Gavajabra2
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"My lungs didn't feel fucked till I started with cigs", wow and you're saying I sound un-intelligent? The damage to your lungs is irriversable, there is no "felling normal" after you've smoked that long.
Weed cuts lung cancer tumors in half
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Gavajabra2
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Ok buddy, chill out. I never said smoking weed makes you permenately stupid, ever. I said WHILE HIGH, your reflexes, memory, and desicion making ability decress. I didn't say it makes you fucking retarded.
And saying smoking 1 joint isn't equivalent to 5 cigarettes, well...
http://www.cbc.ca/health/story/2007/07/30/marijuana-cigarettes.html?ref=rss
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,291472,00.html (It's fox news, but meh)
http://clipmarks.com/clipmark/92740AB0-1031-49FE-8A34-85785944F3F2/
http://digg.com/health/Your_favorite_wacky_tobacky_joint_hits_your_lungs_like_5_cigarettes
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20052489/
http://www.inform.com/related_content/36627295,0
And I could go on, but I don't want to spend 30 minutes posting every site.
Now, yes eating McDonald's is unhealthy, but you can eat McDonalds every now and again and still be in great shape. Smoking is a different story. Yes I have seen Supersize Me, and my response is this: He ate an extraordinary amount of McDonald's with little excersize. If you watch at the end he talks about his girlfriends "detox diet" she gave him and he came back to being healthy within a couple months. If you smoke, there is no "detox diet" to make you healthy again. You can realize this when you're older and it catchs up to you, when you wheeze heavily when you try to do anything. I understand smoking anything gives you a plethroa of diseases, like lung cancer, heart disease, emphysema, etc. I also understand eating McDonalds every week will make you obese, which also carrys a plethora of diseases with it. I'm saying in general, eating McDonalds casually can be counteracted with good exercise and if needed, medicine or surgery. When you fuck up your lungs (which you will do smoking for 10, 20, 30, 40 years) there isn't an exercise you can do, there isn't a pill you can take, there isn't a surgery you can get, you will always have bad lungs. Just for the record, I don't condone smoking alot or eating fast-food alot.
I know that athletes use drugs, I'm not an idiot. But they aren't smoking weed every day, or every week, like many people would if this drug was legal. Now, not to say they aren't damaging their lungs. Unless you're a chronic smoker, the affects of smoke won't be truly felt until 40's, 50's or even later in your life.
Ok, I'm not some schizomaniac thinking the government is out to kill me. You want to know why I think the government is accurate? Not only that they do their research and experiments, but I don't think they have a reason not to be pro-marijuana. Like I've said, they'd make tons of money on it. Call me a sucker, but maybe they understand that they could have their kids doing drugs and maybe they don't want it to be like that, ever think of it that way???
I don't give a shit what the T.V. tells me, I know that you're smoking and it's not good for your lungs, it's like cigarettes. My dad smokes 3 packs a day and he's done so since he was 20, which is 25 years of smoking. I hear him coughing, I hear him wheezing, and he does alot of physical activity. I know it's not good for you, maybe if I would enjoy feeling the high for 30 minutes.
I WOULD try it, but as it is, I'm alleric to smoke of any kind. Be it cigarette smoke, or marijuana smoke, my lungs couldn't handle it. I'm worried about dealing with all the irresponsible morons out there who do stupid shit while high, like driving. I'm a fairly liberal guy, I wouldn't really care if they jsut did it in their basement, but I know how stupid people are.
And saying smoking 1 joint isn't equivalent to 5 cigarettes, well...
http://www.cbc.ca/health/story/2007/07/30/marijuana-cigarettes.html?ref=rss
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,291472,00.html (It's fox news, but meh)
http://clipmarks.com/clipmark/92740AB0-1031-49FE-8A34-85785944F3F2/
http://digg.com/health/Your_favorite_wacky_tobacky_joint_hits_your_lungs_like_5_cigarettes
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20052489/
http://www.inform.com/related_content/36627295,0
And I could go on, but I don't want to spend 30 minutes posting every site.
