Weed culture in skiing

Honestly, something I didn’t notice many If anyone els mention I don’t really like smoking while skiing especially not heavily. However, after having multiple knee injuries and broken bones nothing at all makes my body aches relax quite the way relaxing with a sheesh after a long day of skiing does. It’s not a requirement by any means but if I have it or it’s offered I couldn’t turn it down. Not only because it’s an enjoyable experience especially with the homies but even more so just because it allows me to fall asleep easier and walk much more comfortably the next day. I’m in my early 20s and abuse my body pretty regularly through the year with skiing and motocross and I really dislike taking medication especially pain killers when at all possible so this can almost be seen as the safest and healthiest way to keep me moving smoothly at times. However, I definitely wouldn’t recommend anyone under 18 or even 20 to pick up this habit as it is definitely detrimental to your health and bank account to some measurable extent.
 
None of yall ssmoke that ZaZa like I do, bunch of pussy 1 rip and past out mfers. I toke the bong like 15 times a day and have no mental sideeffects I'm 14 years old too, if you think that reefer is a problem ur delusional and blatantly wrong. I'm cookin green 24 fucking 7 on you Pboys. Bunch of rookie smokers I could probably out smoke all of yall.
 
It’s definitely influenced me to some extent. I didn’t start smoking till late junior year of high school but it was always around me on hill, since 13. I started to smoke more senior year and haven’t slowed much since keeping a steady pace. I smoked because it’s fucking nice but always feel the need to smoke more on hill. Idk if I link the two positives together too well or what but I feel knowing that homies I appreciate in skiing are smoking around me makes it feel normal. There’s a crazy presence of weed and influence in freeskiing for sure.
 
I smoke. You think weed culture is intertwined??? What about alcohol? Not y’all just don’t care since it’s so socially acceptable? Mixing a physically demanding sport with inebriation is a great idea and is probably why people run into trees.
 
14385748:WyattLoney said:
I smoke. You think weed culture is intertwined??? What about alcohol? Not y’all just don’t care since it’s so socially acceptable? Mixing a physically demanding sport with inebriation is a great idea and is probably why people run into trees.

Now this is what we should really be talking about. Obviously, everyone can have their own opinion on weed in the ski industry, that is fine. But we can’t forget to talk about how alcohol is pushed on people in every facet of life, including the ski industry. Alcohol is ruining way more lives than weed but it is federally legal so it is not questioned. It is still a drug and probably the most abused drug in the world. Also abuse of alcohol is probably worse for you health wise than abuse of weed.
 
14385760:Jpkelter said:
Now this is what we should really be talking about. Obviously, everyone can have their own opinion on weed in the ski industry, that is fine. But we can’t forget to talk about how alcohol is pushed on people in every facet of life, including the ski industry. Alcohol is ruining way more lives than weed but it is federally legal so it is not questioned. It is still a drug and probably the most abused drug in the world. Also abuse of alcohol is probably worse for you health wise than abuse of weed.

Cigarettes as well. Both those industries are nefarious with their advertisements targeting young people. I'd cut small craft breweries slack though, they're just making something they're genuinely interested in and not trying to profit off of people's self destruction.

I don't think its at all fair to say that THIS substance is what we should be talking about over some other substance though. I tend to agree, alcohol is generally more destructive, definitely more physically destructive. But all forms of drug dependency are destructive and I don't think its fair to say "oh alcohol is worse than weed, weed isn't a real problem like alcohol." Or conversely, "Oh heroin is fucking awful this is what we need to be talking about, alcohol is bad sure but we really need to be focusing on heroin." See what I mean?

Also, the same thing is happening to weed with it being legalized. It's not being viewed as taboo, just like alcohol is, and its use is generally accepted at least among my generation. So I'd say your argument of the dangers of acceptability holds just as much truth for weed at this point in time.

All drugs are different and they all have different ramifications so they shouldn't just be generalized and treated the same way. But drug dependency should be treated with the same level of concern regardless of what the substance is.

**This post was edited on Jan 25th 2022 at 8:39:15am
 
Dude likes weed.

14385637:DeadB said:
None of yall ssmoke that ZaZa like I do, bunch of pussy 1 rip and past out mfers. I toke the bong like 15 times a day and have no mental sideeffects I'm 14 years old too, if you think that reefer is a problem ur delusional and blatantly wrong. I'm cookin green 24 fucking 7 on you Pboys. Bunch of rookie smokers I could probably out smoke all of yall.
 
