Weed? legalize?

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im just repostin this it seems like we could get a bunch of posts on thisi vote legalize i mean what could happen help out the economy and the killing over drugs

I saw this in NSG no less but it wasn't getting much attention. A lot of you might have heard about the 17 year old HS student who was kicked out of school and arrested for lighting up a joint while giving a speech on marijuana at school.
I read the speech and found it quite well written. I especially liked his take on why cannabis is illegal. He gave the usual talk about Anslinger, Hearst, and Dupont but extrapolated on it a little further. Definitely some fodder for those of us who like to argue with people about legalization.

Here's the news story. http://www.kirotv.com/news/19634608/detail.html

It's a long read, but worth it if you've got time.

Ian Barry
Persuasive essay
Napier 1st
25-May-2009

Legalize Marijuana

Can I see a show of hands how many people here have ever smoked Cannabis sativa, commonly known as marijuana? I see none of you raised your hand. Well obviously no one would want to admit to a criminal activity in front of their teacher. But why is it that smoking pot is so taboo in our society? After all numerous famous intellectuals support marijuana. Al Gore is considered by many to be the leading figure in climate change awareness and environmental preservation. But few people know that Al Gore also supports the legalization of marijuana. The famed German philosopher Freidrich Nietzche once said, “If one seeks relief from unbearable pressure one is to eat hashish”. The founding father of our nation George Washington, said, “Make the most of the Indian hemp seed, and sow it everywhere!” Marijuana is one of the safest medicinal substances on the planet and is supported by many acclaimed celebrity role models. Famous Hollywood actor Johnny Depp says, “I’m not a big pothead or anything like that… but weed is much, much less dangerous than alcohol”. Other well known supporters of marijuana include Snoop Dogg, all of the Marley family, Niel Young, Willie Nelson, Michael Phelps, Chris Farley, Al Gore, Andrew Jackson, Abraham Lincoln, Nietzche, Barack Obama, John Adams, James Madison, JFK, and of course myself. A total of 11 United States presidents either grew, smoked, or supported the legalization of Marijuana. With the support of some of the greatest thinkers and world leaders of all time it’s a wonder that marijuana is still illegal. “Government ties is really why the government lies” – Immortal Technique. Common Misconceptions about marijuana are set about by high end government officials who think only of themselves and own their prosperity. For instance few people know the history of weed and the means by which it was criminalized.

Most of you have probably seen “Reefer Madness”, the ridiculous propaganda film set about by the U.S. government to discourage the use of marijuana. The movie debuted in 1936 making arbitrary claims, calling Cannabis “The devils weed”, and stating that weed is more dangerous that cocaine or opium. This was the outlook of the government at the turn of the century, but in fact pot was smoked as early as 2700 BC, in China. In 500 AD marijuana spread to Europe and Africa where it was cultivated and smoked for its medicinal qualities. By 1545 marijuana had been introduced to the New World where it was grown as a cash crop alongside tobacco and cotton. Sold in bars throughout the Americas pot was seen as tobaccos little brother. It is reported that several of our founding fathers including Benjamin Franklin and George Washington smoked ganja out of water hookahs with Turkish emissaries shortly after the revolutionary war. After this experience both Franklin and Washington began to grow weed for themselves. At the turn of the 20th century marijuana began to gain popularity and by the 1920’s was the drug of choice for America’s youth. Historians say this popularity is what led to its prohibition. But history itself tells a different story. Whenever something be-it and idea, substance, or social behavior, becomes popular, American companies brand and market it for all it’s worth. Take for example punk rock which originally was a counterculture but through marketing was assimilated into mainstream society. So why is it that the same fate was not suffered by marijuana, why was it made illegal?