Now, yes eating McDonald's is unhealthy, but you can eat McDonalds every now and again and still be in great shape. Smoking is a different story. Yes I have seen Supersize Me, and my response is this: He ate an extraordinary amount of McDonald's with little excersize. If you watch at the end he talks about his girlfriends "detox diet" she gave him and he came back to being healthy within a couple months. If you smoke, there is no "detox diet" to make you healthy again. You can realize this when you're older and it catchs up to you, when you wheeze heavily when you try to do anything. I understand smoking anything gives you a plethroa of diseases, like lung cancer, heart disease, emphysema, etc. I also understand eating McDonalds every week will make you obese, which also carrys a plethora of diseases with it. I'm saying in general, eating McDonalds casually can be counteracted with good exercise and if needed, medicine or surgery. When you fuck up your lungs (which you will do smoking for 10, 20, 30, 40 years) there isn't an exercise you can do, there isn't a pill you can take, there isn't a surgery you can get, you will always have bad lungs. Just for the record, I don't condone smoking alot or eating fast-food alot.
I know that athletes use drugs, I'm not an idiot. But they aren't smoking weed every day, or every week, like many people would if this drug was legal. Now, not to say they aren't damaging their lungs. Unless you're a chronic smoker, the affects of smoke won't be truly felt until 40's, 50's or even later in your life.
Ok, I'm not some schizomaniac thinking the government is out to kill me. You want to know why I think the government is accurate? Not only that they do their research and experiments, but I don't think they have a reason not to be pro-marijuana. Like I've said, they'd make tons of money on it. Call me a sucker, but maybe they understand that they could have their kids doing drugs and maybe they don't want it to be like that, ever think of it that way???
I don't give a shit what the T.V. tells me, I know that you're smoking and it's not good for your lungs, it's like cigarettes. My dad smokes 3 packs a day and he's done so since he was 20, which is 25 years of smoking. I hear him coughing, I hear him wheezing, and he does alot of physical activity. I know it's not good for you, maybe if I would enjoy feeling the high for 30 minutes.
I WOULD try it, but as it is, I'm alleric to smoke of any kind. Be it cigarette smoke, or marijuana smoke, my lungs couldn't handle it. I'm worried about dealing with all the irresponsible morons out there who do stupid shit while high, like driving. I'm a fairly liberal guy, I wouldn't really care if they jsut did it in their basement, but I know how stupid people are.
doritos
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Right here you clearly exhibit how little you know and how much your information is based solely on what the government tells you.
Packs come with 20 cigarettes. Not 12. No matter where you live. Always 20. What does this prove? That you don't know anything about cigarettes. Where do people who don't know anything about cigarettes get their information? Commercials and propaganda and research, most of which is either directly or indirectly supported by government research. Case in point - the ridiculous notion that one joint is equal to five cigarettes, which is true, but out of context it seems way worse than it is. The actual amount of tar and stuff you inhale is the same, but marijuana smoke differs in that it doesn't stick around in there and ruin your lungs. I'm not saying it's good for your lungs (aside from the aforementioned benefits regarding cancer) but it isn't nearly as bad as five cigarettes... and that's what the government gives you - out of context bullshit research.
That really isn't the point, though... There's no good reason to let alcohol be legal when weed isn't. Drinking makes people violent, it ruins your body, it's highly addictive (as are cigarettes, both unlike weed), it impairs you far more than weed, it can kill if used excessively via alcohol poisoning (again, unlike weed), it ruins families, careers, lives. If people can drive around a little buzzed and not get in trouble, why can't they drive around a little high? If people drink too much and drive they get a ticket. If people smoke too much and drive, they can get a ticket, too. Holy shit. Mind-blowing, eh?
Packs come with 20 cigarettes. Not 12. No matter where you live. Always 20. What does this prove? That you don't know anything about cigarettes. Where do people who don't know anything about cigarettes get their information? Commercials and propaganda and research, most of which is either directly or indirectly supported by government research. Case in point - the ridiculous notion that one joint is equal to five cigarettes, which is true, but out of context it seems way worse than it is. The actual amount of tar and stuff you inhale is the same, but marijuana smoke differs in that it doesn't stick around in there and ruin your lungs. I'm not saying it's good for your lungs (aside from the aforementioned benefits regarding cancer) but it isn't nearly as bad as five cigarettes... and that's what the government gives you - out of context bullshit research.
