salomon, is not bad, u just cant be retarded setting them up. i love salomons a lot better, but u cna ride a low din(i ride like 8-9) and u can have like nice, easy latteral release=no knee injury. and so they are really tough to get out of vertically, so like. theyre petty much the best. IF u set um up right, and dont like leave them all shitty nad never do anyhting about it but complain about how bad they are.