Way to cut gas prices

garrett.

garrett.

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so i just saw the rocky bobby commercial and i was like, hey...nascar races have tons of cars that drive as fast as they can for like 5 hours.and my guess would be that they dotn get to good of gas mileage, so if they cancell every nascar and indy car and all races of that sort for a while i think the gas price would go down...just my take on things
 
uh huh. And if people stopped driving gas prices would go down too. I don't think nascar will make a difference.
 
dood u know i dig u and all but...

gas is an inelastic industry to a very large degree..meaning the prices wont drop unless something insanely drastic happens like 90% of drivers suddenly stop driving over night and never drive again.

war in the middle east has to end for this shit to drop again.
 
maybe if you crazy alaskans bought some cross country skis you wouldn't be wasting all our fuel on snowmobiles, ever thought of that?

eh?
 
dont nascar racecars use a different kind of fuel than regular cars. Then it wouldnt matter anyway and you'd just have a buttload of angry southerners
 
I think the biggest advantage that everyone is missing here is that we would get our speed channel back with motorsports that are actually legitimate and take skill...and the drivers aren't confederate flag waving billy joe bobs that can't even spell their names.
 
Auto racing in general maybe accounts for .01% of total gas consumption. The first step would be to convice the general public to drive less, second would be to purchase more economical automobiles. Stoping Nascar will not fix the problem.
 
Or you just dotn drive and sit on NS and talk about it so the gas peopel wioll loose money cause no one is buying
 
the war in the middle east doens't have to stop for prices to go down. You just need an increase in the supply of oil, which could be achieved by drilling in alaska, more drilling anywhere really, or a miracle to happen in the middle east. We don't have to depend on middle eastern oil. We have a ton of it.
 
because he's no good for driving in F1...he was aight, but not good enoguh...kinda like daMatta going F1 for a year or two and now he's back in Champ Cars (hitting deers)
 
stop, stop , stop nascar and indy car wouldnt have an effect on oil prices, they are a different type of gas or i shuold say grade normally 118 octane or better. but it is still refined from the same lite sweet crude oil.

with that said let me breack the oil situation down, there are two things at work here which are majorly effecting oil prices. first the futures market has pushed prices up do to futur concerns about the middle east. this has had an impact but is more related to the daily volitility in the oil prices. the steady ilong term incline in the price of oil ( from 20 dollars a barrel to 75 dollars a barrel) has a bit more to do with the econmic growth in india an china. that has changed the world wide demand. to break it down, the average person in the US consumes about 48 barrels of oil a year. and currently the average person in india consumes about 1 1/2 barrels of oil a year (up from 1/4 barrel a year 3 years ago) and in china the average person consumes 3 barrels a year (up from about 1 barrel a year 3 years ago). what you have to remeber is that is an average per person and the india and china together have liek 10 times the US population.

what does this mean? well every barral a person in india and china equal about 10 barrels per person equivalent in the US, so pretty shortly with continued growth in the indo-china region will me even greater demand on oil. and when the US no longer is the largest consumer of oil in the world the prices will rise even more dramaticlly because we will no longer controll the demand price stability.

i know that that was a mouthful. the information above was pulled from various sources( Ag edwards Commodities research, alliance bernstein asset managment china impact report, morgan stanley internation equity reasearch, and goldman sachs global reasearch) just so you all dont think i am pulling shit out my ass.
 
World gas prices, normalized to USD/USgal and displayed as a % of US Gas Price.

Country USD/USgal % of US Price

Norway (Oslo) $7.46 245%

United Kingdom $6.87 225%

Netherlands (Amsterdam) $6.48 212%

Italy (Rome) $6.48 212%

Denmark (Copenhagen) $5.93 194%

Belgium (Brussels) $5.91 194%

Japan $4.56 150%

India (Chandigarh) $4.12 135%

New Zealand $4.09 134%

Australia $4.01 131%

Canada $3.77 124%

United States $3.05 100%

Mexico (Mexico City) $2.30 75%

Malaysia (Kuala Lumpur) $2.01 66%

Saudi Arabia (Riyadh) $0.91 30%

Kuwait (Kuwait City) $0.78 26%

Egypt (Cairo) $0.65 21%

Nigeria (Lagos) $0.38 12%

Venezuela (Caracas) $0.12 4%
 
Country USD/USgal % of US Price

Norway (Oslo) $7.46 245%

United Kingdom $6.87 225%

Netherlands (Amsterdam) $6.48 212%

Italy (Rome) $6.48 212%

Denmark (Copenhagen) $5.93 194%

Belgium (Brussels) $5.91 194%

Japan $4.56 150%

India (Chandigarh) $4.12 135%

New Zealand $4.09 134%

Australia $4.01 131%

Canada $3.77 124%

United States $3.05 100%

Mexico (Mexico City) $2.30 75%

Malaysia (Kuala Lumpur) $2.01 66%

Saudi Arabia (Riyadh) $0.91 30%

Kuwait (Kuwait City) $0.78 26%

Egypt (Cairo) $0.65 21%

Nigeria (Lagos) $0.38 12%

Venezuela (Caracas) $0.12 4%

 
Do you guys have any clue as to how much oil is actually being used by Nascar drivers. Let's compare these guys to people on the road... Hmmm, they are only outnumbered by about 12,000,000 to one.
 