That really isn't the point, though... There's no good reason to let alcohol be legal when weed isn't. Drinking makes people violent, it ruins your body, it's highly addictive (as are cigarettes, both unlike weed), it impairs you far more than weed, it can kill if used excessively via alcohol poisoning (again, unlike weed), it ruins families, careers, lives. If people can drive around a little buzzed and not get in trouble, why can't they drive around a little high? If people drink too much and drive they get a ticket. If people smoke too much and drive, they can get a ticket, too. Holy shit. Mind-blowing, eh?
doritos
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And here you're reasonable. Sorry for tearing you out above. Government has a lot of reasons to be anti-marijuana though, mostly because there's a social stigma against it and anyone who appears to be supporting weed runs a huge risk with their political career. Which is why government research is bullshit. Other than that though, word.
PutACork_init
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stupid shouldn't mate
Gavajabra2
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I made a mistake, sorry. I'm trying to rebuttle 20 people in this thread by myself, and I unfortunately made the mistake of not double-checking my facts.
No, all packs don't contain 20 cigarettes. There is packs with 12, there is packs with 20, the fact of the matter is saying that we don't know what "1 pack" means, even still it's wrong information (which I won't mistake again).
I'm tired of this government propoganda bullshit. Explain something to me... first, 1 reason why the government wouldn't sell marijuana? second, Why did the government suddenly decide smoking cigarettes was dangerous, and therefore has stopped commercials advertising cigarettes, and has tried to stop their production all together? Third, I will trust a government funded scientist who's job it is to get the facts not on everything they do, but definantly on this. I trust that they know what they're doing then somebody who I'd guess is no older then 25 years old, unless you're coming out to tell me that you have done 1st-hand research on the affects of marijuana?
Here's a newsflash, blowing under a .08 BAC level isn't 'a little buzzed' unless your an anorexic 10 year old. People have said .08 is too low, and they truly believe that they are ok to drive. HERE'S THE KICKER, if you can wrap your little pea-sized mind around a history book, you'd know that alchohol infact WAS illegalized! Prohibition, ever heard of it? It failed horribly, resulting in the 21st amendment. The government makes tons of money on alchohol and cigarettes, and my final question of this response is, why wouldn't they try to do the same for marijuana?
No, all packs don't contain 20 cigarettes. There is packs with 12, there is packs with 20, the fact of the matter is saying that we don't know what "1 pack" means, even still it's wrong information (which I won't mistake again).
I'm tired of this government propoganda bullshit. Explain something to me... first, 1 reason why the government wouldn't sell marijuana? second, Why did the government suddenly decide smoking cigarettes was dangerous, and therefore has stopped commercials advertising cigarettes, and has tried to stop their production all together? Third, I will trust a government funded scientist who's job it is to get the facts not on everything they do, but definantly on this. I trust that they know what they're doing then somebody who I'd guess is no older then 25 years old, unless you're coming out to tell me that you have done 1st-hand research on the affects of marijuana?
Here's a newsflash, blowing under a .08 BAC level isn't 'a little buzzed' unless your an anorexic 10 year old. People have said .08 is too low, and they truly believe that they are ok to drive. HERE'S THE KICKER, if you can wrap your little pea-sized mind around a history book, you'd know that alchohol infact WAS illegalized! Prohibition, ever heard of it? It failed horribly, resulting in the 21st amendment. The government makes tons of money on alchohol and cigarettes, and my final question of this response is, why wouldn't they try to do the same for marijuana?
doritos
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I won't trust the scientist whose job it is to find bullshit facts for a bullshit campaign to advance someone's political career actually, but perhaps that's just me. Either way, the answer to your big question you keep touting over everyone like it disproves everyone else and immediately makes you right, is in the post below the one you quoted.
Gavajabra2
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Ok, what makes these politicians afraid of being pro-marijuana? Or what makes the average american against it? Because the big bad government says it is? Well than why does the government say its bad? Too many questions to answer just to excuse smoking weed, when we know that inhaling smoke in your body is dangerous, and being high doing an every day activity like driving is dangerous. Oh, and I'd like to add, politicians career's have nothing to do with it. These things like DEA are paid to find the facts and I see absolutely no reason why they would get paid to find facts, just to cover them up and say weed is bad for you?
