What is more worth the money for a rail rat?

summer setup dude. Way cheaper and long term use. Keeping you from being bored and also learning mad tricks. Summer camps seem sick af but def build a setup first imo
 
topic:Viehweg said:
Right now I´m considering if I should go to summer camp or build a summer setup?

Hey man if daddy is rich enough, go to summer camp, I'm sure it'd be absolutely amazing. Wish I'd had that sort of opportunity.
 
Definitely backyard setup. Save yourself a few thousand and learn wizard tricks. Definitely good bang for your buck since it’s permanent.
 
A week at camp won’t do much but a summer on a setup will change your rail skiing forever if you’re out on your setup for an hour a day everyday, trying to learn new stuff or get better at stuff you already know.
 
Be a trailblazer and build a summer setup at the bottom of Windells. This way you save a lot of money but ur also at summer camp w the boys and when the pros come down the lift ask them for tips.
 
You can build a summer setup for very cheap. Be resourceful and find scrap wood. Go to construction sites and dig through their bins for wood and pvc. Snow fence... maybe ask your ski hill if they have old rolls they don't need? Go to a carpet supplier that sells capret in bulk and ask for any turf cut offs.

Now, you have a summer setup and can still go to summer camp.
 
Since this is your first post I’m assuming we’re never gonna hear from you again

... sounds like you need to be taught how to ski so get a lesson on a bunny hill
 
14098202:skiguy04 said:
Since this is your first post I’m assuming we’re never gonna hear from you again

... sounds like you need to be taught how to ski so get a lesson on a bunny hill

I´m starting to work on swaps.
 
topic:Viehweg said:
Right now I´m considering if I should go to summer camp or build a summer setup?

https://www.newschoolers.com/forum/1453/Build-A-Jib-101

Check this out. Granted there a a few janky setups, there is some good trial and error info of people building setups. Height, angles, materials, etc.

Spend some time and browse around in there for some motivation. When you build it, tell mom it won't look that ugly in the backyard(even if it will), it's cheaper than summer camp, and at least you're not hooked on the drugs.
 
In my experience doing 3 years of summer camp (MHSSC) growing up, I learned more on my setup, honestly. It depends what kind of skier you are, but for me the camp was more of just a fun social experience. I did learn some new tricks, like 360s, I got more comfortable on rails and I was able to hit different features that I usually wouldn't. But I usually wasn't motivated to throw down on the scratchy/refrozen snow, and any trick I wanted to work on meant hiking a feature and sweating my ass off in the 80-90 degree heat. I would never regret the fun memories, the friends I met, and the little bits that i did learn, but if you're more concerned about rails then a setup is the way to go. Helps a lot if you have some friends who are down to session it with you. I was living in texas so I just went out there alone with some earbuds in. Without even going on snow, I was able to learn front swaps, back swaps, front/blind 270s, and kfed. Only bummer is transitioning those to metal because it can be freaky.

For the amount that you would pay for a week of summer camp, you could build a kickass summer setup. If you want to go cheap, you can use scrap wood/pvc and turf. But if not, you could get yourself some mSnow, some nice pipes, and get a variety of pretty sweet features.

Here's my setup that i had from 7th grade-senior year of HS. I went out of state for college, so we had to let it go out with a bang before tearing it down. Somehow we managed to get this behemoth onto the stage for a senior talent show. judges were unimpressed, i lost lol.

anyways sorry for the long story, i just thought you guys might get a kick out of it.

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14099989:fries said:
In my experience doing 3 years of summer camp (MHSSC) growing up, I learned more on my setup, honestly. It depends what kind of skier you are, but for me the camp was more of just a fun social experience. I did learn some new tricks, like 360s, I got more comfortable on rails and I was able to hit different features that I usually wouldn't. But I usually wasn't motivated to throw down on the scratchy/refrozen snow, and any trick I wanted to work on meant hiking a feature and sweating my ass off in the 80-90 degree heat. I would never regret the fun memories, the friends I met, and the little bits that i did learn, but if you're more concerned about rails then a setup is the way to go. Helps a lot if you have some friends who are down to session it with you. I was living in texas so I just went out there alone with some earbuds in. Without even going on snow, I was able to learn front swaps, back swaps, front/blind 270s, and kfed. Only bummer is transitioning those to metal because it can be freaky.

For the amount that you would pay for a week of summer camp, you could build a kickass summer setup. If you want to go cheap, you can use scrap wood/pvc and turf. But if not, you could get yourself some mSnow, some nice pipes, and get a variety of pretty sweet features.

