What is a mormon?

i don't see why everyone is bashing on eachother. i'm LDS. i live in salt lake city. so there's a strong LDS population around here. i don't care that i don't smoke/drink, and i don't really feel like i'm missing out on anything. i also know a lot of non-mormons who don't smoke/drink, so it's not just us who believe in this. everyone's thinkin that we are a cult who are beaten if we don't obey rules. and that we need to exclude non-mormons. not true. i have friends who a jewish, protestant, you name it. i have friends that are black, white, grey, orange,,whatever. i have friends who smoke, drink, party, get down with the girls. but it's their choice. i respect them for who they are and for the friends that they are to me. i'll let everyone else live their own life, just as i'll live mine. as for me,, i know my church is true. if you have a problem with that, keep it to yourself. cause nothin gonna change my mind. i've had too many experiences that i wouldn't trade. so stop thinkin mormons are crazy satan worshipping nuts. cause were just normal people. keepin it real.

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you know your church is true. Wow that is one of the most egotistical staements I've ever heard. Although I've heard about every religious person say that. Oh yeah and wasn't you religion made up by a 'magic salamander?' That may have been a hoax, but its still funny.

I don't know, personally I find it a little curious to have a church require you to give them 10% of your salary, and strongly enforce marriage within the cult (yes it is a cult, possibly even more so than other churches), having litters of children (to propogate the religion), and geez I'm drawing a blank on some of the other creepy practices.

But hey, to each there own. I KNOW that atheism is correct. Even more beyond a doubt than you my friend. :)

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^^you are so confused it's sad. i genuinely feel bad that you are so misinformed.

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Well the thing about the Book of Mormon linking Jesus and Lucifer (the Devil) as brothers is true, and is taught in today's church. My question is, how can you believe those in the 12 and the president of the church are chosen by god to lead the church, on top of that you're saying they are led by divine vision... How can you say a man is working at the will of god? The same was said of Kings and Queens, we look back now and laugh, they were the most corrupt people on the planet. The origins of the Mormon relgion is one of my biggest problems with the religion. You believe Joseph Smith was blessed by various revelations that led him to the Golden Tablets, after that he was given the ability to read these plates. The angel that was responsible for delivering these revelations was described as an angel of light, but in other chapters of the Book of Mormon these angels of light are workers of the devil. The translation of the Golden Plates is the biggest BS story I've ever heard, the people involved had to be the dumbest most gullible people on the planet, but when you want to belive something bad enough you dumb yourself down to taste. Joseph Smith was a criminal, and on his journey to the promised land he was killed for being a horse theif, some profit... But people aren't perfect... Brigham Young took over the church's presidency and did a great job building the church to what it is today. He reveared by most of the church for being the greatest president to date, but he was also a great polygamist... The guy had 27 wives! Link to source info. Yet today the church shuns those who practices something that was more than acceptable to the church's greatest saint? I want to link a page that shows numerous discrencies of the teachings of the Mormon church and what Mormons say they believe. Go to CARM.org if you want some answers. If mormons like to refer to themselves as chistians why do so many of their teachings go against what the rest of christianity? I lived in a city that Mormonism was the code as to who was who in the community. If you weren't a mormon you were blacklisted on many levels. From being put at a disadvantage in public schools by the amount of teaching you would one on one instruction you would recieve if you were struggling, to team sports; it didn't matter what your talent level was you'd more than likely be benched if there was a mormon playing your same position... To getting a job in that town, believe me it wasn't easy. The same is still going on with my siblings, and the same feelings are felt by many people who also weren't mormon that grew up in that city along with me. If a religion teaches equality, and the followers go to so many lengths to achieve godliness how can these conditions exist? I don't believe Mormonism is the teachings of god, and I don't believe their beliefs are in the least bit true. The mormon will say they feel sorry for me, and all I can say to that is, I feel sorry for them...

'...Smoking's bad, smoking killed my dad. Yeah, he was driving down the highway one day and as he was lighting his cigarette, it blew out the window. So he jumps out the door to save it, and ran himself over. Uh, you mind if I smoke?' -Olie Ollaussen, Ski Bum extraordinaire
 
The link to Carm.org is here...