First of all, you did say all those things.
second, you're denying that Tanner smokes a lot?
Just like eating fast food, the effects of THC naturally wear off. And I am comparing both as if used in moderation.
I don't know why the Government wouldn't legalize Weed. Back when alcohol was illegal, there were people going "Why wouldn't the government legalize it? They could make so much money off it." And as we both know, it was eventually legalized.
Im done debating in a chat rooms. Stop being so ignorant. If you smoked a bunch and experianced all sorts of the fucked up things you say it does to you, then your stance on the subject would be a little more reputable.
second, you're denying that Tanner smokes a lot?
Just like eating fast food, the effects of THC naturally wear off. And I am comparing both as if used in moderation.
I don't know why the Government wouldn't legalize Weed. Back when alcohol was illegal, there were people going "Why wouldn't the government legalize it? They could make so much money off it." And as we both know, it was eventually legalized.
Im done debating in a chat rooms. Stop being so ignorant. If you smoked a bunch and experianced all sorts of the fucked up things you say it does to you, then your stance on the subject would be a little more reputable.
13stripes
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hahhahahaha anyone who believes this is retarded, just like normal ciggarettes weed is a carsinagin, therefore it causes canser. the only way it may reduce tumors is if it is another kind of cancer that doenst form tumers its just spreads freely through the body
dumb ass kids and your "scientists" saying that weed is good for you
dumb ass kids and your "scientists" saying that weed is good for you
Gavajabra2
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Ok, find the post where I said that smoking weed makes you permenantly stupid, please.
I'm not denying that Tanner smokes alot??? Like I said, the affects of smoking take time to show up.
I know the effects of THC wear off, but when you're being affected by THC while driving or doing something where you could easily kill somebody, that's what I'm talking about. When I talk about fast food, I'm associating it with the damage it causes to your lungs, not to the affects it has on your brain.
Alchohol was legal, than illegal, and people being so outraged by the government making it illegal, forced them to legalize it again. It didn't start out illegal, and people weren't wondering why they wouldn't legalize it to make money, so your whole point is invalid from the start. Prohibition actually proves my point that the government wants whats best for us because they are people, just like us, however it failed because the populations desire for it overpowered them.
And you'd know that 1 hit off of a joint would put me in the hospital as I'm highly alleric to smoke and have asthma, but you're too busy to read my full posts.
I'm not denying that Tanner smokes alot??? Like I said, the affects of smoking take time to show up.
I know the effects of THC wear off, but when you're being affected by THC while driving or doing something where you could easily kill somebody, that's what I'm talking about. When I talk about fast food, I'm associating it with the damage it causes to your lungs, not to the affects it has on your brain.
Alchohol was legal, than illegal, and people being so outraged by the government making it illegal, forced them to legalize it again. It didn't start out illegal, and people weren't wondering why they wouldn't legalize it to make money, so your whole point is invalid from the start. Prohibition actually proves my point that the government wants whats best for us because they are people, just like us, however it failed because the populations desire for it overpowered them.
And you'd know that 1 hit off of a joint would put me in the hospital as I'm highly alleric to smoke and have asthma, but you're too busy to read my full posts.
You said smoking makes you end up like Timmy from South Park. But Im not here to nitpick.
I know alcohol started out legal, then it was illegal, and now its legal again. Perhaps the perspective of pro-weed people the government has isnt as positive as the perspective of the pro-alcohol people. There are people who are perfectly fine who drink alcohol. What the government fails to realize is that its the same with weed. Hell, the governer of California used to light up a lot.
I know you can't smoke it because of your lungs, and because of that you will never really know what you are talking about when it comes to the subject. Im not trying to be a dick, Im just saying you dont know more about weed simply because you googled "marijuana". People on here who smoke it regularly know more about naturally know more about it, and I'm suprised you shoot down their knowledge.
I know alcohol started out legal, then it was illegal, and now its legal again. Perhaps the perspective of pro-weed people the government has isnt as positive as the perspective of the pro-alcohol people. There are people who are perfectly fine who drink alcohol. What the government fails to realize is that its the same with weed. Hell, the governer of California used to light up a lot.