In 1937 the first official action was taken against weed, the Marihuana Tax Act. The act itself did not criminalize the possession of cannabis but levied a tax on anyone dealing the substance. This didn’t just mean the buds anything with hemp or hemp oil in it was essentially taxed out of business. A legitimate dealer was required to have a tax stamp but no stamps were ever printed. These over elaborate regulations prevented marijuana from being a profitable source of income. In reference to the International Opium Convention of 1928 Cannabis sativa was considered a drug and all state governments had some kind of laws against its consumption. Today it is generally accepted that these hearings included incorrect, excessive, and unfounded arguments. The Marijuana Tax Act was introduced to the U.S. congress by “Drug Czar” Harry Anslinger, a man who had no sense of morals and may have had NPD (narcissistic personality disorder), not to mention his pig faced features. Anslinger is where the conspiracy starts. 1937, the year the tax act was passed, was coincidentally the same year that the Decorticater Machine was invented, with this new technology the hemp industry would have been able to take over competing industries virtually overnight. “Popular Mechanics” predicted that hemp would be America’s first billion dollar crop. William Hearst, a corporate business owner, possessed enormous acreage of forest. His land and paper making company would have lost tremendous value and eventually gone bankrupt had the tax act not been passed. Hearst reportedly had strong influence in Congress and his interest in preventing hemp production is easily explained. DuPont, a chemical company that was involved in other industries, also had a hand in the conspiracy. At the time of the Marihuana Tax Act DuPont was patenting a new acid process for producing wood pulp based paper. With the boom of the hemp industry this invention would have been useless. DuPont was also in the railroad car industry. According to their own records wood pulp products accounted for 80% of all DuPont’s railroad car loadings for the 50 years prior to 1937. 80% of all their profits would have been lost with a hemp takeover. Two years earlier, in 1935, DuPont developed nylon, a substitute for hemp rope. Nylon was equal in strength and quality but with the Decorticater Machine would not have been cost effective when sold alongside hemp. Even with hemp eliminated nylon was not extremely profitable. The year after the tax was passed DuPont came out with rayon, a very cost effective fiber that would not have been able to compete with the strength and durability of hemp. Harry Anslinger, the man who proposed the Marihuana Tax Act, was also a CEO of DuPont, and would have stood to loose millions had marijuana not been driven out of business. Anslinger, who was married to Treasury Secretary Andrew Mellon’s niece, was appointed to lead the FBN (Federal Bureau of Narcotics). It’s widely believed that his relationship with Mellon is what earned him the promotion. Harry Anslinger’s first action as commissioner was to pass the Marijuana Tax Act. Reasoning behind Anslinger, Hearst, and DuPont was for no moral or medical issues. They fought to criminalize marijuana to save their business and to save money. It’s simply another example of capitalist pigs taking advantage of their power and manipulating the law for personal gain. Marijuana continued to be present in society throughout the 40’s and 50’s. During this time it came to be associated with the rise of rock n’ roll. The hippi movement of the 1960’s and 70’s was largely involved in experimental drug use. Artists such as The Beatles and Jimi Hendrix experimented with drugs like acid and heroin. Their fans followed suit but Mary Jane remained America’s drug of choice. The increased support of the environmentalist movement also supported the use of weed. Hemp can be made into paper that is equivalent to paper made from trees, without destroying the rainforests. After all the first, third and final drafts of the Declaration of Independence were all written on hemp paper. At anti-Vietnam protests many people could be seen smoking pot. This fueled the idea that marijuana should be legal, and in the late 60’s the first serious calls for legalization were made.

In 1975 weed supporters around the United States celebrated a victory as Alaska decriminalized the use and possession of small amounts of Cannabis. Until, in 1990, residents voted to recriminalize the substance. During those 15 years Alaska prospered and its economy was the highest it had been in years. Calling it a “dangerous experiment” the DEA’s stated reason for the recriminalization was that “teenagers used marijuana at twice the national average”. I think it’s pretty obvious that when a substance is legalized it will be used more than when it was illegal. Had we kept the same policy throughout history alcohol should have been recriminalized shortly after the repealing of the 18th amendment due to an increase in alcohol consumption. Several other countries have attempted various forms of legalizing drugs, in the Netherlands marijuana is illegal but under certain restrictions its consumption is allowed. The coffee shops of Amsterdam are renowned worldwide as a pot-smokers Mecca. Coffee shops are allowed to sell under 5 grams of marijuana as long as it is smoked on the premises. One of the opposition’s most acclaimed arguments is that legalizing marijuana will lead to an increase in crime rates. The only way to prove this theory is through real life experience. The only domestic experience we have with legalized pot was in Alaska in the 70’s and 80’s. Government analysis showed that there was no change in the crime rate for these years. All other claims about the marijuana-crime correlation are mere speculation. The fact is that Amsterdam has a lower crime rate than any major U.S. city. One could argue that the Alaskan experiment actually benefited the crime rate. As a whole, the national crime rate went up from 1975 to 1990, while Alaska’s remained the same.