Started at 15 after football practice.

Now 66.

Have I forgotten?

Yes

Life is a choice almost everyday/ minute... whether it's weed, pay that bill ahead of time or late, ski or stay home and do chores, charge that flight and travel......

.... point is one does not usually skip the chore every time, does not travel every time, does not pay ahead every time.... so why smoke every time?

Should be a conscious choice, not a auto pilot thing

Don't smoke inferior product, save for the best

Have a reason....buddy in town, new route, new mountain...

And it's always okay to say no.
 
14385776:Abomber22 said:
Started at 15 after football practice.

Now 66.

Have I forgotten?

Yes

Life is a choice almost everyday/ minute... whether it's weed, pay that bill ahead of time or late, ski or stay home and do chores, charge that flight and travel......

.... point is one does not usually skip the chore every time, does not travel every time, does not pay ahead every time.... so why smoke every time?

Should be a conscious choice, not a auto pilot thing

Don't smoke inferior product, save for the best

Have a reason....buddy in town, new route, new mountain...

And it's always okay to say no.

beast
 
14385516:switchlip2 said:
I was high 24/7 and smoking pretty much twice a day for almost a year and quit and it was the worst experience of my life. Weed addiction is real and don’t let anyone else tell you different

Hahaha you smoking some laced weed dude
 
14385748:WyattLoney said:
I smoke. You think weed culture is intertwined??? What about alcohol? Not y’all just don’t care since it’s so socially acceptable? Mixing a physically demanding sport with inebriation is a great idea and is probably why people run into trees.

I quit drinking a little over a year ago and once you are on the outside of drinking culture it is crazy how omnipresent it is and how places like ski resorts are quietly shouting at you to get fucking wasted all of the time. It's so much more dangerous than weed and people can do really shitty things when they're drunk. All of the things I legitimately regret doing I did wasted and there isn't a single thing that I really regret in life that I did sober or even baked. So it's kinda wild that ski areas aggressively encourage day drinking and binge drinking and people are just like "yeah that's normal"
 
14386053:hi_vis360 said:
I quit drinking a little over a year ago and once you are on the outside of drinking culture it is crazy how omnipresent it is and how places like ski resorts are quietly shouting at you to get fucking wasted all of the time. It's so much more dangerous than weed and people can do really shitty things when they're drunk. All of the things I legitimately regret doing I did wasted and there isn't a single thing that I really regret in life that I did sober or even baked. So it's kinda wild that ski areas aggressively encourage day drinking and binge drinking and people are just like "yeah that's normal"

LOL so what ur saying is that you are a pussy that can't handle a lil buzz? Me and the homies would make u look so pathetic and weak at a tail gate party. We will be crushing beers pounding them back and just chest slapping eachother while you sit in a corner with ur vintage handycam pointed at the ground, filming some ants.
 
14386060:DeadB said:
LOL so what ur saying is that you are a pussy that can't handle a lil buzz? Me and the homies would make u look so pathetic and weak at a tail gate party. We will be crushing beers pounding them back and just chest slapping eachother while you sit in a corner with ur vintage handycam pointed at the ground, filming some ants.

Yeah I had a legit drinking problem and now I'm a lot happier that I don't drink anymore, thanks for the encouragement!
 
14386061:hi_vis360 said:
Yeah I had a legit drinking problem and now I'm a lot happier that I don't drink anymore, thanks for the encouragement!

The beer wasn't the problem u were. So stop blaming alchohol on all ur probnlems and just accept that ur a beta that cant handel the buzz.
 
14385776:Abomber22 said:
Started at 15 after football practice.

Now 66.

Have I forgotten?

Yes

Life is a choice almost everyday/ minute... whether it's weed, pay that bill ahead of time or late, ski or stay home and do chores, charge that flight and travel......

.... point is one does not usually skip the chore every time, does not travel every time, does not pay ahead every time.... so why smoke every time?

Should be a conscious choice, not a auto pilot thing

Don't smoke inferior product, save for the best

Have a reason....buddy in town, new route, new mountain...

And it's always okay to say no.

Just a warning for all yall tokers out there that this is what weed does to ur mind, the ammount of braincell losage is very serious and dangerous. Overtime, do you guys wanna grow up and become Abomber? idk, be careful.

You'll start talking in cryptic sililoquys.
 
