What do we need?!
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Icant_kfed
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I can tell you what we don’t need more of is politics
Rparr
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14454429:BallZach420 said:
do you know why banshee bungee doesn't exist anymore?
Some absolute knobhead tried to anchor the banshee bungee into sand to do something on a beach. Unsurprisingly, when they pulled the bungee back, the anchor came free (because it was buried in fucking lose sand) and turned into a projectile which utterly destroyed the ankle of the kid pulling the bungee back. Kid's parents sued banshee bungee, and banshee bungie no longer exists
This is why we can't have nice things
rymeisterbaby
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topic:.butterz. said:
Honestly I think you need to fuck jp this thread is completely useless
rojo.grande
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Wider inclusivity and more accessibility. Bringing more demographics in this sport other than well off white people is the move. The fridge is so sick for that reason. These things bring more art, style, and originality too
bertBertson
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More open-access municipal snowparks like the Dillon Ojo park in Montreal
Rparr
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14454452:BallZach420 said:
had no idea he covered that in his podcasts
There have been a few guys over the years here who made their own DIY bungees. This is the only one I could find off the top of my head:
https://www.newschoolers.com/forum/thread/773918/DIY--How-I-made-a-20ft-Urban-Bungee-for-under--75
SamuelForsgren
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More railjams and comps that isnt fis and also they need to make more comfertable ski boots
rojo.grande
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14454486:elm. said:
14454506:weastcoat said:
These two things.
places like ruby hill are insane. I’d guarantee too that a good amount of the people who ride it would be inclined to grab a rake and help shape when things are needed. This would be pivotal for kids/ people looking to get into park skiing or jumping straight into skiing through park.
also rope tows should be a thing at every mountain with a low park budget. They make things more manageable, you can stack features on one small hill, keep it relatively low maintenance, and it would bring a good amount of revenue to the hill. This could also apply to accessibility if hills charged a “rope tow only” tivket or something along those lines, cheap enough that kids wanting to learn park can do so
bertBertson
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14454530:asparagus said:
Man, did you hear why that isn't a thing anymore? City employees thought the rails were 'trash' and removed them from campus. The club has been trying to negotiate with the city for months to get them back but to no avail ??? fills me with rage
iskeaah
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More summer accessibility, west coast chooses whis or hood and you have to pay a pretty penny. I wish my local drysloped the bunny chair and rope towed a rail setup, then they can still market to the average joe while keeping the skiing going. If they run lifts for bikers ( which they are planning to do) they might as well keep a lil section open even for hiking.
Also, with a freeride background whistler has one of the strongest junior tour programs as well as whitewater. They have a seamless program after the whistler kids. You graduate from the program you either choose freeride, slope, or racing. Other hills have regular lessons that don't feed into anything, I think that mountains should start marketing to parents whose kids enjoy the sport. I mean seriously if you can get them into a program parents are dropping like 3k easy on a team coaching yada yada.
TLDR: Support local athletes that qualify for national events. Competing is pay to win?
Lastly, there's no world-stage coaching, especially for freeride. Personal experience/take, I love the sport of skiing and qualified for worlds in kappl. Got on sticks early and worked at the pass instructed and slaved in the summer to afford it. Got a team scholarship and talked to reps for gear. During JFWC the FTW pays for accommodations, all skiing, and meals for you and a plus one. *Not coaching or a plane ticket over. Once in a lifetime opportunity but unable to steal my local coach/team manager away during prime time is impossible and any other coach available is either affiliated with other teams or is $500 a coaching day and ~$200 off days (ball park). Side note too if you've never skied under a coach it's a relationship they have to know your ability. For example, the coach says to point it off of that *kid blows up* vs knowing one kid goes huge and takes landings and another is a techy monster you tailor the line choice to exemplify their own skiing. Back to the point, everyone who has power in the ski industry is super flaky and no one knows how to commit. I said fuck it and invited my teammate and enjoyed every second of the trip. Prolly could have done better if I spent an extra 10k for a professional coach but 11th in the world isn't too bad. Going back to the question: what do we need? Take a cut of the enormous team fee and put it into a fund for the rare opportunities for norams or some travel events because it sucks to do it on your own. Market the team by supporting the kids who push your program. It's super common to see go fund me's for these types of events because families are left out to dry...
conclusion:
I was fortunate and so are a lot of competitive skiers maybe this isn't a problem, but it was for me. It's a money thing that I wouldn't want some other kid to miss out on or do into debt for. As freeride is still a new genre maybe more paths will naturally just open up. I'm not super familiar with racing and slope but I can't imagine it being any different.