Other Cannabis antagonists look to Switzerland’s Needle Park experiment to justify marijuana’s legal status. People in Needle Park were allowed to openly purchase and use drugs without police intervention. The idea was to give addicts a “clean and safe” environment to inject heroin. To compare this with legalizing marijuana is absolutely absurd. First, in terms of classification marijuana and heroin are completely different. Heroin is a level five highly addictive drug that causes long term brain damage as well as damage to the central nervous system. A heroin addict will experience collapsed veins, infection of the heart lining, abscesses, and liver disease. Not to mention second hand use of needles often leads to full blown accounts of AIDS. Marijuana on the other hand has its own category and no proven health detriments. The results of Needle Park cannot be compared to those of legalizing marijuana. Your parents have probably told you that smoking pot causes lung cancer and brain damage. Unfortunately they were probably teenagers in the 70’s and smoked pot themselves so their very objection to weed is extremely hypocritical. The U.S. government provides facts and statistics that seem to demonstrate the pernicious nature of marijuana. Let’s take a look at the so called facts that the DEA claims are results of the habitual smoking of Cannabis sativa. First, and I quote, “Marijuana is an addictive drug”. That my friends is an outright lie. All clinical studies including those conducted by the government have concluded that marijuana contains no addictive properties. A person can become chemically dependent on the drug but that is radically different than an addiction. Another study regulated by the government studied 182 “random” fatal truck accidents. It just so happened that in these “random” accidents marijuana was present in as many of the drivers as alcohol. The National Transportation Safety Board then determined that marijuana is just as dangerous as alcohol while driving. The reasoning behind this argument has more than several flaws. First of all marijuana can stay in a persons system for more than 2 weeks, there is no way to tell that the drivers were high at the time of their accidents. Now I’m not an expert but I know that 182 is not a large enough number to be considered reliable research. To study 182 of 5 ¼ million accidents, .0034%, and make apocryphal claims based on that research shows ineptitude beyond that of any man disposed to devout his life to a hierarchy of pious infidels who understand nothing of the nature and complexity of life.

Other major concerns of consuming marijuana are lung and brain damage, as well as memory loss. According to the UCLA School of Medicine “marijuana does not impair long term memory”. Weed can cause short term memory loss but only while under the influence, the same can be said for alcohol and many over the counter sleeping medications. Brain damage that does occur is not because of any chemical property in ganja, but because the brain is deprived of oxygen for so long that brain cells are killed. For any self acclaimed pot smoker that’s an easy fix, just don’t hold your hits in for so long. One of the studies that is referred to the most was performed on monkeys in which they suffered severe brain damage. It was only until recently in careful review of the study that we discovered that the monkeys were breathing pure THC for over a minute, that lack of oxygen is what killed the brain cells, not the marijuana. The other substantial health concern is over lung function. Also according to the UCLA School of Medicine “neither the continuing nor intermittent marijuana smokers exhibited any significantly different rates of lung function as compared to those individuals who never smoked marijuana”. The study was conducted on 243 pot smokers over an 8 year period. Another of the governments’ critical expostulations against legalizing marijuana is that pharmaceutical companies have developed a synthetic THC pill called Marinol. But Marinol is substantially different than marijuana. First, it’s not real THC; there is not one part of the Cannabis sativa plant in Marinol. It’s a bunch of chemicals that some scientist mixes up in a lab. Second Marinol is only available through prescription, so it’s incontrovertibly not the same as legalizing marijuana. Not only is it very hard to obtain a prescription, the requirements exclude nearly everyone. You must either be a cancer patient who underwent chemotherapy or be an AIDS patient who has appetite loss. Both diseases have no cure and are generally fatal. So the government won’t let you take Marinol unless you have a virtual death sentence. If I have a malignant disease I’m not going to take the time to get a government prescription, I’m going to smoke the real thing. So please don’t feed me spurious claims that legal marijuana already exists.

Now that I have addressed the supposed health detriments let’s take a look at the medical benefits of Cannabis. As mentioned above marijuana has been infallibly proven to relieve the vomiting and nausea that come with chemotherapy. Many cancer patients have said that marijuana was the best treatment for their symptoms. I interviewed a cancer patient who has miraculously over come the disease, for privacy reasons I won’t reveal their name but when asked about the effects of marijuana the interviewee said, “I would not have lived if I didn’t smoke lots of marijuana”. Isn’t it interesting that cancer, one of the world’s deadliest, incurable diseases, is treated with marijuana, an illegal drug? Marijuana is also used for treating multiple sclerosis and several mood disorders. After smoking small amounts of marijuana patients are said to be relaxed and stress free. Unlike alcohol which is a depressant, Cannabis can be used to treat low level depression. Most depression is caused by stress; smoking pot relieves stress and thus relieves depression. Glaucoma is yet another disease that smoking weed will treat. Glaucoma is an optical disease that leads to permanent damage of the optic nerve endings and resultant visual fields, which can ultimately progress to blindness. Glaucoma is the leading cause of blindness in the world and doctors predict that this number will increase as longevity also increases. Symptoms of glaucoma include intraocular pressure, patches of vision loss, headaches, and pain behind the eyeball. Despite making the eyes red marijuana actually lowers intraocular pressure and can prevent as well as cure Glaucoma all together. As you can see marijuana has copious medical uses and little to no medical handicaps. For it to illegal while tobacco and alcohol are legal is absolute madness.