I know you can't smoke it because of your lungs, and because of that you will never really know what you are talking about when it comes to the subject. Im not trying to be a dick, Im just saying you dont know more about weed simply because you googled "marijuana". People on here who smoke it regularly know more about naturally know more about it, and I'm suprised you shoot down their knowledge.
Gavajabra2
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I think you have me confused with somebody else, I never said you'd end up like Timmy. Of course there are people who are fine drinking now and again, but there are also alot of alchoholics, too. I've said it before, if I knew that everyone who smoked weed would stay in their house and do it, that's fine, but there is too many irresponsible morons out there. I don't think there is many politicians who haven't tried smoking weed atleast once.
Just because I haven't tried cocaine doesn't mean I can't understand the fact that it's bad for me. Marijuana is breathing in smoke, which temporarily alters your state of mind, and the symptoms can lead to things like car accidents. The only thing smoking weed for me would do is feel a high which probably is amazing but it would cut years off of my life from lung diseases and heart diseases, and maybe if it was legal one day I could be killed by someone who was high while driving. That is all hypothetical but it could happen and if legalized WILL happen alot more then it does now. People on this site know nothing more then me except what it feels like to be high, considering the affects vary with different people.
Just because I haven't tried cocaine doesn't mean I can't understand the fact that it's bad for me. Marijuana is breathing in smoke, which temporarily alters your state of mind, and the symptoms can lead to things like car accidents. The only thing smoking weed for me would do is feel a high which probably is amazing but it would cut years off of my life from lung diseases and heart diseases, and maybe if it was legal one day I could be killed by someone who was high while driving. That is all hypothetical but it could happen and if legalized WILL happen alot more then it does now. People on this site know nothing more then me except what it feels like to be high, considering the affects vary with different people.
when you're high you arent as out of control as being drunk. It calms you down, or makes you feel really good if you smoke a lot. It will never make you stumble around and be rowdy. I know a ton of people who drive high and they are better drivers when high because they drive slower and are much more alert. I dont see why smokers should have to stay in their house. I understand why drinking in public is illegal.
and if they did legalize weed, they most likely would make it illegal to drive while high.
and for the last time, it DOES NOT CAUSE LUNG AND HEART DISEASE. It may temporarily make your lungs weaker if you smoke a ton, but at less than half the speed and intensity as cigarettes would.
and if they did legalize weed, they most likely would make it illegal to drive while high.
and for the last time, it DOES NOT CAUSE LUNG AND HEART DISEASE. It may temporarily make your lungs weaker if you smoke a ton, but at less than half the speed and intensity as cigarettes would.
mizzike
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Things i've over heard? What are you talking about? You mean things i've read?
http://www.cbc.ca/health/story/2007/07/30/marijuana-cigarettes.html?ref=rss
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,291472,00.html
http://clipmarks.com/clipmark/92740AB0-1031-49FE-8A34-85785944F3F2/
http://digg.com/health/Your_favorite_wacky_tobacky_joint_hits_your_lungs_like_5_cigarettes
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20052489/
http://www.inform.com/related_content/36627295,0
It seems to me that all of these sources accept and agree with that one particular study. I dunno but to me that is more "legit" than your teenage personal experience.
http://www.cbc.ca/health/story/2007/07/30/marijuana-cigarettes.html?ref=rss
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,291472,00.html
http://clipmarks.com/clipmark/92740AB0-1031-49FE-8A34-85785944F3F2/
http://digg.com/health/Your_favorite_wacky_tobacky_joint_hits_your_lungs_like_5_cigarettes
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20052489/
http://www.inform.com/related_content/36627295,0
It seems to me that all of these sources accept and agree with that one particular study. I dunno but to me that is more "legit" than your teenage personal experience.
comeatmebro
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im going to have to say i mostly agree with gavajabra2 on this subject. and to start shit off, yes ive smoked weed, i used to some a lot of weed. now lets see here...
from my personal experiences, yeah when i was smoking i was out of breath from running up a fucking hill. when i quit i had a lot more endurance, so it doesnt permanently mess you up like that. but from what he is saying about car accidents i definitely agree. your reaction time is slowed greatly and everyone who has smoked knows that. responsible people might drive slow and cautious, but there are a lot if irresponsible people who will drive "normal" and cause accidents because they cant react quick enough. everyone knows smoking is bad for you no matter what. smoking weed does some type of long term damage to you irreguardless of what you people say. it might not too bad for you health wise, but i think gavajabra2's message hes kinda trying to say is that while impaired by marijuana it is dangerous to not only you, but others.