14386061:hi_vis360 said:
Yeah I had a legit drinking problem and now I'm a lot happier that I don't drink anymore, thanks for the encouragement!

You’re a champ and it’s mad inspiring to hear you’re feeling great now. All love from here.

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14386053:hi_vis360 said:
I quit drinking a little over a year ago and once you are on the outside of drinking culture it is crazy how omnipresent it is and how places like ski resorts are quietly shouting at you to get fucking wasted all of the time. It's so much more dangerous than weed and people can do really shitty things when they're drunk. All of the things I legitimately regret doing I did wasted and there isn't a single thing that I really regret in life that I did sober or even baked. So it's kinda wild that ski areas aggressively encourage day drinking and binge drinking and people are just like "yeah that's normal"

Big ups for getting past the year mark that’s huge man.. I quit a year and 8 months ago and it’s been worth it asf. The second year can be hard, life will test you, but if you’ve come this far you might as well keep on truckin.

I do still blaze but I have been cutting back for sure, strictly after work and on my days off. Don’t like to ski super stoned either. Drinking is for sure the worse of the two evils but make no mistake pot has a lot of negative side effects nobody acknowledges.. makes you ruminate on shit, can make anxiety worse, I have also for sure been depressed and never taken meds but used weed to self medicate and I would say the argument it’s a solid natural alternative to antidepressants needs more research... so I guess I’ve been guinea pigging that since I was about 14 and truth be told I wish I waited until my brain was fully developed before I started a daily habit. I think I’m starting to make peace w the idea of one day quitting weed but right now at age 26 it’s something I still get a kick out of.
 
14385322:Coleg55 said:
There’s a lower lethal limit of caffeine vs THC, and people have died from too much caffeine.

So I took a gander at this statement since I learned recently that caffeine has a much higher lethal dose than expected and I got to admit, I was surprised.

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So quite funny to say you're wrong, lmao.

Also anyone reading, your brain matures by 25 so if you really wanna avoid any permanent deficits then wait til 25. Although that's not entirely practical for most people so I vote at least 18, preferably 21.
 
14385761:700billion said:
All drugs are different and they all have different ramifications so they shouldn't just be generalized and treated the same way. But drug dependency should be treated with the same level of concern regardless of what the substance is.

Threads on threads on threads. Spot on man. I smoke weed almost every day after work but I'm at least not in denial about its negative effects on the body. It definitely can cause mental and physical addiction and does have withdrawal- fact. I started my chronic use late enough that my memory deficits and IQ aren't impacted like those who start as teens. My coworkers would be shocked to say the least if they found out. Just because weed is easier than most drugs to go cold turkey, doesn't mean it isn't addictive. Also just because it's less harmful (overall) than ethanol, doesn't mean it isn't harmful. Too many people see it as a benign drug. It's really interesting reading r/trees and seeing all the people scraping by for that last hit, smoking carpet weed, reclaim, etc. Or people in denial about their habits, smoking metric tons of weed, blowing entire paychecks on bud. Like bro that's not an affordable lifestyle. Then you got people in denial about their use even when the doctor says yo you have chs or yo this pneumothorax, yeah that was from your bong rip bro. But they ignore and carry on. Growing weed is super cool though.

14386053:hi_vis360 said:
I quit drinking a little over a year ago and once you are on the outside of drinking culture it is crazy how omnipresent it is and how places like ski resorts are quietly shouting at you to get fucking wasted all of the time. It's so much more dangerous than weed and people can do really shitty things when they're drunk. All of the things I legitimately regret doing I did wasted and there isn't a single thing that I really regret in life that I did sober or even baked. So it's kinda wild that ski areas aggressively encourage day drinking and binge drinking and people are just like "yeah that's normal"

It is really interesting I'll agree. I definitely drank way too much in college (as most of us do) and after I graduated I proceeded to increase the amount of nights per week that I was getting actually drunk and if I wasn't drunk I was still putting back 2-3 a night. I basically traded one habit for another once I went full time on the weed but man I'll agree that I did a lot of stupid fucking shit drunk. Have you ever seen stoned friends get into a heated friendship night-ending disaster? Yeah me neither.

Influence is plastered everywhere you look to drink this drink that drink while you're doing this risky activity, but seen as accepted. Rates of liver disease and associated issues are rising with my generation's increased use of alcohol and the bindge drinking culture. Nobody talks about that or how alcohol contributes to obesity or cancer.