Like any substance marijuana can be abused, but it is impossible to overdose on. The most common problem associated with marijuana abuse is lethargic behavior, but does not cause serious health or social concerns. Overuse of alcohol will result in an inability to walk, stand, or even death, whereas overuse of weed will simply put a person to sleep. 40% of all fatal car accidents are caused by alcohol while no car accidents ever have been directly caused by marijuana. Alcohol induces violent behavior and is often attributed to wife beating and other violent behaviors. Someone under the influence of alcohol will experience fits if rage which has often led to their own demise or the death of others, while someone who got high from marijuana will stroll around pleasantly with a smile on their face in search of the nearest McDonald’s. It is as the iconoclast Bob Marley once said, “Herb is the healing of the nation, alcohol is the destruction”. Cigarettes are another legal substance that are far more dangerous than some good sensimilla. Smoking cigarettes is the leading cause of lung cancer in America. Tobacco cigarettes are filled with harmful chemicals such as nicotine, rat poison, formaldehyde, ammonia, and arsenic. Both cigarettes and alcohol are immensely addictive phenomenon’s that lead to very serious health problems, predominantly cancer, and ultimately death. Marijuana is considered by many to be a dangerous substance but in reality many of our legal drugs are far more portentous.

Annual American Deaths Caused by Drugs Tobacco…………….. 400,000
Alcohol……………… 100,000
All legal drugs………. 20,000
All illegal drugs…….. 15,000
Caffeine…………….. 2,000
Aspirin……………… 500
Marijuana…………… 0

In all of recorded history going back as far as 2700 BC there has never been one single human death attributed to a health problem caused by marijuana.

Not only is marijuana a safe drug with medical benefits but it could rapidly stimulate our failing economy. At its current rate of production legal marijuana generates 35.8 billion dollars per year. Profits from marijuana exceed that of corn and wheat combined. And that’s just the legal margins. Revenue from illegal domestic marijuana is speculated at around 60 billion dollars a year. That’s a total of 95.8 billion dollars each year excluding imports. Marijuana is considered by profuse amounts of economists to already be our nation’s number one cash crop. It’s already the number 1 cash crop in 12 states including California, Alaska, and Hawaii. In Washington weed is second only to apples. In 30 other states ganja is among the top three on the list of cash crops. As Thomas Jefferson said, “Hemp is of first necessity to the wealth and protection of the country”. George Washington himself predicted that hemp would be our most valuable product. Economists estimate that if marijuana were legalized annual tax returns would be 6.2 billion dollars. That’s over 6 billion dollars in the hands of the federal government rather than in the hands of so called drug criminals. This money could be spent on combating the flow of hard, more serpentine drugs onto our streets.

If the fact that legalizing marijuana will engender enormous sums of money isn’t enough for some skeptics let’s take a look at the money that it will save. Approximately 7.7 billion dollars is spent annually on law enforcement to traverse marijuana consumption. Legalizing marijuana would eliminate 100% of these costs. Another taxpayer expense that would be emphatically reduced is prison disbursements. New FBI statistics show that one marijuana smoker is arrested every 45 seconds, by the end of my speech more than 20 people will have been incarcerated on marijuana related offenses. Since 1990 5.9 million innocent Americans have been arrested on Cannabis charges, a number greater than the population of Alaska, North Dakota, South Dakota, Vermont, and Wyoming combined. 88% of all people in jail, a staggering 2 million, are there due to marijuana offenses. In the case that marijuana is legalized that number will be reduced to 440,000 people, a prodigious decline. The deprivation of operating prisons would also deteriorate dramatically. The cost of operating prisons comes directly out of taxpayers pockets. Currently a 40 billion dollar per year expenditure would be cut back to 8.8 billion dollars, still a gargantuan amount but much, much less than what it was. With this amount of savings and profits I find it amazing that our capitalist society hasn’t already demanded the legalization of pot.

Simply selling the buds is not the only way to make money off the Cannabis sativa plant. Hemp fibers from the stalks have countless other uses. An entire hemp based industry will be created. Oil extracted from the seeds was used to lubricate gears and mechanisms in many of the original cars including Henry Ford’s Model T. Hemp fiber, renown for its strength, has long been used to test the durability of other fibers. When George Bush Sr. was forced to eject from his F-50 over Vietnam, the parachute that saved his life was made from 100% hemp fiber. Hemp can be made into rope, clothing, and paper. More important than the products made will be the jobs procreated by this industry. The current unemployment rate is 8.9% as of April 2009. 8.9% sounds like a small number out of 100 but 8.9% translates to over 13.7 million people without a job. I talked about tax deficits earlier but how about the decrease in taxes if all 13.7million people got off welfare and started working in the pot industry. Though legalizing marijuana won’t create all 13.7 million jobs necessary it will create some. That’s a step in the right direction to resurrect our falling economy.