from my personal experiences, yeah when i was smoking i was out of breath from running up a fucking hill. when i quit i had a lot more endurance, so it doesnt permanently mess you up like that. but from what he is saying about car accidents i definitely agree. your reaction time is slowed greatly and everyone who has smoked knows that. responsible people might drive slow and cautious, but there are a lot if irresponsible people who will drive "normal" and cause accidents because they cant react quick enough. everyone knows smoking is bad for you no matter what. smoking weed does some type of long term damage to you irreguardless of what you people say. it might not too bad for you health wise, but i think gavajabra2's message hes kinda trying to say is that while impaired by marijuana it is dangerous to not only you, but others.
comeatmebro
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uh okay?
bermbuster49
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nah they didnt acually do anything scientific they just wanted an excuse to buy all the weed they wanted
comeatmebro
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how do you know?
comeatmebro
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oh and that reminds me of that guy in not another teen movie always trying to start the slow clap and does it at the wrong time. then that fucking like half dead kid starts it at the right time in the airport and he lays his ass out. that is funny.
skogenjake
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i read a few pages...gavabraja isnt a massive tool, contrary to prior belief. hes probablly right actually.
i smoke every once in awhile, because i like doing it. i drink every once in awhile (actually i do this more), because i like doing it.
both are bad for you. yes, weed is bad. look at it this way- you are breathing in and holding in your lungs smoke that is saturated with chemicals. it doesnt make a difference if you believe these chemicals are beneficial (which is definently disputed as well), because they are still chemicals that are going into your lungs...with smoke. yeah, that byproduct of that fire, good old smoke...in your lungs. you cant tell me this is healthy for you on the whole. its not healthy. that is why you cough. fresh fruit doesnt make you cough. either does veggies or vitamens. dont tell me its good for you. that is simply wrong.
lay off him. he doesnt smoke. thats cool. if he wants to try it, he will. which would also be just fine with me. people make their own decisions about stuff. stop personally attacking him.
you have to realize that this is drugs here. i dont have anxiety. i dont have severe back problems or glacucoma. i am not from california. and this is not legal for me to be doing. for a reason. you are making a choice to smoke.
bottom line:it is a harmful substance. simply accept that. dont try to justify it.
i smoke every once in awhile, because i like doing it. i drink every once in awhile (actually i do this more), because i like doing it.
both are bad for you. yes, weed is bad. look at it this way- you are breathing in and holding in your lungs smoke that is saturated with chemicals. it doesnt make a difference if you believe these chemicals are beneficial (which is definently disputed as well), because they are still chemicals that are going into your lungs...with smoke. yeah, that byproduct of that fire, good old smoke...in your lungs. you cant tell me this is healthy for you on the whole. its not healthy. that is why you cough. fresh fruit doesnt make you cough. either does veggies or vitamens. dont tell me its good for you. that is simply wrong.
lay off him. he doesnt smoke. thats cool. if he wants to try it, he will. which would also be just fine with me. people make their own decisions about stuff. stop personally attacking him.
you have to realize that this is drugs here. i dont have anxiety. i dont have severe back problems or glacucoma. i am not from california. and this is not legal for me to be doing. for a reason. you are making a choice to smoke.
bottom line:it is a harmful substance. simply accept that. dont try to justify it.
MattMcGinnis
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you must have been the star student in your 7th grade health class
MattMcGinnis
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oh wow, i didnt realize this was such a long thread, haha shittttt
Gavajabra2
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This is getting idiotic, I'm tired of saying it over and over again. The RESEARCH that is done has yielded the result that side affects CAN BE (Notice, CAN, as in DIFFERENT affects for DIFFERENT PEOPLE) a problem driving and doing other activities. Also, one side affect can be PARANOIA, not so calm when you're paranoid, eh?
The last paragraph cracks me up. "It may temporarily make your lungs weaker if you smoke a ton". Not even going to answer back to that statement, I'll let NS realize what a dumbass you are.
