What Arc'teryx Shell

9try

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I was looking at the Saber AR, Cassiar, and Beta Ar. Anyone have any experience with any of these?
 
I have a Beta AR (and a bunch of other Arc shit, I like their stuff).

First you have to decide whether you want a ski specific shell (Sabre AR and Cassiar) or just a shell, and if you are going to use it outside skiing. The main difference is the ski shells have powder skirts, so if you have a bib you probably don't care/don't want that.

Also a huge difference is the Sabre AR has a flannel liner, so some insulation built-in. That may make it better for skiing for your preferences, but at the cost of being less versatile for other activities.

Cassiar also has a removable hood if that matters to you. Another thing to note is that the Cassiar and Beta AR both have DropHoods, which is the type which wraps around your neck, as opposed to the Sabre which has a StormHood, which is the more traditional style that some people (including myself) prefer as it doesn't have material that goes around/behind your neck and generally fits helmets a bit better. The Cassiar also has an insulated neck area for its DropHood.

You gotta decide whether this is gonna be exclusively a ski jacket as well. Most people who buy an Arc jacket for skiing and use outside skiing tend to go with a Beta SV, which is similar to the Beta AR but a bit longer cut, slightly more durable, and it has the StormHood which people tend to prefer. It's a very versatile piece.

The materials of the Beta AR are less durable than the other two jackets, but the reinforcments are on par. Beta SV is slightly more durable overall and doesn't have reinforcements because the material overall is all more durable.

If you give me some more info I'd be happy to help you hone it in from here!
 
14225675:Jeteroll said:
I have a Beta AR (and a bunch of other Arc shit, I like their stuff).

First you have to decide whether you want a ski specific shell (Sabre AR and Cassiar) or just a shell, and if you are going to use it outside skiing. The main difference is the ski shells have powder skirts, so if you have a bib you probably don't care/don't want that.

Also a huge difference is the Sabre AR has a flannel liner, so some insulation built-in. That may make it better for skiing for your preferences, but at the cost of being less versatile for other activities.

Cassiar also has a removable hood if that matters to you. Another thing to note is that the Cassiar and Beta AR both have DropHoods, which is the type which wraps around your neck, as opposed to the Sabre which has a StormHood, which is the more traditional style that some people (including myself) prefer as it doesn't have material that goes around/behind your neck and generally fits helmets a bit better. The Cassiar also has an insulated neck area for its DropHood.

You gotta decide whether this is gonna be exclusively a ski jacket as well. Most people who buy an Arc jacket for skiing and use outside skiing tend to go with a Beta SV, which is similar to the Beta AR but a bit longer cut, slightly more durable, and it has the StormHood which people tend to prefer. It's a very versatile piece.

The materials of the Beta AR are less durable than the other two jackets, but the reinforcments are on par. Beta SV is slightly more durable overall and doesn't have reinforcements because the material overall is all more durable.

If you give me some more info I'd be happy to help you hone it in from here!

Do you have experience with a lot of their line? Do they make anything that’s longer cut than usual? I want a jacket that actually covers my ass and doesn’t sit at my hips
 
I have the rush jacket and it’s not like down to my knees but it’s a good longer fit compared to the more traditional waist high stuff they have.
 
14225707:tomPietrowski said:
I have the rush jacket and it’s not like down to my knees but it’s a good longer fit compared to the more traditional waist high stuff they have.

Do you happen to know the length from the shoulder to the bottom hem?
 
14225702:animator said:
Do you have experience with a lot of their line? Do they make anything that’s longer cut than usual? I want a jacket that actually covers my ass and doesn’t sit at my hips

I have a good amount of experience with their non-skiing shells yeah, haven't tried much of their ski-specific stuff tho. The SV shells will generally be longer cut, and especially the Alpha line is a climbing specific cut so it dips over your ass much more than the Beta line. I have an Alpha SV and it definitely dips lower than their other jackets and ends a few inches below my ass. I think their ski jackets are generally cut lower as well.

If you are looking for something that will be a significant long cut like a jacket you'd find people from NS wearing where it goes like half way to your knees or somewhere close, they definitely don't make those unfortunately.

Their website has pretty great pics and model specs if you want to compare yourself where you can see the front and back of the jacket cut.

**This post was edited on Jan 10th 2021 at 9:24:58pm

**This post was edited on Jan 10th 2021 at 9:25:41pm
 
14225675:Jeteroll said:
I have a Beta AR (and a bunch of other Arc shit, I like their stuff).

First you have to decide whether you want a ski specific shell (Sabre AR and Cassiar) or just a shell, and if you are going to use it outside skiing. The main difference is the ski shells have powder skirts, so if you have a bib you probably don't care/don't want that.

Also a huge difference is the Sabre AR has a flannel liner, so some insulation built-in. That may make it better for skiing for your preferences, but at the cost of being less versatile for other activities.

Cassiar also has a removable hood if that matters to you. Another thing to note is that the Cassiar and Beta AR both have DropHoods, which is the type which wraps around your neck, as opposed to the Sabre which has a StormHood, which is the more traditional style that some people (including myself) prefer as it doesn't have material that goes around/behind your neck and generally fits helmets a bit better. The Cassiar also has an insulated neck area for its DropHood.

You gotta decide whether this is gonna be exclusively a ski jacket as well. Most people who buy an Arc jacket for skiing and use outside skiing tend to go with a Beta SV, which is similar to the Beta AR but a bit longer cut, slightly more durable, and it has the StormHood which people tend to prefer. It's a very versatile piece.

The materials of the Beta AR are less durable than the other two jackets, but the reinforcments are on par. Beta SV is slightly more durable overall and doesn't have reinforcements because the material overall is all more durable.

If you give me some more info I'd be happy to help you hone it in from here!

Yeah, I have bibs so I'm not too worried about a pow skirt. Right now I have an old Patagonia torrent shell so I'm thinking about going with the ski shell. Does the beta ar have 2 interior pockets
 
14225728:9try said:
Yeah, I have bibs so I'm not too worried about a pow skirt. Right now I have an old Patagonia torrent shell so I'm thinking about going with the ski shell. Does the beta ar have 2 interior pockets

It only has one small interior chest pocket actually. I can't even fit my phone in it.
 
The sabre is LT is the longer cut freeride jacket, I have one thats 3 seasons old now and still looks fresh, I think they added a pocket or two to the newest design. Gore pro is hard to beat for staying dry.
 
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