A common misconception is that smoking sensimilla makes a person this lazy, unexcited, useless, crippling abrasion to society. That’s not true at all. Like most Americans, people who smoke pot pay taxes, love and support their families, and work hard to make a better life for their children. Suddenly they are arrested, jailed, and treated like criminals solely because they choose to relax in a way that is safer than tobacco or alcohol. State agencies frequently step in and declare children of marijuana smokers to be “in danger”, and many children are placed into foster homes as a result. This causes enormous pain, suffering, and financial hardship for millions of honest American families. It also engenders distrust and disrespect for the law and criminal justice system overall. If the children of marijuana smokers are in danger than the children of cigarette smokers and alcoholics are in a situation far more perilous. Responsible pot smokers present no threat or danger to America and there is no reason to treat them as criminals.

Many people also believe that marijuana is a gateway drug and will lead to other more dangerous drugs. It’s true that most people who do hard drugs didn’t immediately start out snorting cocaine or shooting heroin, but smoking pot every now and then doesn’t condemn you to be some cracked out heroin feign. As it stands right now only a small portion of sensi smokers go on to harder drugs and I’m sure that number will go down if marijuana is legalized. If kids could run down to the gas station and pick up some weed their interest in other drugs would be diminished. The only way that pot could be considered a gateway drug is if it is sold alongside hard drugs. True some pot dealers sell harder stuff but legalizing marijuana completely negates that arguement. If marijuana were legal there would be no need for side street dealers who might have hard drugs on them, it could be sold in any convenience store across the country. I know for a fact that teenagers would much rather get high legally than break the law to do so. The problem is legal highs aren’t readily available, the closest you can get is with cigarettes which not only taste disgusting but are extremely deleterious to your health and the health of others. Implying that smoking weed always leads to harder drugs is like saying that anyone who has ever stolen something will go on to armed piracy of oil tankers. The Somalians that hijacked those tankers probably did steal in their youth but that doesn’t mean everyone who steals will end up like them. Marijuana as a gateway drug is a false implication and cannot be used in a serious discussion about legalizing marijuana. Many people also insinuate that marijuana leads people to a life of crime. The only way to test this theory is to study the results when pot is legal. Amsterdam, where marijuana is legal, has a lower crime rate than any major U.S. city. I think that soundly disproves that theory and clearly shows that smoking marijuana is not a gateway to anything illegal.

I have provided you with information, facts and statistical evidence that all point towards the legalization of marijuana. But the truth is it doesn’t matter what I say until you, the people, stand up and besiege the government to re-address the litigation of marijuana. But I’m sure there are many of you thinking, “Well that’s a great speech in all but I don’t smoke pot so why should I care if it’s legal or not?” So I have come up with several reasons why everyone should support the legalizing of marijuana. If you’re politically left wing stick it to the corporal business owners who made it illegal in the first place. If your right wing, marijuana is our number 1 cash crop, legalized we can make even more money than we are now. If your Christian or adhere to the Bible, Genesis 1:29 “And God said, behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth”, according to the Bible it’s your god given right to grow and consume any plant on this earth, including marijuana. If you’re an environmentalist or at least care about the fate of our planet, you can save the 4 billion trees that are cut down every year to make paper. I assure you hemp paper is a fine substitute. Everyone should support legalizing marijuana and everyone here now understands why. The biggest problem is that people are more inclined to suffer the sufferable that to rectify changes in their lives. But with growing support the Cannabis sativa predicament will soon be rectified and the world as a whole will be a better place, in the words of Bob Marley, “Legalize it, don’t criticize it”.www.halfbakedgoods.net
 
That was really long... Good read though. I don't smoke it, but I definitely think it should be legal.
 
This kid and I essentially had the same speech, his is a bit more lenghty and goes into more detail but i only had 5 minutes to deliver my speech. ande of course I didnt spark in the middle of my speech either. Props to him, I did a lot of work to get statistics and all of that and it was a fun time. I know how harmless weed is and actually convinced people in my class to start smoking because they saw no harm in smoking
 
yeah, i heard that kid also used the searchbar in the middle of his speech! crazy right, well it turns out he found a thread from like two months ago, then he just bumped that thread saying "I was gonna make a thread just like this but I I used the searchbar. Thank god for that, it was a close one!" and then he resided to his cosy little cabin in Montana where he still lives today!
 
I feel that if pot was legalized, big industry would eventually take over and stuff it with carcinogens just like tobacco. You could argue that you could just grow your own, but what lazy stoner would ever grow his own weed when he could by a pack of joints at the local getty?
 
people that grow now will still grow.

after you add in tax and the fact that gorwing your own is a lot cheaper even if it wasnt taxed people that grow now will probably still grow
 
the first thing he said is that it is a repost and he found it in NSG. he was just trying to bring more attention to it
 
As long as we're posting stupidly long arguments for marijuana legalization here's something I wrote my first semester of cellege for english 101.