'...Smoking's bad, smoking killed my dad. Yeah, he was driving down the highway one day and as he was lighting his cigarette, it blew out the window. So he jumps out the door to save it, and ran himself over. Uh, you mind if I smoke?' -Olie Ollaussen, Ski Bum extraordinaire
 
For all of you who aren't Mormon...there's a book called 'The Mormon Murders'. The church bought the copyright because it revieled too many of their negative secrets, therefore, it can only be purchased on Ebay or checked out via the library. This gives you an insight as to how Mormonism came to this country. It's interesting because it was written by former members of the church. I suggest if you want to research or learn all sides of their faith, you check it out. I'm not writing this to bash mormons, but it is certainly an eye opener and who's to say that either that book or the actual book of Mormon is correct?

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Trust me, I hate lots of things about My church...

Like no drinking and no sex, fuck that,

But, I swear by the church's Strenght as a Family unit...

i don't like the book of mormon compared to the bible,

or D&C, i will check out that book mentioned above...

i'm thinking about becoming a Jedi...

ho ho ho...

live by the N.E.R.D
 
why would you do that? theres no point to it.

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if you really want to know what a mormon is, just go ask an actual person who you call 'mormon' about their religon.

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freiz-

read the long description i wrote on the previous page. that should sum up most of it, especially in regard to us being christian. as for being blacklisted in an idaho community of mormons, i dont doubt it for a second. people arent perfect, as you said, and in any society where one type of beleif, behavior, or anything is prevailant, those who are different are going to be ostrisized. its sucks, but thats human nature.

Mercy's eyes are blue

When she places them in front of you

Nothing holds a roman candle to

The solemn warmth you feel inside

 
I went through most of this and read a lot of it. A lot of the details that most of you covered were interesting. I've been interested in going to U of U next year so naturaly i wanted to know a little more about mormons before moving thre.

These are my opinions about the religion and please feel free to correct me.

My first initial reaction to the Mormon religion is how stuck up and close minded some of you are. yes granted some of you arnt but i got the impression that you think you are 100% right and everyone elnse is wrong. I have nothing agianst any of the mormon beleifs and infact i can understand why you have some of the rules that you have. But if someone chooses to smoke or drink or have sex, who gives a fuck (yes i can say fuck) sorry i didnt mean to rub that in. im just trying to say if you choose (the key word here is choice). if you choose to be mormon by all means be it, but why rant and rave about other peoples actions, are they affecting you on a personal level? i sure hope not. just because someone smokes or for that matter drinks coffee, doesnt make them a bad person. they may develope cancer, but agian thats there desicion. I dont smoke (well besides pot but that doesnt have the harmfull chemicals and im not gonna get into a contriversy about that), but i will have a drink from time to time, this doesnt affect me on a social or medical level, i will live just as long if not longer (infact it has been scientifically proven that a glass of red wine every day dramaitcally reduces health risks, and if you dont beleave me look it up yourself) so how could alcohol really be that bad. having a beer with my buddies allows me to be more social and develope a better relationship with people (can you tell im from milwaukee and love our beer).

second point comes from the whole dating/mariage/sex topic. as far as my knowledge goes catholics have the same rules except for the fact that we really dont follow them, for obvious reasons (what can i say i like my woman, and if you would put your religion aside and go out and have the same experience with a girl you would understand too). Does this cause me to go have sex all the time or get someone pregant or get an STD, NO! you just have to be resonsible and practice safe sex.

Basically i become concerned because if i choose to go to utah next year for school, i basically dont want the mormons from stopping me from having a good time, i know i might sound conseeded here but do mormons affect college life in utah? i just wanta go ski and have a good time. o yeah and from what i can tell these mormon chicks are really hot and do you think now that they are in college that they are ready to hang loose and party too?

i've kinda thought that the religion seems to have been created to control people(not just mormons but other religions too)i say if someone wants to do something let them (they best way we can stop someone from doing something is by education them and letting them choose for themself not having a priest or whatever you call your preacher dictator tell you what to do) i say let every person make their own choices and deside for themselves. and if they choose wrong and fuck up then i guess thats their problem they learned their lesson, i guess thats where the idea of natural selection comes in too, get red of the dumb ones. but i guess what im trying to say is instead of having a church tell you you can't do something, have them tell you about why not just because some book says it.

im not trying to say anything bad about the mormon religion im just saying times have changed and it doesnt make me a bad person if i am educated and make educated desisions.