Here's my setup that i had from 7th grade-senior year of HS. I went out of state for college, so we had to let it go out with a bang before tearing it down. Somehow we managed to get this behemoth onto the stage for a senior talent show. judges were unimpressed, i lost lol.

anyways sorry for the long story, i just thought you guys might get a kick out of it.

View attachment 952038

A+ story. I was wondering if you built a fucking summer setup with disco lights in your garage. Glad I read and was provided with answers. I can now die in peace.
 
14099997:theabortionator said:
A+ story. I was wondering if you built a fucking summer setup with disco lights in your garage. Glad I read and was provided with answers. I can now die in peace.

This has me cracking up. Now I realize that at first glance the image makes it look that way... summer setup with disco lights would be hilarious and extra af.
 
Going to camp and having a coach gives you a catered approach at ur skiing. Get a job, bust ur butt, do both
 
14099989:fries said:
In my experience doing 3 years of summer camp (MHSSC) growing up, I learned more on my setup, honestly. It depends what kind of skier you are, but for me the camp was more of just a fun social experience. I did learn some new tricks, like 360s, I got more comfortable on rails and I was able to hit different features that I usually wouldn't. But I usually wasn't motivated to throw down on the scratchy/refrozen snow, and any trick I wanted to work on meant hiking a feature and sweating my ass off in the 80-90 degree heat. I would never regret the fun memories, the friends I met, and the little bits that i did learn, but if you're more concerned about rails then a setup is the way to go. Helps a lot if you have some friends who are down to session it with you. I was living in texas so I just went out there alone with some earbuds in. Without even going on snow, I was able to learn front swaps, back swaps, front/blind 270s, and kfed. Only bummer is transitioning those to metal because it can be freaky.

For the amount that you would pay for a week of summer camp, you could build a kickass summer setup. If you want to go cheap, you can use scrap wood/pvc and turf. But if not, you could get yourself some mSnow, some nice pipes, and get a variety of pretty sweet features.

Here's my setup that i had from 7th grade-senior year of HS. I went out of state for college, so we had to let it go out with a bang before tearing it down. Somehow we managed to get this behemoth onto the stage for a senior talent show. judges were unimpressed, i lost lol.

anyways sorry for the long story, i just thought you guys might get a kick out of it.

View attachment 952038

Haha that is legendary
 
14098187:BLandz said:
Be a trailblazer and build a summer setup at the bottom of Windells. This way you save a lot of money but ur also at summer camp w the boys and when the pros come down the lift ask them for tips.

Or just get a hotel room nearby and hike windells park. It’s probably on public land and you have as much right to be there as they do.
 
14100550:PeppermillReno said:
Or just get a hotel room nearby and hike windells park. It’s probably on public land and you have as much right to be there as they do.

questionable statement.
 
14100550:PeppermillReno said:
Or just get a hotel room nearby and hike windells park. It’s probably on public land and you have as much right to be there as they do.

Windells doesn’t even have their own park anymore. Timberline owns it all now. Wish I was joking but they just changed it for next summer.
 
If you spend the same amount of money in a summer setup as you would at Windells it would be the nicest set up ever made.
 
14101961:Viehweg said:
Is the only place to find fat tubes easily is at construction sites?

Or you can pay for them at somewhere like home depot. the cost will start adding up quick though.
 
14101961:Viehweg said:
Is the only place to find fat tubes easily is at construction sites?

Yeah a 12” green pvc sewer pipe is going to be a few hundred bucks for one pipe. Kind of makes me cringe when people jack those pipes off construction sites that pipe is pricey as fuck and someone had to buy it. It’s not like builders purposely buy thousands of dollars worth of extra for the hell of it.
 
summer camp helped me send a lot more, you get way hyped and make tons of friends, one of the greatest memories i have ever had skiing. only shit thing is that it's expensive as fuuuuck
 
14102057:Casey said:
Yeah a 12” green pvc sewer pipe is going to be a few hundred bucks for one pipe. Kind of makes me cringe when people jack those pipes off construction sites that pipe is pricey as fuck and someone had to buy it. It’s not like builders purposely buy thousands of dollars worth of extra for the hell of it.

Construction sites waste thousands of dollars. They won't care if you take some trash from the bin. Maybe do it after hours or ask a worker though because those bins can be dangerous
 
I stole a bunch pvc pipes from a construction site (130 feet worth) and skied them all summer. It was so fun, helped my rail game a lot and only costed about 80$ with the drop in included.
 
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