Reefer Madness

Since 1880, America has been at war. This is not a war against

communists, terrorists, or overseas enemies. This is a war on drugs. A

war that billions of tax payer dollars have been spent on, has jailed

millions worldwide, and has no end in sight. Furthermore, the War on

Drugs is a war that we are losing. It's a war that we have been losing

ever since it began. Today, it is being directed by John P. Walters,

America's Drug Czar. His title alone reflects his organization's power.

They operate uncomfortably far from the rules and regulations usually

placed on a government agency. Recently, one of the more controversial

drugs has been marijuana. Despite years of demonization and anti-pot

propaganda, many hail its spiritual and medical uses. In particular,

marijuana's medicinal value has been a heavily debated topic. Whether

or not it has legitimate medical worth, some say that it simply isn't a

dangerous enough drug to cause such an uproar. Is marijuana a terrible

thing, causing a vicious cycle of substance abuse, or is it a

relatively harmless drug with many legitimate uses? In order to better

understand the issue of marijuana prohibition, one must evaluate the

effects of the drug, effects of the drug laws, and its medicinal value.

One of the most important criteria one must consider is, of

course, the effects of the drug itself. Firstly, the effects on the

body must be considered. Many say that marijuana is a harmful,

addictive substance. An eye-opening report by the BBC Science &

Nature Department states that marijuana is less addictive than

amphetamines, alcohol, and tobacco. It also states that not only is

cannabis not linked to any major health or sociological problems, but

its effect on the heart may also have a similar effect to exercising at

the gym (BBC). Marijuana is simply not physically addicting. Unlike

alcohol, tobacco, and caffeine, the body develops very little physical

dependence to the drug. Although it may be psychologically addictive in

certain users, when one attempts to quit the drug their body will go

through little to no shock. Cannabis has, in the past, been associated

with lung diseases such as cancer. However, recent studies have

increasingly found no link. In fact, recent research at UCLA has shown

that the chemical THC (Marijuana's most prevalent chemical) may play a

part in killing aging cells before they can become cancerous (Kaufman).

Secondly, marijuana's effect on the mind must be examined.

Science Direct has reported that "there is little evidence…that

long-term cannabis use causes permanent cognitive impairment, nor is

there is any clear cause and effect relationship to explain the

psychosocial associations." Many of the adverse psychological effects

that marijuana has been blamed for over the years have recently been

disproven. Original studies on marijuana were consistently jaded,

biased, or funded. As a result, the "reefer madness" mind state became

increasingly widespread. Today we realize that marijuana does not cause

brain damage, nor does it trigger states of violent psychosis.

Actually, it seems it does just the opposite, often inducing a feeling

of pacifism in its user. While some detrimental mental factors do

exist, such as short term memory loss and reduced cognitive ability,

these leave the body once a user is no longer intoxicated. There is

currently very little evidence supporting the fact that long-term users

will continue to experience these effects even when sober.

Another important gauge when considering this issue is the

effect of the laws surrounding marijuana. Currently thousands of

Americans are incarcerated for the possession, use, cultivation, sale,

or distribution of Cannabis Sativa. Many are non-violent offenders, and

a large portion are simply those with ailments that marijuana eases.

Currently, the number of people arrested in the US for

marijuana-related crimes far exceeds the number of people arrested for

all violent crimes combined, including murder, rape, and robbery. Over

eight million Americans have been arrested over the past decade for

marijuana offenses, with around thirty percent of the offenders being

under nineteen years of age (NORML). This is a clear representation of

the fact that police do target marijuana users, despite officially

stating that they do not. With this in mind, it is no wonder that the

prison system is overcrowded, being filled with harmless citizens that

have in many cases committed no other crime than getting high. The

statistic that many of these offenders are under nineteen is incredibly

worrying. Having a felony charge for possession (which it is in many

states) would seriously jeopardize a young person's future. He would be

denied access to good jobs and educational establishments. This could

cause him to slip further down the slope into a life of serious crime.

Besides incarcerating a marijuana user every 40 seconds

(NORML), marijuana prohibition is costing American taxpayers billions

of dollars a year. An economic analysis by Dr. Jeffrey Miron concluded,

"Replacing marijuana prohibition with a system of taxation and

regulation similar to that used for alcoholic beverages would produce

combined savings and tax revenues of between $10 billion and $14

billion per year" (Miron). Dr. Jeffrey Miron is a respected professor

at Harvard University, and this report was backed by 530 distinguished

economists. Almost eight billion dollars a year is spent on marijuana

prohibition, which the citizens of America pay for with their taxes. Is

this really an appropriate usage of funds? Eight billion dollars is

being wasted a year, simply to stop consenting adults from consuming

marijuana. This enormous sum is not preventing any serious crimes and

is not being used to better society in any way. In truth, this money is

not even preventing marijuana usage as it intends. The existing

attitude of law enforcement towards marijuana is not one of prevention,

but rather of punishment. Proving this, US states with the strictest

marijuana policies tend to have the largest increase in marijuana use

(CLRC D7).

