Eightsails
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Park/Pow/Cliffs/Rails steep lines and swervy times, what do you think is the top of the line do everything better ski?
Inb4 Jeffrey 108.
Inb4 Jeffrey 108.
What is the ultimate PNW 105-110mm do-it-all ski?
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combatgoon17
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Non_State_Actor
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Is this really even a question in the year of our Lord 2021?
whitenab
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Obviously skiing preference is king here and should inform that decision. There are a million ways to ski park/pow/cliffs/rails/steeps/swerve. Also, I think basically everyone's 105-110mm ski is good right now so buy something that fits your ski style and budget.
For me it's probably Jeffrey or the Bacon depending on your preference of stiffness/stability/turn style. I've been on both but am currently on Bacons. I could ski them everyday no matter the condition and still be happy. I definitely think they are better at crud skiing than people give them credit for but they are definitely not blackops style chargers and the jeffrey has the edge in straightline skiing. Plus, everyone spends most of their time between features so you might as well feel good making turns on your way to whatever you're trying to hit.
For me it's probably Jeffrey or the Bacon depending on your preference of stiffness/stability/turn style. I've been on both but am currently on Bacons. I could ski them everyday no matter the condition and still be happy. I definitely think they are better at crud skiing than people give them credit for but they are definitely not blackops style chargers and the jeffrey has the edge in straightline skiing. Plus, everyone spends most of their time between features so you might as well feel good making turns on your way to whatever you're trying to hit.
Eightsails
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14322663:whitenab said:
Yeah, I'm personally a 2019/20 ARV 106 fan myself. Curious what other people feel are their favorites for their own style!
BradFiAusNzCoCa
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[tag=249646]@Greg_K[/tag] and [tag=271284]@anders_a[/tag] swear by the CT series being damp and chargey this previous season.
As for me, my go to west coast snowpack ski is a ski called the diplomat by Slant Skis out of Tahoe. 107 underfoot, pure bamboo core with carbon fiber. It’s heavy though. Def feel a difference throwing that ski around vs some others but it’s so stable
As for me, my go to west coast snowpack ski is a ski called the diplomat by Slant Skis out of Tahoe. 107 underfoot, pure bamboo core with carbon fiber. It’s heavy though. Def feel a difference throwing that ski around vs some others but it’s so stable
AlaskaDogfart
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Really like the Moment Meridians for this kind of things but they stopped making them
ReturnToMonkey
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Jeffrey 108
Greg_K
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Agree the 2021 CT 3.0 may not be as playful but the 2021 Prodigy 3.0 would definitely be an option.
More tapered than the CT line and softer tips/tails. Decent weight and longer turning radius so it would still be stable at speed and good in variable snow. Hasn’t changed for 2022 like the CT did but I bet the 2021 Fisher plant builds would still be better built and now available at deals. Ordered a pair of 2021 190cm Prodigy 3.0 that I got for $499 CAN/$400 US which is a great deal!
Depending on your size, the 182cm MFree 108 is a super fun ski too and unchanged for 2022. 192cm version becomes more serious and more of a playful charger.
More tapered than the CT line and softer tips/tails. Decent weight and longer turning radius so it would still be stable at speed and good in variable snow. Hasn’t changed for 2022 like the CT did but I bet the 2021 Fisher plant builds would still be better built and now available at deals. Ordered a pair of 2021 190cm Prodigy 3.0 that I got for $499 CAN/$400 US which is a great deal!
Depending on your size, the 182cm MFree 108 is a super fun ski too and unchanged for 2022. 192cm version becomes more serious and more of a playful charger.
doubleblackjack
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stinky_cheese
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Should check out the 4frnt devastador. I’ve been ripping it around the pnw for the past few seasons and it rips it all.
BigPurpleSkiSuit
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Probably the Jeffrey 108
It depends, honestly, could be the Vishnu wides with a little extra stiffness on them, I've heard they do great in pow, you can definitely still take them through the park. Another option might be wider than a 110, but the Reckoner 112 I have heard great things about and plenty of people take them through the park.
It depends, honestly, could be the Vishnu wides with a little extra stiffness on them, I've heard they do great in pow, you can definitely still take them through the park. Another option might be wider than a 110, but the Reckoner 112 I have heard great things about and plenty of people take them through the park.
Oldmanripper
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I just bought ufo 105’s. Can’t wait to use them.
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Alextheskibum
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108 jeffreys would slay
whitenab
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This isn't really an answer to the original question but because of it I ended up doing some research on the midfat ski category. Looked at all the companies I could think of and their ~105-110 twin tip, all mountain, freestyle skis. I was pretty lazy and didn't really collect enough info for any analysis so this is mostly just info.
If a company didn't have a 105-110 I grabbed their surrounding skis which was in both cases a 102 and 112. Also I don't actually know how much Vishnu Wides cost.
- 106 is really popular right now. I think the upper tier width used to be 120 but is coming down right now so 106 works well with a ~116 to give a nice 96,106,116 spread.
- Lengths are wack because who knows how each companies determines them but I like when a company offers a wide range of lengths. It'd be interesting to see if the companies with lots of lengths usually have a separate women's line.
-MSRP had a fair amount of variance. Coming in I figured it was on industry average of ~700, excluding outliers. I was surprised to see Faction have an 800$ 112mm underfoot ski.
- Also, I realized MSRP is tough because it's not hard to wait for sales and then the prices can really fluctuate and certain brands consistently have good sale prices and some never go on sale. Did not gather that info.
Conclusion:
You have ~30 options if you ski about 180cm with a 106 waist lol.
If a company didn't have a 105-110 I grabbed their surrounding skis which was in both cases a 102 and 112. Also I don't actually know how much Vishnu Wides cost.
- 106 is really popular right now. I think the upper tier width used to be 120 but is coming down right now so 106 works well with a ~116 to give a nice 96,106,116 spread.
- Lengths are wack because who knows how each companies determines them but I like when a company offers a wide range of lengths. It'd be interesting to see if the companies with lots of lengths usually have a separate women's line.
-MSRP had a fair amount of variance. Coming in I figured it was on industry average of ~700, excluding outliers. I was surprised to see Faction have an 800$ 112mm underfoot ski.
- Also, I realized MSRP is tough because it's not hard to wait for sales and then the prices can really fluctuate and certain brands consistently have good sale prices and some never go on sale. Did not gather that info.
Conclusion:
You have ~30 options if you ski about 180cm with a 106 waist lol.