Also, with a freeride background whistler has one of the strongest junior tour programs as well as whitewater. They have a seamless program after the whistler kids. You graduate from the program you either choose freeride, slope, or racing. Other hills have regular lessons that don't feed into anything, I think that mountains should start marketing to parents whose kids enjoy the sport. I mean seriously if you can get them into a program parents are dropping like 3k easy on a team coaching yada yada.
TLDR: Support local athletes that qualify for national events. Competing is pay to win?
Lastly, there's no world-stage coaching, especially for freeride. Personal experience/take, I love the sport of skiing and qualified for worlds in kappl. Got on sticks early and worked at the pass instructed and slaved in the summer to afford it. Got a team scholarship and talked to reps for gear. During JFWC the FTW pays for accommodations, all skiing, and meals for you and a plus one. *Not coaching or a plane ticket over. Once in a lifetime opportunity but unable to steal my local coach/team manager away during prime time is impossible and any other coach available is either affiliated with other teams or is $500 a coaching day and ~$200 off days (ball park). Side note too if you've never skied under a coach it's a relationship they have to know your ability. For example, the coach says to point it off of that *kid blows up* vs knowing one kid goes huge and takes landings and another is a techy monster you tailor the line choice to exemplify their own skiing. Back to the point, everyone who has power in the ski industry is super flaky and no one knows how to commit. I said fuck it and invited my teammate and enjoyed every second of the trip. Prolly could have done better if I spent an extra 10k for a professional coach but 11th in the world isn't too bad. Going back to the question: what do we need? Take a cut of the enormous team fee and put it into a fund for the rare opportunities for norams or some travel events because it sucks to do it on your own. Market the team by supporting the kids who push your program. It's super common to see go fund me's for these types of events because families are left out to dry...
conclusion:
I was fortunate and so are a lot of competitive skiers maybe this isn't a problem, but it was for me. It's a money thing that I wouldn't want some other kid to miss out on or do into debt for. As freeride is still a new genre maybe more paths will naturally just open up. I'm not super familiar with racing and slope but I can't imagine it being any different.
rojo.grande
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14454612:iskeaah said:
Only in reference to the first part, park skiing sadly isn’t big enough to drive a profit for a hill in the summer so they wouldn’t waste the resources or hold the liability for a summer hike park. And even less likely that a dry slope would happen unless it was in somewhere like PC with a massive group of potential customers. Even then sadly it’s a push. The only realistic way for this to happen is for park skiing to grow into a sport like skateboarding with much larger numbers. When there’s enough people involved for resorts to see monetary gain in the summer from skiing, it’ll happen. Unless the world melts first which seems more likely
sullivano*b
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those little rail set ups in cities
BLandz
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We need to find a way to make saran wrap bullet proof so that I can wrap it around my head and put a hat over it so that im wearing a helmet but u just can’t tell
Maybe we just need low profile helmets that look like hats but im leaving the saran wrap comment in case saran wrap dramatically improves but hats don’t.
Maybe we just need low profile helmets that look like hats but im leaving the saran wrap comment in case saran wrap dramatically improves but hats don’t.
disappointmett
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14454516:SamuelForsgren said:
This. Looking to attempt to organize a rail jam in my city this winter as a fundraiser. Anyone have any insight on how to get this kicked off?
a_pla5tic_bag
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snow
Angioedema
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more people to film
More learn to ski school/town programs. Cheaper ticket/rent/group lesson bundles. Seems like more places are getting rid of that than adding.