SO my altimate question is are you all that weak minded that you need someone telling you you can't. and if you agree with them that so be it, im happy for you, truley i am, just dont bring the rest of us down with you.

 
as a religious demographic is concerned, 'mormonism' is the one with, if not the highest, one of the highest percentages of college graduates among its membership. education is strongly encouraged by church leadership. most, if not all of the highest leaders of the church are holders of doctorate degrees. i just listened to a talk on sunday by Jeffery Holland, one of the church leadership, who has a PHD in philosophy from yale. I highly doubt he is a weak minded guy.

no one forces you to do anything that you dont want to do. if you want to follow the guidelines of the church, well, theyre there for your benefit as a member of the chruch. if not, well, thats your business.

passing off religious people as 'weak minded' makes me wonder who you are to pass that judgement. are you so grand and intelligent that you know all? i doubt it. i know i dont. if youre not into church, thats fine. if so, great. theres intelligent folks of both kinds.

im sure you could find some party girls out in SLC if you look for em, although any that are upstanding mormons probably arent going to be so eager.

i think, instead of judging one spacific doctrine, or one certain idea that might come off as strange, look at what those doctrines and ideas produce. they produce the longest living, most educated religion in the world, not to mention the fastest growing in the western hemisphere.

Mercy's eyes are blue

When she places them in front of you

Nothing holds a roman candle to

The solemn warmth you feel inside

 
Of course there are going to be pro mormon skiers and snowboarders. Why would that be a suprise, with so many killer hills in utah, and such a large lds population, you can put two and two together. People that sterotype mormons, and claim them to be forced racists, devil worshipers, etc, are automatically admiting that they are a higher class then those ' terrible mormons' . People make this assumption based on hersay. Everytime you state, or agree with one of those vauge insults, you are just proving to be ignorant. You are saying that you are better because at least you aren't in a religion that people claim is a racist womanizing cult. I am not defending the mormon religion whatsoever, i have plenty of justified complaints. But mine are better researched, and i really don't care what the church does, they do their thing, i do my thing. But their are a couple light hearted things i thought i might bring up, considering the church doesn't really approve the consumption of mass quanities of stimulates, such as caffine. It's humorous that the members of the church are the majority share holders in good old caffine pumping coca cola. Also anyone one in SLC, or go to BYU, explain the concept behind NCMO. (Non committal Make Out)

P.S. thier are some hot mormon skier chicks in utah. too bad i'm not moromon

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the whole mormon thing is a joke. I can understand why it was cool back in the day. People wanted something to believe in. but now days people still believe that crap? lmfao.
 
yea, well for me the bump meant a lot. i just moved to mormon country and am a bit freaked out by these people. They piss me off. They try to act better then everyone.
 
Sounds like your being a little close minded like your accusing mormons of being. How about you give them a chance instead of just judging them as a whole. In every type or organization there are douches, but thats just people. Trust me not EVERY single mormon thinks their better than everyone. Only the stuck up egotistical pricks, but like I said you'll find them everywhere.
 
yes but the fact that you can worship what that religion is based off of and how it was founded is

"douchey"
 
Ha, I remember my parents telling me when they lived in utah a long, long time ago how they were basically blacklisted like blacks were in the 50's.

They wouldnt get served in restaurants, get good help, etc.

My dad was skiing with a mormon and the guy out of no where said "You know you dont belong here right?"

As a christian myself, its incredibly difficult to maintain a good image when you have Mormons and Catholics on "our side" always doing something here and something there, that people then put onto the whole christian population.
 
being an active mormon i figured i would address a few things:

Sooo many people believe mormons have all of these crazy rules and practices, and while they do have many, several of them which have been mentioned are completely wrong.

yes the church discourages drugs, alcohol, and premarital sex, but its for your own well being. They want you to have a healthy body and respect for yourself. The caffeine thing is not true. Some hardcore crazies out there do believe it, but 90% of the active mormons i know drink caffeine like its water.

There are some crazy mormons who i know some of you are talking about. The extremely hardcore, preach to everyone type. I can't stand these people because they put off such a negative feeling, that feeling like they are better than everyone else, when really, they arent. I apologize if one of the only mormons you met was that type.

finally I dont understand while there is always so much hate agains the mormons. They are hard working, honest people, who believe in staying away from things that can be damaging to them/their body. They DO believe in Christ and God, and they believe strongly that the family in central. Does that really sound like a satanic/demonic religion?

For the Book of Mormon/Joseph Smith debate, there was an excellent post a few pages back that explains it all.

 
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