Finally, in order to fully evaluate the social issue of

marijuana prohibition, one must look at its medical value. This is the

most hotly disputed topic surrounding marijuana. Patients and advocates

describe it as a wonder drug, while the DEA and other government

organizations proclaim it to be an unnecessary alternative to

prescription drugs. When asked why he was pro-medical cannabis,

Joycelyn Elders, Professor of Public Health at University of Arkansas,

reasoned, "The evidence is overwhelming that marijuana can relieve

certain types of pain, nausea, vomiting and other symptoms caused by

such illnesses as multiple sclerosis, cancer and AIDS -- or by the

harsh drugs sometimes used to treat them. And it can do so with

remarkable safety. Indeed, marijuana is less toxic than many of the

drugs that physicians prescribe every day" (ProCon). Truly this

statement says it all. Marijuana can be used to treat a variety of

illnesses and all types of pain, nausea, loss of appetite, and sleeping

disorders. For many of these ailments, such as glaucoma or muscle

spasms, it is by far the safest and most effective medicine. This has

been recognized and many states have decriminalized the medical use of

marijuana. However, as it currently stands, federal DEA raids on

state-approved medical marijuana dispensaries continue. In this crusade

by federal officers to stop the spread of medical marijuana, many

underhanded tactics are being used, and many innocent patients are

being arrested for the crime of simply trying to survive. The only

advice being offered by the government is that these patients turn to

Marinol.

Marinol is a synthetic THC compound approved for used by the

FDA. One of the first things an opponent to medical marijuana will

argue is that there are legal alternatives such as Marinol. By

approving Marinol, the FDA has already admitted that THC is an

effective drug for many of the life-threatening symptoms caused by

terminal illnesses, such as cancer and AIDS. However, Marinol is more

expensive, less safe, and simply not as effective. In a 1999 report

issued by the Institute of Medicine, it was said,

Marinol…is complex and expensive because of the numerous steps

needed for purification…the onset of action is slow; peak plasma

concentrations are not attained until two to four hours after dosing.

In contrast, inhaled marijuana is rapidly absorbed....Marinol's most

common adverse events…anxiety, confusion, depersonalization, dizziness,

euphoria, dysphoria, somnolence, and thinking abnormality. (IM 202-203).

Marinol is clearly not as effective as THC extracted naturally

from a marijuana plant. The onset of its effects is slow, and the

feeling of intoxication lasts much longer. One of the arguments for

Marinol is that a plant cannot be accurately dosed. However, patients

using Marinol have quickly realized that it is itself more difficult to

properly dose than naturally occurring THC. Because of the oral

consumption method, the drug's absorption into the body is abnormal,

and only about a quarter of the dose is actually effective. On the

other hand, THC from its natural source can be easily extracted into

the form of a breath strip or effortless spray. When consumed in forms

such as these, dosage is relatively easy, and a patient could take just

enough THC to boost his appetite without even becoming intoxicated.

Marijuana is clearly a superior medicine to Marinol.

Ultimately, marijuana prohibition is a foolish policy indeed. Used

recreationally or medicinally, marijuana is a safer and more natural

alternative to legal drugs currently on the market. Certainly,

marijuana does not cause the physical and mental damage that it was

thought to in the 1930's. A system of regulation would also allow

taxation, which could provide a large source of revenue for the US

government. Furthermore, it would allow users of medical marijuana to

take their medicine without fear of arrest or ostracization. We are

wasting law enforcement resources on a harmless plant when they could

be better used to help curb violent crimes. If marijuana is

decriminalized, will America suddenly collapse into a cesspool of drug

addicts? The answer is obviously no, and statistics show that use of

the drug would actually be likely to decrease. The solution to this

drug problem is not to continue to spread lies, make unjustified

claims, or enforce harsher penalties. The solutions to the problem of

marijuana are incontestably decriminalization, regulation, and

education.

 
Well it goes back to the Amsterdam reference. This way our government will not be able to tax it and lower the potency, there will be no chemicals added *like in cigarettes to get us addicted*, but we will still be able to legally smoke marijuana. Decriminalized cannabis has lowered Amsterdams crime rate, and has not increased drug use.

Of course i have not put forth an effort to research the facts of Amsterdams decriminalized natural drugs. I am just using their city as a referance....if you would like to find out more information on where i am coming from..you can do the research.