I get that skiing has always been spendy, but it's cool when people at least have a chance to check out the sport. Mtns pretty much shake people upside down for all their lunch money..
Cool to see some mtns do their beginner lifts for free. It helps get people into the sport and honestly the people that stick with it might biy tickets/passes there later.
More city parks would be sweet but it's tough with the snow. East coast and midwest could def add some. There's a few free rope tow/tbar places in NY but no parks.
Somebody was trying to get one going in Buffalo.
Skiing needs to not take itself too seriously but I feel like that's already shifting. Keep it weird and fun.
I get that skiing has always been spendy, but it's cool when people at least have a chance to check out the sport. Mtns pretty much shake people upside down for all their lunch money..
Cool to see some mtns do their beginner lifts for free. It helps get people into the sport and honestly the people that stick with it might biy tickets/passes there later.
More city parks would be sweet but it's tough with the snow. East coast and midwest could def add some. There's a few free rope tow/tbar places in NY but no parks.
Somebody was trying to get one going in Buffalo.
Skiing needs to not take itself too seriously but I feel like that's already shifting. Keep it weird and fun.
ReturnToMonkey
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A lot less heat
A freestyle content website
isaacwrong
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more grass root rail jams like what dan has been doing...appreciate what killington does with reds backyard too with being able to hike for free. Carinthia preseason last year was also a vibe but the hike was kinda ass on the gulch...also peace pipe 2023?
**This post was edited on Aug 13th 2022 at 8:22:12am
**This post was edited on Aug 13th 2022 at 8:22:12am
Sht_eatn_dog
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rymeisterbaby
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14454440:eheath said:
well if it isnt the most uselless person on ns
Schoess
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More homies, less hate. No one is cooler than anyone else at your local hill/mountain. The tricks you decide are cool in your head alone at your mom and dads house doesn't translate to what others should or shouldn't do/wear/say/etc. Great influential people in any sport or activity of any kind are almost always the most accepting of this notion because they understand that it's stupid. Times change, trends change, you will look back at what you're doing and saying now at some point and cringe. It pays dividends to be nice and accepting of others, especially over something so trivial as skiing.
Young_patty
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Boots on the ground: jams, events, comps, premiers, pop ups, ect. More people participating in the actual sport the better. We need more money to do this, a lot of professional athletes don’t even get paid jack shit if even at all. Skiing isn’t as Nearly lucrative as other sports as a career so I feel that getting overall participation within the scene up will help us navigate and grow the sport better.
also it’s super common for skate teams to tour and do demos at parks, why don’t we see more of that? Sure film/comp tours are a bitch but outside of tell a friend tour there is barely any outreach from established teams or companies aside from film tours and windells.
Wanna know why Real skateboards are so common in the Midwest? It’s cause they do a ton of outreach and demos there. Hell if you look at armadas old Midwest tour you’ll see the same thing, armada skis used to be the Midwest staple because Phil and Henrik were constantly touring the Midwest and doing events there. It’s still a staple brand in the Midwest because of that. I think more outreach from the actual industry would go much further than any insta giveaway or gimmicky marketing campaigns.
just a couple ideas, nothing new though.
also it’s super common for skate teams to tour and do demos at parks, why don’t we see more of that? Sure film/comp tours are a bitch but outside of tell a friend tour there is barely any outreach from established teams or companies aside from film tours and windells.
Wanna know why Real skateboards are so common in the Midwest? It’s cause they do a ton of outreach and demos there. Hell if you look at armadas old Midwest tour you’ll see the same thing, armada skis used to be the Midwest staple because Phil and Henrik were constantly touring the Midwest and doing events there. It’s still a staple brand in the Midwest because of that. I think more outreach from the actual industry would go much further than any insta giveaway or gimmicky marketing campaigns.
just a couple ideas, nothing new though.
HiHowAreYou
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topic:.butterz. said:
A double-wide, diesel-powered, full circuit gondola looping around the cottonwoods connecting BCC, LCC, and the PC ridge.
**This post was edited on Sep 12th 2022 at 4:45:11pm