The last paragraph cracks me up. "It may temporarily make your lungs weaker if you smoke a ton". Not even going to answer back to that statement, I'll let NS realize what a dumbass you are.
Gavajabra2
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Wow, 6 fuckin' pages of endless attacks on me and finally people are beginning to step in and realize I'm not an ignorant tool
Gavajabra2
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5*
Gavajabra2
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WEED DOES NOT MAKE YOU STUPID, GIVE YOU LUNG CANCER, MAKE YOU GET INTO CAR CRASHES, AND NOT SMOKING IT DOESNT MEAN YOU KNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT IT
GAME OVER
You've already ruined your opprotunity of being an intelligent participant in this thread.
GAME OVER
You've already ruined your opprotunity of being an intelligent participant in this thread.
unchyll
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...... what the fuck do i have to prove on a skiing site forum. Seriously, no one is on your side. How about you brighten up a little bit and actualy do some research on how different all the information about weed is on the internet. Even all the FDA approved sites are flaunty as fuck and fall over themselfs. If half the bullshit you've said is true i would be dead today.
Gavajabra2
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When you read this entire thread, (which might require a couple re-fills of Ritalin) then you can talk to me. I'll agree with you and say alot of the weed info on the internet is faulty, but then again I could find websites on the internet claiming September 11th was planned by aliens from outer space. The trick is to weed out the stupid shit and get the good information, not from Wikipedia or www.marijuana.com. If half the bullshit I've said today is true, then when you're 60 you're going to be breathing out of a hole in your fucking throat.
unchyll
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my dad has been smoking weed since he was in 7th grade, still smoking today(his stash is sittin in his truck right now). He owns a landscpaing business and has 20 guys under his call. I really dont think some one thats smoked for that long would be able to go out and run a landscaping business nor be able to breathe if your true. I smoked a half ounce of weed in 3 days for 6 months straight with friends when i was dealing ATLEAST, been smoking for the past 3 years soon to be 4 in november almost everynight to help me get to bed. Ive never coughed up blood or any of that fucked up shit and that little Ritalin blow is pretty funny because half of the resources you got your anti weed info on would think that ritalin is compltely harmless even tho it is 1 step down from amphetamines, adderall is actualy speed. I really doubt you'll be able to find anything bad about adderall on a government based site. It is just speed in time release that can easily be crushed and snorted or sold on the street.
chapz
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ok look guys, i dont want to be involved with this discuaaiont hat much but
first of all, when you guys are looking on a governement site, or any popular news site, let us not forget that the governement and the media is fucked up. personally, i dont think weed is bad for your lungs, compared to cigarettes that have over 4000 chemicals in each rig. the media makes weed much worse than it is. to back up someone who mentioned weed while driving isnt bad, i agree. ive drove with friends who were blazed off their minds, and sure i was worried. but they knew to be cautious and drove really well. getting back to the government sites, what do you think would happen if they wrote, "weed isnt bad for you, it has no permanent effect"(which i find is trhe truth", everyone would start smoking it and ask why is it illegal if its harmless, so the sites lie in my oppinion. like slandis, i know of many people over 40 who have smoked weed all their lives, theyre still perfectly normal and dont have any lung or heart problems. so like tanaka said, whats better off? real life experiences, or just some facts taken from websites.
now dont start flaming me, but my opinion is that weed might kill brain cells, but what does it matter, if you smell a permanent marker, it kills brain cells as well. but weed doesnt cause car crashes and isnt bad for your lungs(if you do it periodically) or if you stop, it heals
first of all, when you guys are looking on a governement site, or any popular news site, let us not forget that the governement and the media is fucked up. personally, i dont think weed is bad for your lungs, compared to cigarettes that have over 4000 chemicals in each rig. the media makes weed much worse than it is. to back up someone who mentioned weed while driving isnt bad, i agree. ive drove with friends who were blazed off their minds, and sure i was worried. but they knew to be cautious and drove really well. getting back to the government sites, what do you think would happen if they wrote, "weed isnt bad for you, it has no permanent effect"(which i find is trhe truth", everyone would start smoking it and ask why is it illegal if its harmless, so the sites lie in my oppinion. like slandis, i know of many people over 40 who have smoked weed all their lives, theyre still perfectly normal and dont have any lung or heart problems. so like tanaka said, whats better off? real life experiences, or just some facts taken from websites.
