What bindings to get?
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Addition to the last comment. Those are all great bindings. All really based on preference more or less. Something you might want to look at and think is the New Look Dual walk to ride Pivots. They come in a 14 din. They are the same heal piece as a regular pivot but the toe piece is new and redesigned this year. The toe piece has an adjustable height to accommodate rocketed boots and normal boots.
Negromancer
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STH2 are excellent. Super reliable and durable also you don't have the hassle of expensive and hard to replace brakes like you do with FKS/Pivots.
Whether or not you go for the 13 or 16 DIN version depends on your ability, size, and budget, both are excellent bindings and will serve you well.
Whether or not you go for the 13 or 16 DIN version depends on your ability, size, and budget, both are excellent bindings and will serve you well.
I don't know why everyone complains about fks or pivot brakes. They may be expensive but out of 5 pairs of these binding I have never had anything break on them. Simply mount them and forget about em.
FKS 180 or Pivot 18 for the win. Not to mention they protect your knees better than most all other bindings out there.
FKS 180 or Pivot 18 for the win. Not to mention they protect your knees better than most all other bindings out there.
Poikenz
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13481225:SLEEK said:
So why the need for 5 pairs then? Yes, I am assuming that if nothing was wrong with the first pair you'd never need to buy more than one set.
Currently the best binding seems entirely based on personal preference, especially when you look at bindings close to 14 DIN. I personally like the offerings from tyrolia because they go on sale for cheap quite a bit which is the most important factor for me.
Each binding has pros and cons, it's just picking out the pair that you can live with. As mentioned some people go through plenty of brakes, if you don't, then you might lean towards FKS because you like that they sit lower to the ski or the toe's elasticity matters to you (just as an example).
Caucasian_Asian
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13481987:Poikenz said:
I've owned 6+ pairs of FKS, and haven't skied on a single one.
I've also owned 15+ pairs of 916s. But that's because I've owned a lot of skis in my life, and I like to have a spare binding hoard.
And yes, the Tyrolias are the easiest to find deals on. L9 has GTO15s on sale for $100. Think about that for a minute. 5-15 DIN METAL bindings for less than a pair of Squires. Best. Deal. Ever.
Negromancer
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13481225:SLEEK said:
That's simply not true.
The binding that will protect your knees the best and keep them the safest is the binding that is suitable for your size + ability and is adjusted properly. It's actually quite silly to recommend 18 DIN bindings to people unless you know that they're either very heavy/tall or are going huge on a regular basis.
13481987:Poikenz said:
13483038:Negromancer said:
I have had 5 pairs because I currently own 3-pairs of skis with either FKS 140's of Look Pivot 14's mounted on them. The other two pairs were sold on skis I previously owned.
I agree completely that binding choice is total preference and cost was definitely a factor for me as well. That being said I have seen multiple places selling Look Pivot 14's or 18's for almost half off if you buy them out of season.
I also agree that if you do damage breaks on a Pivot or FKS it is a total bitch to change out and can be very costly and time extensive. I was just providing the fact that out of 5-pairs and many many days of hard riding I have never had a single issue.
I have also witnessed multiple friends break Marker Jester Pros numerous times and that has always steered me away from other similar offerings in the industry.
As for my comments about FKS and Pivots design being safer in my opinion I believe this is actually true. The best place to look for evidence of this is the fact that the majority of park and urban riders are riding these bindings not only because they are built to last (full metal design) but also because they provide the safest release when riding switch. The pivoting heal provides a much safer release when landing switch than any other binding out there as lateral pressures while riding backwards will not be as evident on the toe-pieces.
Just my two cents.
Negromancer
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13483100:SLEEK said:
Your two cents is wrong. It's a large misconception the pivoting heel provides extra safety. Rossignol/Look have never once claimed that the pivoting heel adds in extra safety. From what I understand the pivoting heel was originally designed to try to reduce the chances of having a spiral fracture on your fibula or tibia the design was not to try to reduce knee injuries.
At the end of the day if you crash in properly adjusted Tyrolia Attacks, STH2's, FKS, or Jesters the chances of doing damage to your knees or any other part of your body is probably equal.
Rice
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I have the marker griffons. They are really good and it is always easy to get replacement parts if you need them as shops generally always have spare marker parts.
Only downside, is that the binding is a bit hard to click in the pow. You have to stamp repetitively hard. Maybe I'm just retarded but anyway, its a good binding.
Only downside, is that the binding is a bit hard to click in the pow. You have to stamp repetitively hard. Maybe I'm just retarded but anyway, its a good binding.
littleman34
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the old tyrolia peak were the best bindings ever. now they stopped making the but they replaces them with the tyrolia attack's which are probably just as good.
littleman34
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the old tyrolia peak were the best bindings ever. now they stopped making the but they replaces them with the tyrolia attack's which are probably just as good.
as been mentioned a couple times past all bindings have their merits. Preference and price range are key.
one way too narrow some things down is to consider safety aspects of bindings. FKS/Pivot have the best lateral release in the heal and the Dual series now as a full sliding AFD plate in the toe but replacing broken brakes a an extreme head ache. And getting the right forward pressure can sometimes take an experienced hand as well you have to make sure the heal piece is in the right position to put the ski on.
Solamon STH 13 and 16s are fantastic beefy almost bomb proof bindings and are easy to fix breaks but don't really have lateral release out of the heal and can have adjustable toe height as well. Super easy to adjust to the right forward pressure
Marker Girffon bindings are fantastic, simple and fairly hassle free and often at a better price point with easy to adjust forward pressure and easy to swap brakes. Same as the Solamon they don't really have lateral release out of the heal.
I have not road anything from Tyrolla in recent years so i can't speak to them personally which is why i left them out.
All in all, Consider the safety features you might want. Don't buy a bigger Din than you actually need and keep your budget in mind.
one way too narrow some things down is to consider safety aspects of bindings. FKS/Pivot have the best lateral release in the heal and the Dual series now as a full sliding AFD plate in the toe but replacing broken brakes a an extreme head ache. And getting the right forward pressure can sometimes take an experienced hand as well you have to make sure the heal piece is in the right position to put the ski on.
Solamon STH 13 and 16s are fantastic beefy almost bomb proof bindings and are easy to fix breaks but don't really have lateral release out of the heal and can have adjustable toe height as well. Super easy to adjust to the right forward pressure
Marker Girffon bindings are fantastic, simple and fairly hassle free and often at a better price point with easy to adjust forward pressure and easy to swap brakes. Same as the Solamon they don't really have lateral release out of the heal.
I have not road anything from Tyrolla in recent years so i can't speak to them personally which is why i left them out.
All in all, Consider the safety features you might want. Don't buy a bigger Din than you actually need and keep your budget in mind.
13512567:rozboon said:
I do own a pair of Pivots and if the forward pressure is set correct (actually correct not just following the little white thing on the heal that is out the lunch) The heel piece will rotate just enough and allow the boot to release to the side (in very weird wipe outs) .
I had an extremely big wipe skiing big mt last season and this was actually how the ski released and the reason I didn't blow my knee.
yes the knee binding are the "only" ones that say to do this out side of tech bindings. Im just speaking from experience here since it happened to me and before i was the same about how there was no release like that from the heal.
rozboon
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13512588:sammy_JJ said:
Seriously, go clip a boot into a FKS, you could hit the heel of your boot with a sledgehammer and it wouldn't come out. It will just go sideways into the heel arms and stop dead. If your heelpiece pivoted it's either because your forward pressure is way too low or your toe had come out first.
Just think about the force vectors for a moment and try to work out how your scenario would even be feasible, in the way you describe it.