I still drink on occasion (with a super low tolerance and no dependence) but it's very eye opening to see how engrained it is in society that people can't even have a fucking barbecue or celebrate a birthday or holiday without getting drunk. It was really sad that once I stopped going out to all the bars and getting plastered, I realized that my city actually kinda blows and it's not very fun unless you're single (babes everywhere) or getting drunk at bars. Now I hate it here and want to leave every minute of every day lol.

Last bit, I really don't enjoy skiing high. It's kinda difficult and I'll even get dizzy mid run. I'll get maybe a 4/10 but that's it and I still don't feel 100% to my skills until about an hour or two later.
 
14386395:HypeBeast said:
So I took a gander at this statement since I learned recently that caffeine has a much higher lethal dose than expected and I got to admit, I was surprised.

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So quite funny to say you're wrong, lmao.

Also anyone reading, your brain matures by 25 so if you really wanna avoid any permanent deficits then wait til 25. Although that's not entirely practical for most people so I vote at least 18, preferably 21.

I mean it’s entirely unknown for THC. That study is so old and he literally unconfirmed it.

I think the fact that people have died from caffeine overdose shows it’s got a lower lethal limit.
 
14386431:Coleg55 said:
I mean it’s entirely unknown for THC. That study is so old and he literally unconfirmed it.

I think the fact that people have died from caffeine overdose shows it’s got a lower lethal limit.

You're definitely right we don't definitively know the lethal dose but it exists just like there's a lethal dose for anything, even water. These are only very educated guesses. Most ingestions are with multiple drugs so of course if you take a couple grams of caffeine, while you're on antidepressants and antipsychotics and doing other stuff, it could certainly be enough to interact and push you over the edge and into cardiac arrest. I was just pointing out that side by side, here's what we have.

The second reference that lists the calculated amount of THC to be lethal was from 2003 but go on tell me the last time you heard of someone taking 4000mg of THC lol. There's only three ways to confirm toxicity (animal models, unethical studies, and people killing themselves) so maybe one day someone will show us. Eventually thc interferes with cardiac function, respiratory rate, and can even cause seizures but we've really only seen severe issues needing intubation in pediatrics; my guess is because they're smaller so the mg/kg is higher proportionally than if an adult dropped 1000mg. I bet if you took a couple thousand mg of THC you'd end up in pretty bad shape and spend a day or so in the hospital, maybe icu.

Also here's a case report and it "appears" Thc was the only med she was taking.

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Working backwards without any fancy math cuz I hate that shit, she took 1000mg at least (the report doesn't specify if 500ng/mL is the lab cutoff so maybe her level was higher). Nobody likes prolonged qtc.

It really kinda sucks the research is so limited on Thc but it will be interesting to see what comes out over the next 10-20 years. The effects on kids were definitely novel over the last decade in legal states.

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I think the jury is still out on our little debate. 1g of caffeine sure could fuck you up easier if you got other issues or interacting meds.

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Tldr: the browns are gonna do it next year. Next year is the year baby.
 
14385252:Nixx said:
Cool thing about weed is people say it’s not addictive and isn’t harmful when it’s the complete opposite. Your brain naturally produces cannabinoids to control your dopamine levels, when u smoke weed and get cannabinoids from an external source your brain decides that it doesn’t need to keep making them and relies on you to get them from an external source. If relied on too much your brain can forget how to produce cannabinoids, if u catch it early enough it takes 9 -15 months for your brain to start naturally producing them again, but that 9-15 months are hell and are super depressing. In some cases where it’s not caught until your brain is done developing your brain can permanently forget how to create them. Which sucks, you’ll have to be on meds for the rest of your life, and from personal experience the meds help alittle but don’t work as well as your brain normally does. Stay safe out there fellas

I totally agree. Especially if you are young, try to just smoke after you have completed your day. Doing so in my experience allowed me to still be alert and aware during the day when you need to learn in school/develop social skills, but you can still have fun and relax before you go to bed. Also, you may not be addicted to the chemical, like nicotine, but you can get addicted to the feeling of being high and that is the most dangerous part. Using weed to suppress your mental health issues can be good, but when self diagnosing, you can get stuck in a loop that only magnified your problem in the long run. Do your research and stay safe.
 
I fully agree. Always telling people they should wait till their 21 to smoke weed like the law says and just eat a bunch of acid till then.
 
We can blame snowboarders and tiktok for making drinking on the mountain MORE casual. But smoking a j or having a b at the lodge after a day of shredding is perfectly ok. Also id be more scared to ride with a drunk the ln a stoner.