If you want oil prices to go down, there is one solution: DRILL, DRILL, AND DRILL SOME MORE. That's it. End of story. People will never willingly "drive less" than they do already. Not to mention it isn't just about the autos. Oil is everywhere. It is used in every production facility in the world. Just about everything you buy, own, or inherit, has a trace of oil to it.

The fact is, North America is sitting on a HUGE oil reserve, but nobody can get leases to drill anywhere. Why? We're "protecting our resources". And if we do try, some enviro-friendly "group" screams bloody murder. For example: Just recently SUWA (Southern Utah Wilderness Alliance), the Natural Resources Defense Counsil and the Wilderness Society, managed to get all the leases pulled on one of the biggest petroleum finds in the last 30 years (in the North America). This means the B.L.M.'s hands are tied, and the oil will never be realized because people like to camp in the desert.

Off-shore drilling possibilities are endless, but who wants to swim in the ocean with 60 oil platforms staring them in the face? Not to mention the environmental impact, and the fact it costs an average of $100 million USD just to get a rig set up.

This is evident everywhere. The middle east is sitting on an estimated 80-90% of the world's oil reserves (estimated, because that is the only region that will not release data to let everyone know exactly HOW MUCH they're sitting on). So until we can all agree on a viable solution as to where we can, and can't drill, barrel prices will continue to rise.

Western Australia and Southern Africa are currenltly experiencing a petroleum/natural gas boom, as well as parts of Eastern Europe. But again, the bureaucratic bullshit that encompasses oil exploration is slowing things to a crawl.

Personally, I doubt technology will ever catch up with the world's dependence on the black stuff. And to propose stopping Nascar (which I hate) or any race car, will make a difference, is an excercise in stupidity (no offense). FYI, the CART Indycar series runs on methonal, which gets .0000000000005 miles to the gallon.

So if you really want prices to come down, become a geophyisicist or geologist, and get out there and find some more oil. Until then, smile, remember that ignorance is bliss, and bring some astro-lube to the gas station with you, because you're going to continue to take it up the ass like the rest of us...

 
you are all a bunch of fucking idiots

Indycars run on a blend of 90 percent Methanol and 10 percent Ethanol

next year Indycars will be run on 100 percent ethanol...

Champcars run on methanol as well

Indycar/champcars have been using alternative fuel for over 30 years..blame nascar who still use lead based racing fuels
 
yea best wishes to christianol....the deer completely tore off the cars roll bar, he hit him going up turn 6 at road america which is a blind lefthander taken at about 160 mph
 
ethanol is produced by using crops, which, in turn are fertilized and processed using fossil fuels. theres no escaping oil, besides the electric car, and its already been killed. using ethanol and methanol are better for the environment in terms of pollution, but the damage doen refining and growing the compnents of both do equal damage. we might as well just use gas.
 
Ethanol is put in gasoline as an octane booster, and it takes more petroleum to produce the ethanol that boosts octane than it does to boost octane by distillation (the typical way). I am all for high gas prices; maybe if they shoot up people will realize that there's a problem on this planet and they should do stuff to fix it.
 
yea i was thinking that we should have a worldwide day where no one drives and if they have to they car pool then the gas companies would have no demand therefore making them cut the prices a lot the next day
 
It's just a different octane, still gasoline. As for the countries with cheap gas, they probably use leaded gas still because their pollution laws aren't so strict. Or they have oil and refineries within their country.
 
nascar is stil on primitive leaded gasoline, but they might change it because some crew member are starting to degenertive diseases due to leaded gas over exposure, most notably Team Penske crew members
 
and cancell nascar because its pointless...and im about as far away fomr the south as u can get so i dont give a shit
 
but they are also people on the road. they don't just drive their racecar everywhere like to the supermarket and to the movies.they consume gas like everyone else and then some with their race whips.
 
considering how desolate the areas, and how unimportant some of them are, its really not that big of a deal.

oh, and for the prices in other countries, you also need ot take into account that other countries tax gasoline differently.
 
YES!!! I have been brainwashed by left hand turns because of NASCAR, I don't even watch SPEED anymore.

But as for drilling more oil wells, I am against that. Drilling more would only temporarily relieve some strain on a problem that would become permanent. Instead of ruining more wilderness/ocean/etc in order to save a few bucks at the pump we should focus more effort into finding an alternative source of energy. I know it's kind of a "perfect world" solution to the problem, but there really is no other way.
 
drilling in alaska would be in a part of ANWAR not inhabited by any endangered species, would be extremely eco conscious and would take up less than 1% of total area in ANWAR while alleviating a HUGE need for OIL...this would be huge if it would pass
 
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