Well, we did it.. The North Pole is now a lake.

This, this isn't the first time its happened and its not the worst either. Its also just the north pole not the entire ice cap.
 
Good thing the first thing you did was fully believe what the media had to tell you. Grains of salt my friend, take them with everything.
 
The true magnetic North Pole constantly moves, so it is never the same and may often times not be over a body of land (I'm probably wrong but I'm pretty sure it's not over any land right now). Also it moves at about 35mi/yr so it's constantly changing

The fact that one place in the arctic circle has become a 1' deep lake isn't something new, and has been happening for a while
 
I remember when the Earth was in an ice age. And then it wasn't. And then it was. And then it wasn't.

I'm not saying we need to care about the environment, but people also need to just sack up and fix it instead of complaining and still driving their cars, opening their fridges, and eating preservatives. Everyone is a hypocrite.
 
youre out of your league here man

the scientific community (you know, the people who actually have to back up the shit they say) are divided on this issue....literally something like 97% to 3%

yes, there are cycles on the earth but the data show that this particular one is not "normal" and it has a lot to do with humans

i really fail to understand why people feel like they're qualified to make judgements on this issue without knowing a thing about the current discourse in the scientific community.. do you also combat extensive peer reviewed literature on physics, chemistry, biology, etc with one liners you heard 2nd or 3rd hand?

no, because that's stupid.....
 
200 million years ago there was 4-5x the amount of co2 in the atmosphere. yup, earth is still here....and there was actually more biodiversity because of the warmer climate.
 
dude you are so fucking stupid it's unreal

stop pretending you have anything to back up the nonsense that youre typing. impressionable people will read your posts and actually believe it..

stop posting shit you can't back up. you would get laughed out of the ROOM if you actually tried this shit in the company of scientists

seriously, i really don't get how people like you are so delusional
 
implying the magnetic North Pole matters at all when discussing climate change.

and it's not one place. it's happening all over the Arctic, were not too long ago even in the hottest of summers it would be solid ice and snow pack with now liquid water on the surface.
 
you're an idiot. not to be so blunt.

biodiversity 200 million years ago was about 1/5th what it is today. based on the best estimates at current.
 
im not going to sit here and trade papers with you dude, there is so much literature on this subject that going back and forth on a SINGLE paper is only one level less retarded than the one liners people usually use

if youre reading this and are on the fence, don't listen to me, don't listen to this fucktard, don't listen to a program. go online and immerse yourself in the current scientific discourse and see for yourself what the current understanding in science is of climate change. that is the ONLY way to get the most accurate conceptualizations of what is going on and what the disagreements are over. laymen going back and forth in a forum is fucking absurd. end of discussion
 
did you actually read the article you just posted, or did you just control F it to find the one stat to prove your point? the article explicitly states that CO2 is not always the primary driver of global warming, and that periods of high CO2 do not overlap with periods of glaciation (read: high CO2 = no ice). no ice sheets means there is an increased sea level, decreased libido, increased oceanic longitudinal currents, and, therefore, no more cold water. during the ordovician this occurred because antarctica was attached to australia, cutting off the southern polar oceanic current which, today, basically keeps cold water circling the pole, instead of flowing towards the equator to warm up. with that current cut off, the cold polar waters passed along the equators as well, warming all the oceans, melting the ice caps. all this means that the global glaciation threshold of CO2 is completely different today than it was during the earlier periods of the phanerozioc, and cnnot be compared figure for figure. also what this means is that as we pass the modern CO2 threshold and all of the effects mentioned above take place, sea levels can be expected to rise several hundred feet. this would decimate almost every major city in the world, as well as fuck over our ski season. (sources: the one you provided in an attempt to disprove the theory of climate change, and my geology 103 notes. its a fucking entry level class and it still disproves your claims.)

so please, when you make a claim, try to look at all the information available. there are many more factors involved in something as complex as climate change, and if you try to pull one piece of data and use it for an argument then you are simply bad at the scientific method.
 
when there have been literally thousands of peer reviewed articles on the subject and nearly 100% support of the findings by the scientific community, one tends to accept it as fact. who are you to discredit it?
 
"The North Pole is currently a lake, Canada.com reports."

Well theres your problem. Those canadian sons of bitches are trying to sabotage Christmas.
 
you either have literally no clue how science works, or youre purposely acting stupid. either way it's fucking pathetic

 
Yeah, their tests are designed to the utmost exacting specificity and their findings are put under strenuous evaluation from unbiased peers worldwide. There's no way they can be right!

This fits well here haha

 
Who fucking cares, the earth has been constantly changing since its fucking creation. "Global Warming" is just the next phase for the earth, stop blaming people for things we cant prevent. Do you liberals blame cavemen for the Ice Ages? Get fucking real.
 
wow, a post telling people not to argue about climate change on a forum and instead actually read the scientific literature about it gets downvoted.... real bunch of geniuses here

you realize how crazy that is, right?
 
sheepy sheepy sheepy. It's the media doing what they do best. Turning you into a fear mongerer. They're blowing this way out of proportion.
 
Well considering its summer, the north pole just went thru a shit ton of consecutive sunlight and nigga proportions of radiation
 
You're stupid to be amazed and scared of a lake forming on the pole.... But you're also stupid to not be worried about the state of our planet. We're fucked guys. If carbon emissions were to end today entirely the decline of earth would continue for over 100 years as our emissions in the past caught up to us. We have overshot our margin but we have yet to reach our point of collapse... Not sure what's going to happen when we do, but shits gonna hit the fan.
 
3 irrefutable facts:

1 humans are responsible for the unnatural rise in atmospheric CO2

2 CO2 is a greenhouse gas which makes the atmosphere and the earth hotter

3 the earth is getting hotter

now get out of your air conditioned homes, hop in your turbo diesel trucks and speed on down to McDonald's and eat your weight in Big Macs and justify it to yourself because the earth was a big ball of Ice once.
 
He isn't wrong. We're still in an ice age technically and it's natural for the ice caps to melt. Too much green house gas is fucking the ozone and stuff though. So that isn't good. But yeah.
 
maybe it is natural for them to melt, but for the entire existence of humanity there have been ice caps, and bigger ones than there are today. considering how almost all civilization is developed directly on the shorelines, its in our best interest to keep as much water frozen at the poles as we possibly can. or else i hope youre a good swimmer.
 
^ swimmings the least of your problems if you create an estimated 1 billion "climate refugees" by taking out everyone who live on shorelines, society will collapse. netflix the island president he's a badass mofo
 
The biggest contributions to climate change were in the 90s, and decades before. Its gone down a lot since then. But the we've just recently noticed that the changes have caught up to us.
 
Folks this why at this point environmentalism is merely a form of conceit. The Earth will be better off without us

Just a comedian making light of this view (:

Now go read Vonnegut novels until the ski season begins

 
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