What develops better skiers

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banged_ur_dad

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My friend and I occasionally debate what skiing discipline (racing, park, big mountain) creates better skiers later on. I understand this may be vague but interested in seeing what y'all have to say.
 
it’s moguls with aerials, fast technical skiing with freestyle in between. look at all the best free ride athletes and 8/10 came from moguls as kids

**This post was edited on Feb 7th 2024 at 9:40:41pm
 
topic:banged_ur_dad said:
My friend and I occasionally debate what skiing discipline (racing, park, big mountain) creates better skiers later on. I understand this may be vague but interested in seeing what y'all have to say.
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always hear people saying mogul racing cause i guess you have to be really confident and collected ramming into moguls at fast speeds and also the jumps are super kicky at you cant really afterbang out the extra momentum when you land so it forces you into good habits. I would say mogul skiing creates some really good slopestyle skiers too just out of the habit making
 
Easily moguls. Cant think of another discipline in skiing that builds more muscle, attention, and stamina. Its also those who can ski em efficiently and with ease. Skiers like Candide and THall both started with moguls, but it doesn't always have to be the case. Shane McConkey started with ski racing.
 
14588807:Rock_Inhabitant said:
True but I wonder why. Is it the combo of jumps + steep
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ski steep bumps=get better at skiing

jump lots and do backflips and corks lots=get better at those things too

let's be real here, carving is pretty easy to get the hang of when you're already in a good skiing stance.

Best skiers I know come from mogul backgrounds, with some racing and then they take all that good technique into the big mountain
 
Does it really matter if kids jump off the side of the lips. Especially as someone who used to get mad about it, it literally doesn’t affect me at all
 
What makes better skiers is skiers who are passionate and want to get better. The best dudes have skied and can ski anything, but usually find a certain discipline they love most and are the best at. Like Candide I'm sure could walk 98% of dudes at any given race but he can also cork onto rails... But he's also the goat of skiing anything big mountain.
 
14588816:keagan.karstens said:
Does it really matter if kids jump off the side of the lips. Especially as someone who used to get mad about it, it literally doesn’t affect me at all
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Looks like you’ve found yourself on the wrong thread by boy
 
14588807:Rock_Inhabitant said:
True but I wonder why. Is it the combo of jumps + steep
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Most people don’t realize all the little nuances of what goes into a good mogul skier. The jumps are only half the battle. You have to know more about timing, edge control, speed, impact absorption, balance, etc. You can throw perfect back to back corks and still not podium if your actual skiing technique is shitty.
 
riding jemskis lets you rotate faster, find beast street spots, and come with a free vx2000. safe to say if you want to get good at skiing buy jemskis.
 
14588838:Jems said:
riding jemskis lets you rotate faster, find beast street spots, and come with a free vx2000. safe to say if you want to get good at skiing buy jemskis.
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clip or it didnt happen
 
Start them young. Those little kids fucking slay. Watching a little kid do some hard as moguls with no poles following their parents blows my mind.
 
14588915:b_in_subtle said:
Moguls expose what you’re bad at and force you to correct or crash
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Most of my time the last couple years has been training moguls by myself to get better. It’s skyrocketed my overall skiing. Getting kicked backseat and out of control in large bumps will teach a lot.
 
14588838:Jems said:
riding jemskis lets you rotate faster, find beast street spots, and come with a free vx2000. safe to say if you want to get good at skiing buy jemskis.
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Its not funny anymore
 
14588832:270on420out said:
Most people don’t realize all the little nuances of what goes into a good mogul skier. The jumps are only half the battle. You have to know more about timing, edge control, speed, impact absorption, balance, etc. You can throw perfect back to back corks and still not podium if your actual skiing technique is shitty.
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Also the most important which most people forget is reflexes. You have to go from upside down into a line of steep bumps instantly, you have what, a quarter second to process where you are and adjust and commit to that line? A quarter second may be dramatic but it's almost instantaneous and that's a skill that translates super well to every other discipline
 
I think big mountain/freeride is an interesting one because both racing and park skills seem to translate very well into freeride, yet freeride skills don't really translate outside that well. Like your stereotypical great freerider can carve okay and do a few basic tricks on park jumps and that's about it
 
14589027:IsaacNW82 said:
I think big mountain/freeride is an interesting one because both racing and park skills seem to translate very well into freeride, yet freeride skills don't really translate outside that well. Like your stereotypical great freerider can carve okay and do a few basic tricks on park jumps and that's about it
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A lot of freeride kids nowadays are just offroad racers
 
Lot of opinions but I think people who learn race fundamentals early tend to be some of the best. They just really learn the basic mechanics well. Then they apply that to other disciplines. Lots of examples of that.
 
I think nowadays, the best skiers come out of the park. It's easier to focus on arcing turns properly, skiing pow, and proper form when you get into your later years. It's a lot harder and a lot rarer to see older skiers rapidly progress in freestyle maneuvers when they don't have a background in it.

This is assuming that you actually care to improve your general skiing form later on
 
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