now dont start flaming me, but my opinion is that weed might kill brain cells, but what does it matter, if you smell a permanent marker, it kills brain cells as well. but weed doesnt cause car crashes and isnt bad for your lungs(if you do it periodically) or if you stop, it heals
Gavajabra2
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MY Dad has been smoking since he was 10 and atleast 2 packs everyday for 25 years since he was 20. Like I've said, again, if you do alot of physical activity sure it'll take longer for the affects to kick in, but they will kick in. My dad can breathe, but he has a mean cough, which is the result of smoking cigarettes. Let's say... smoking 4 joints is 1 pack(20) of cigarttes, I doubt your dad was smoking 8 joints a day (2 packs) of weed a day. Now understand this, Weed is an illegal drug, therefore you don't light up weed any time you want. If weed WAS legal, then sure 8 joints a day would seem fine, and it'd be just as bad as smoking cigarettes with the added risk of getting someone killed being high. Saying you're a drug dealer just adds to the negative image weed smokers bring upon themselves, so good job their, buddy. Now, take your head out of your ass and read my thread, as I restate YET AGAIN, it takes TIME (YEARS, MANY YEARS) of smoking before it catchs up to you, and judging by your mere stupidity you don't sound like you're in your 50's.
Adderal is an amphetamines, and if it was like speed do you think it'd be a good idea to give it to kids with ADD? No. People do anything to get high, including drinking Nyquil which is a seemingly harmless drug.
Adderal is an amphetamines, and if it was like speed do you think it'd be a good idea to give it to kids with ADD? No. People do anything to get high, including drinking Nyquil which is a seemingly harmless drug.
Gavajabra2
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Dude, I've posted it time and time again, the Government has no reason not to be pro-marijuana, except for the fact THEY THINK IT's BAD FOR YOU. Government officials, and associations funded by the government are REAL PEOPLE, they aren't fucking robots who are put on this earth to control everything you do for no particular reason. Drill it in your brain. I agree, smoking cigarettes is worse than smoking weed when it comes from the perspective of disease, HOWEVER, smoking cigarettes doesn't mess with your head like weed does. Weed is like a toned down version of cigarettes with the possibilty of mass increase of DUI of weed.
Listen, smoking Marijuana OBVIOUSLY messes you up enough to the point of being illegalized, it's just common fucking sense. If Weed is illegal, then why aren't cigarettes? No fucking answer to that question besides Weed fucks with your head. I've said earlier unless they smoke 8 joints a day(which would become liklier if it was legal) then you wouldn't notice much in your 40's. I don't buy this real life experience bullshit, you people will say anything to justify weed just like a fat person would to justify eating fast food every day.
Smoking weed is bad for your lungs, it certainly isn't good for them. I understand if you only do it every so often, you won't really notice it until very late in your life (or earlier if you smoke cigarettes too), but legalization would make smoking alot of marijuana each day a common practice. You're lungs don't heal themselves after the tar and smoke fill them. I don't think you can argue that somebody who smokes weed, and is experiencing the affects of weed (reaction time, etc.) won't be a riskier person to have on the roads.
The facts I choose from websites are valid facts from credible resources.
Listen, smoking Marijuana OBVIOUSLY messes you up enough to the point of being illegalized, it's just common fucking sense. If Weed is illegal, then why aren't cigarettes? No fucking answer to that question besides Weed fucks with your head. I've said earlier unless they smoke 8 joints a day(which would become liklier if it was legal) then you wouldn't notice much in your 40's. I don't buy this real life experience bullshit, you people will say anything to justify weed just like a fat person would to justify eating fast food every day.
Smoking weed is bad for your lungs, it certainly isn't good for them. I understand if you only do it every so often, you won't really notice it until very late in your life (or earlier if you smoke cigarettes too), but legalization would make smoking alot of marijuana each day a common practice. You're lungs don't heal themselves after the tar and smoke fill them. I don't think you can argue that somebody who smokes weed, and is experiencing the affects of weed (reaction time, etc.) won't be a riskier person to have on the roads.
The facts I choose from websites are valid facts from credible resources.