If you actually enjoy smoking cannabis and not a water'd down, less potent form without added chemicals. Then decriminalization is the way to go.
 
i think it should be 100% legal like it was before

just like trees, roses, tomatoes, salvia...

it would be too difficult for the government to regulate it all, and i think the quality of bud would get worse.

schools could educate kids about it so they make their own decisions and blah blah blah
 
Yes, valid point...but you dont smoke any of these. Our goverment has no need to add chemicals or other substances in alcohol. With weed, you will be smoking it, and if it is being offered by major corporations like cigarettes are, they will want you to be addicted so they can make more money, therefore will add addictive substances.
 
Ya the government puts mind control drugs in our water too. They also are slowly poisoning the conservatives on eastern Montana and North Dakota with giant crop dusters that they store under the prairie.
 
Why do they have a need to get people addicted to weed? Couldn't they put something in alcohol to get peopled addicted to it? Something doesn't have to be smoked to be addicting.
 
good speech! very legit.
weed needs to be legalized and taxed. if it were legal we'd have around 15 BILLION to put into health care, or education or other areas that really need it.
 
My dad is defending this kid, he got arrested for buying marijuana

The kid and his friend went to some drug dealer that the cops were staking out.

They went to buy weed for a friend. He has cancer. 20% chance of survival. He's 6'2, 130. He can't eat, hes always throwing up, his life is hell.

When he smokes, he's asking his mom for a cheese burger. He's not in pain.

This kid went to buy marijuana for a friend who desperately needed it. Even the doctors think so. the mom of the kid with cancer is even going to testify saying how her son needed it.

but by law, this kid just may have a nice little mark on his record
 
Well i seriously cant believe i read all of that and it was amazing agreed 100%..see whenever i bring this subject up to my parents they always say "the weed of today is far more potent then the weed 30 years ago or even 15 years ago"..is this true? I need a good, and witty response to this haha..+karma for anyone who can help...

and awesome post and thread thanks.
 
decriminalization only lessens the bad weed does (#1,2, and maaaybe 3), but doesnt provide any aditional benifits like tax dollars the way legalization would. i honestly didn't notice that until your post, +K on that

that said, i would probably still rather decriminalization. weed is pretty easy for me to get right now, and prices are fairly fair (jacked up in the summer, but whatever) so the only thing i worry about is getting caught with it. the benifits i see from decriminalization cover those 3 aspects;

availability (not a problem)

price (not a problem)

greatly reduces consequence of possesing weed.

although legalization seems to provide the same benifits, i can see some downfalls as well. The main negative aspect being the obvious increase in price due to taxing. from there i can see a possible change in quality, but whether it would increase or decrease is debatable. basically i just dont want to pay any more than i allready do lol (even though i pay less than most of you americans).

in all honesty, no matter what happened (decriminalization or legalization) i would probably grow my own weed, since it would be legal...hopefully. if you do it right, growing can get you way cheaper weed, it just takes more time and effort.
 
another fun fact. it was once requiered by law in Jamestown for all farmer to grow hemp.

And also legization is way closer than we think. youll be supprised Ron Paul is doing work on congress.
 
hahaha funny story about that. i was reading today, apparently when we started fluoridating the water, people were convinced it was a communist plot.
 
As much as it pains me to say it, I think there are a bunch of consequences that are being overlooked/ignored.

I would love to puff legally, but I don't think its feasible without a number of other laws going into place.

I'll try to come back to this and read/post more in detail.
 
For the record, legalizing weed would make the price go DOWN, not up.
As soon as a good becomes legal the supply of that good goes through the roof. If it does ever become legal, then companies will start growing it and distributing it. For one, the companies will be able to produce it in such large quantities in purposely built greenhouses that they will acheive far greater efficiency than your average pot grower in his basement. Better productivity leads to lower prices.
Also, with organised business getting involved in the cultivation and distribution of weed, there will be huge competition between rival companies. Competition leads to lower prices.
With legalized cannabis being such a huge potential market, with huge potential profits to be made, companies will be looking for the competitive edge. This will be acheived through better productivity, which is acheived by innovation, through research and development. I wouldn't be surprised to see fully automated weed processing machines... again, better productivity, lower prices.
And then there's the potency gains. If you think the shit we have now is strong, you wait to see what a bunch of scientists can come up with given the motivation of a huge pay check from massive weed growing firms.
Even after you add all the government taxes and levies, there would be a huge drop in the price.
Hell, I don't see a reason why they wouldn't be able to sell 20 packs of joints next to cigarettes for exactly the same price.
If it is legalized (god i hope so) then there will be absolutely no viable reason to grow it yourself. It'd be like trying to cultivate your own tobacco. There's no way in hell you'd ever be able to compete with the likes of malboro on price or quality of bud.
 
most kids do drugs cause they think it is cool, if they legalize it smoking it wouldnt be cool anymore so they will try different illegal things
 
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