if all you want to do is park, t-line has 2 that are both about .5 miles long with tons of different rails and a variety of hits, but the pipe has like 12 foot walls and a really short tranny now. i was at meadows yesterday and they have 2 kick ass perfect pipes, but only a total of 3 lame single barrel rails and 3 (10-15 ft)small tables and 3 big tables (20-25 ft). but if you want steeps and all mtn., go to meadows. meadows also does that blue paint stuff on the lips to make it easier to judge your takeoff