5th 2020 at 11:53:38pm

Fait enough, I know you have a lot more experience than I do!
 
14161671:skrrtskrrt said:
that sucks cause I don’t have a boot fitter near me and I am a sweet deal on Rossignol speed 80s that I could get for more than half off I don’t have the money to go to a boot fitter and get boots fitted for me

Is that 80 flex? Unless you weigh 10 pounds you probably don't want that
 
ok so i just realized i might have been being dumbass this whole time, i have a pair of 26.5 boots i used last year. there a little small but could a boot fitter stretch them out to use another season?
 
14161966:skrrtskrrt said:
ok so i just realized i might have been being dumbass this whole time, i have a pair of 26.5 boots i used last year. there a little small but could a boot fitter stretch them out to use another season?

Yes. But a good bootfitter charges good prices, and custom work like shell stretching is time consuming and tedious work (especially depending on the material of the boot). My guess is you’d be in probably $100-$150 bucks or so for a stretch on a boot that’s not new. 26.5 is generally what I would say is appropriate for a 9.5 foot (again, think about the lack of standardization in our industry), but obviously your foot will grow more by next season.
 
14161972:animator said:
Yes. But a good bootfitter charges good prices, and custom work like shell stretching is time consuming and tedious work (especially depending on the material of the boot). My guess is you’d be in probably $100-$150 bucks or so for a stretch on a boot that’s not new. 26.5 is generally what I would say is appropriate for a 9.5 foot (again, think about the lack of standardization in our industry), but obviously your foot will grow more by next season.

It definitely won't be that expensive. Probably in the area of 40-50$ but it depends on what exactly he will need. Could be more, could be less.

And NEVER stretch a boot without getting a good footbed first. If you don't properly support the foot and hold it in place, the foot will slide into the stretched area and you'll still have problems.

Here is your order of operations:

1. See a competent boot-fitter, not just a place that sells ski boots. Be prepared to drive a couple of hours if need be, it really is that important. If that is simply not an option for you, wait until you go skiing and visit a shop at/near the ski area you are at. Call ahead and make an appointment. This will ensure you get a dedicated fitter who will focus on you and only you, rather than some kid running around trying to help 4 people at once. Lastly, buying boots online is a huge mistake, unless you already know exactly what you want, which you don't. In order to do this right, someone needs to see your foot inside the boot and you can't do that online.

2. Always get a good footbed. By properly supporting your foot you will do a number of good things: it prevents your foot from moving around and sliding forward in the boot (thus preventing toe bang and shin bang), it makes you more balanced, and it makes you a more efficient skier. It's like this: right now you are driving a nice car, but it has non-responsive steering. Adding a footbed creates the proper interface between your foot and the boot so your car drives exactly how you want it to.

3. Once you support the foot, then you can get your liner and/or shell modified as needed. There is a charge for this, but it shouldn't be astronomical.
 
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