14385748:WyattLoney said:
I smoke. You think weed culture is intertwined??? What about alcohol? Not y’all just don’t care since it’s so socially acceptable? Mixing a physically demanding sport with inebriation is a great idea and is probably why people run into trees.
 
14386640:Murslop said:
We can blame snowboarders and tiktok for making drinking on the mountain MORE casual. But smoking a j or having a b at the lodge after a day of shredding is perfectly ok. Also id be more scared to ride with a drunk the ln a stoner.

Pretty sure "casual"/heavy drinking on mountain was long before Tiktok bud
 
I have only smoked once and hated it but my brother started in college and he was one of the smartest quickest people I’ve met now he’s a sponge
 
Probably because skiing has a long standing status as the daycare that isn’t daycare, parents just dump their kids off at the hill so they can do “adult stuff” like probably banging the neighbor. Kids have all day to drink, do drugs, trouble free
 
I used to smoke like once a week because of my hs friends then fairly often when quarantine hit. I never noticed side effects from it as I mainly used it to watch a movie then sleep during lock down. But I watched all my homies smoke 2-3 times a day for the better part of 3 years. I saw them quickly grow dependant, and it was honestly annoying. Instead of making plans to do something enjoyable and worthwhile everything was centered on weed and if they could smoke wherever we were going. I havent smoked now in about 3 months and probably won't again. Now I have roommates who smoke all the time and I hate the smell more than ever.

It sucks watching people smoke themselves into depression and then smoke more to try and get out.

Also fuck all you stoners who offer pre-teens J's on chairlifts.
 
You’re the issue.

14386060:DeadB said:
LOL so what ur saying is that you are a pussy that can't handle a lil buzz? Me and the homies would make u look so pathetic and weak at a tail gate party. We will be crushing beers pounding them back and just chest slapping eachother while you sit in a corner with ur vintage handycam pointed at the ground, filming some ants.
 
I don’t drink. I don’t think people who do know what they’re doing. Instead of calling it drinking, let’s, for example, call it drug use. Now think about all the drug use you’ve been subjected to. Everyone is a drug addict to a fermented poison you can micro dose on. You’re telling me, as a parent, you’re more comfortable knowing your kid is out somewhere with a bunch of strangers, completely off their ass and in danger of drowning in their own vomit, rather than smoking weed in any capacity. I hardly feel safe on the roads in Montana because I can’t go to a gas station without seeing some middle aged man buy a tall boy while he fills up his truck. It’s truly awful and everyone is extremely desensitized to the matter.

14385760:Jpkelter said:
Now this is what we should really be talking about. Obviously, everyone can have their own opinion on weed in the ski industry, that is fine. But we can’t forget to talk about how alcohol is pushed on people in every facet of life, including the ski industry. Alcohol is ruining way more lives than weed but it is federally legal so it is not questioned. It is still a drug and probably the most abused drug in the world. Also abuse of alcohol is probably worse for you health wise than abuse of weed.
 
14387571:BearsOnKetamine said:
I have only smoked once and hated it but my brother started in college and he was one of the smartest quickest people I’ve met now he’s a sponge

did start in college...did NOT start as a 15 yr old
 
Saw your post and can totally relate. Weed was a big part of my teenage years too, especially with certain activities. Smoking 24/7 definitely isn’t healthy, especially when you're young. I also struggled with anxiety, depression, and lost motivation because of it. So, it’s good to see the current generation might be moving away from that.
 
14619549:Hanestoot said:
Saw your post and can totally relate. Weed was a big part of my teenage years too, especially with certain activities. Smoking 24/7 definitely isn’t healthy, especially when you're young. I also struggled with anxiety, depression, and lost motivation because of it. So, it’s good to see the current generation might be moving away from that.

Great first post. Unfortunately half the people in this thread have OD'd on weed and died by this point.

Also I saw a shirt today that said "I'm scared of smoking weed" Kinda slaps.
 
14619549:Hanestoot said:
Saw your post and can totally relate. Weed was a big part of my teenage years too, especially with certain activities. Smoking 24/7 definitely isn’t healthy, especially when you're young. I also struggled with anxiety, depression, and lost motivation because of it. So, it’s good to see the current generation might be moving away from that.

If you still enjoy weed but want to be more mindful about it, having a good setup helps. Using quality bubblers can really improve the experience without overdoing it.
 
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